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Did this on ChatGPT as an homage to the Leicestershire county flag.

The six points didn't relegate us. When it mattered, the players folded. When things went against them, they didn't step up when teams around them did. If it went down to the final game against Blackburn with both teams' Championship status on the line, what would have happened when Blackburn scored, at any point in the game, either taking the lead, equalising, or pulling one back to reduce a deficit? Our players didn't perform when they needed to. Three points in a dead rubber doesn't alter what would have almost certainly happened anyway. As much as the club is responsible for the financial sh!tshow that gave us a points deduction and made the players' and coaches' jobs more difficult, the players reacted to every setback they suffered last season negatively. With one or two exceptions, it's the culture of this team that relegated us.

We're due a white away. And a proper yellow kit as well

I did type that initially but for some reason autocorrect changed it and I didn't notice

First-team debut for Kevon Gray today? Really hope the guys upstairs understand the importance of keeping these lads and recruiting a manager who will actually develop them and build a team around them

Ricky is the best RB I've ever seen play for us. He was imperious at times. That goal against Everton was everything he could be, and it came from the wrong side and with his weaker foot! His injuries have cost him dearly, but, in a rare bit of praise for them at the moment, I'm proud of the club for sticking with him during a rough period for him and happy for him that he could contribute positively afterwards. The season under Maresca, where Enzo could find a role that suited him AND kept him fit for a whole season when he had previously broken down so many times in his recovery, he was nothing short of sensational. Back at RB in the PL, it was clear he was lacking the attributes to be a good full-back at that level but we kept on and on into this season where unfortunately he's gone backwards again. In terms of ability and physicality he hasn't been good enough for two seasons, but managers have kept picking him and it isn't his fault he was persisted with as captain. Good managers should have recognised these things, used Aluko more (possibly Choudhury more too) and given the armband to a more natural leader or, like they often do on the continent, our best player to lead by example and raise the team through individual performances. In both categories, that probably would have been Jordan James this season. During his injuries, I genuinely don't know from column A and from column B, probably Fatawu. Which points the finger at our various managers and the club for not factoring personality into player recruitment (or doing it badly). It's a real shame it has ended this way for Ricardo. If not for injuries, he would have left a long time ago. I'm glad he stayed as he was initially good when he came back properly but we've also spent a lot of money on him while he's been injured or not good enough, which must have contributed to the position we're currently in. He's a top bloke, though, and should have won more caps for Portugal and played for one of the real big boys like Barcelona or Real Madrid. If we sort out this mess and put it behind us, I think we - as a fan base - will largely look back on Ricky's time with us with extreme fondness tinged with a little sadness.

The chance to rebuild a club and take it back to where it belongs will be an attraction to somebody. Whether it's someone who could qualify for the Europa League or even the Champions League, I doubt it but stranger things have happened. We probably wouldn't be trying if we hadn't have had some sort of encouraging sign from either the bloke himself or his agent. What's a little worrying is that to tempt somebody like that to take a chance on us at our respective stages, he'll need a pay rise, which means either we're not learning our lesson money-wise or he's on next to nothing in his current role. Or both.

Somebody close to Top - his mother, brother or wife, maybe, because it certainly won't be Jon Rudkin biting the hand that feeds him - takes Top aside and tells him the best thing he can do to preserve his father's legacy, now, is to hand over the reins to someone else. Whether that's selling the club or firing Rudkin and appointing competent board members with a track record of running a club well, it doesn't matter. Otherwise I do fear it will be out of existence and then back as a phoenix club, having to rise from the Northern Premier League Midlands or lower.

Keep Page and Aluko at all costs

Get Aluko on now. Choudhury absolute pony

I came on to post similar sentiments. Fvck you, Sky.

Having watched the Welcome to Wrexham documentary, I'm sure they said kits are sorted about a year in advance, which is why they were sweating on promotion as they'd already splashed money on a black kit when the National League didn't allow one, so would have poured money down they drain had they not gone up

Knowing our luck it'd end up being Kanye West

One thing to add is Marinakis supposedly relinquishing control of Forest again in case they win the Europa League and qualify for the Champions League, allowing both them and Olympiakos to both compete in the tournament if that eventuality occurs. Regardless of whether what he's done complies with the laws of the game, if he can repeatedly make remove and reinstall himself into a position of control, surely that proves he's the man in charge all along?

Knowing that 45 minutes of hard work, effort and fight was in this group all along, but they chose to show it when it was far too late, is probably even more galling than if they'd have just chucked in the towel like they did in most games this season and the one before.

Long, long way to go yet mate

About 5 or 6 games too late but I'll take two minutes of ecstasy right now

I don't blame you one bit. I'd checked out too but now it's match day I'm optimistic again. I don't know why I do it to myself

Fair point However. My thinking was that although we're 99% certain to go down, we can still mathematically survive. James is our best player and Ramsey looked like he was getting up to speed before his injury. Having both involved gives us a much better chance than playing, say, Winks, Choudhury or Aribo. Take it to tomorrow rather than confirming it tonight and then who knows?

James starting and Ramsey on the bench are definite positives. Aluko, Page and Otchere need to be in the squad for me. Probably Hutchinson too.

I think we should have kept him. Some of the players may not have been having him but most of them have downed tools under Cooper, RVN, Marti and now Rowett. Easy to say in hindsight, but I think sacking Marti gave the players too much knowledge of the power they hold. Keep Marti, let him keep Winks out of the side, use Page and Aluko more often, and let the players know that Marti has the backing of the board, and we may have seen more fight. We'd still be frothing at the mouth for him to go at the end of the season after all our inconsistency and lacklustre performances with him, but I do believe we would have survived and at least postponed the potential winding up of our club by another season (or hopefully reversed it). As it stands, we're a season or two from not having a club to support anymore. And before anyone suggests it, I really don't want to support Market Harborough, Coalville, Hinckley, Oadby, or whoever else. If it comes to it, I'll support whatever continuity club comes after Leicester City, whatever division they're in, but I'd rather we stayed up and rebuilt from the Championship instead of staring into the abyss as we'll do so from potentially tomorrow night.

Stolarczyk Aluko Nelson Gray New LB Page Braybrooke Hutchinson Alves Monga Otchere Give us our club back

If we don't go back up and can't afford to run it because the costs outweigh our income from L1 (apparently not relevant next season because we'll still have parachute payments regardless of division), then we're done aren't we? The only solution I can see is that we sell to a lender such as Macquarie and lease it back. The income from the sale should sustain the running of the facility for a few seasons until such time that we can buy it again. (Was it approx £20m running costs that bloke on that podcast mentioned? Plus rent payable to the buyer.) But how long does that actually give us to get out of L1. Three years, four years, maybe. Very risky considering the trajectory we're on and the wholesale changes to playing and coaching staff that are surely coming.

Truly deserving to go down even without the points deduction. A horrible, gutless, cowardly group of players. I think the only one who doesn't come out of this with his reputation tarnished is Ricardo. His legs have clearly gone, he's had multiple long-term injuries, but he keeps showing up and being asked to play a role he can no longer do.

Kasper managed it. Simpson managed it. I just think it's one of those situations where you realise players are human and that he didn't actually need to stay at the training ground. Doesn't matter how nice the place his, he wanted to be at home with his wife and kid. Seemed a bit like RVN trying to throw his weight around to me. But, as I say, the other stuff does not cast him in a good light at all. Throwing a wobbly because he loves Enzo and doesn't want to be here anymore. His performances, with very few exceptions, showed how much he couldn't be bothered. He was stuck here, but as a professional under contract he needed to give more on the pitch. And he isn't the only one of our players guilty of that.