Miella27

It’s so worrying how bad we are. Our team that got promoted was a weak Premier League side, but from that team the folllowing players won’t be playing tomorrow; Hermanson, Ricardo, Vestergaard, Dewsbury-Hall, Winks, Fatawu, Mavididi How many players playing tomorrow do we have that are as good as, or better than any of these? El Khannous - that’s about it.

I think West Ham and Everton changing managers brings them back into it. I firmly believe that Dyche would have kept Everton up, I wouldn't have Moyes down as a quick fix manager and could see them getting sucked into it. Also without Antonio, Bowen and a new manager, it could go either way for West Ham. I'm not saying we'll definitely stay up, but i think this helps us. Wednesday is huge for us, it could really kick-start our season. We've got winnable games coming up and lots of teams around us are earlier in their transition than us (Wolves, Soton, WHU, Everton). We must make it count

Vards hardly ever plays on Boxing Day. I think he's started 1 out of the last 5. Purely speculation, but I suspect there's an agreement in place. When he went down in the last 5 v Wolves, I thought this would happen... (or he could just be injured again at Christmas!)

Our squad is as weak as it has been for 10+ years, however there's enough there to make it competitive. We've just got to be better than the teams around us, who are all equally rubbish - Soton, Ipswich, Palace, wolves, Everton I think these players would play a significant part in the squad of 10-12 prem teams - Mads, Okoli, Buonanotte, Fatawu These players would be in and around the matchday team/squad of the bottom six sides - Vardy, Ricardo, Vestergaard, Coady, Winks, Skipp, Ndidi, Mavididi, That's enough to make a go of it, we just need someone to give them a bit of structure, confidence and hope.

Danny Ward has just kept a clean sheet and saved 3 penalties! That is absolutely mind boggling. Stranger than fiction!

I was of the opinion that Cooper was a good appointment and we would at least be competitive. However, I watched the full game today and it is difficult to express how poor we were without sounding hysterical and dramatising it. We simply couldn't make 2 passes unless Madds was one of those passes. We couldn't get out of our own defensive third, let alone our own half. I am also concerned by Cooper coming out and telling everyone we need new players. Yes, we do, but it screams of Rodgers and refusing to take responsibility for the job. He signed up for it, we all know where we are, but alienating the only people that can get us moving is the wrong way of going about it. A very bad day today, let's hope it galvanises us to scrap for every ball next week, because I don't think we can rely on our quality on the pitch to stay up.

Undoubtedly, it is going to be a very tough season; however, are we going to be any worse than the year we came down, even with a 4-6 point deduction? Whilst we had far more able players in Madison, Barnes, Tielemans etc, there was a huge question mark over their application and efforts over the season. Coupled with Ward, Amartey, Thomas and Soumare playing most weeks, surely we are in a slightly better position than then. We also don't have a manager in charge with the hump and imo, playing for a pay-off. Faes was probably our key centre back that year, we would have loved to have Coady and to have signed a young and keen centre back. Yes, it'll be tough but bring in a No.10 and/or a striker and we're well in the mix. I predict we'll keep our heads above water and float around 13th-17th place

Wowzers, I know everyone's got an opinion, but if we're going into the Prem with JJ, Kristenson and Vesty at the back with Hamza protecting them, it's going to be a long season 🤢

Steve Cooper for me. He did a great job within the England Youth set-up, and would probably still have enough contact with England to persuade young players aged 18-23 with something to prove to join. He did a great job at Forest. Bottom of the Champ when he joined, they're certainly no better off without him. He also had to mould a team out of 25 new players when they went up, many of whom he didn't want. Not too dissimilar to what he'd need to do here. With his coaching expertise, he has the set up here to really make a difference. It would really annoy Forest as well if he came here and was a success.

Gary Megson was poached by Bolton.

He should be hailed as one of our greatest ever managers for winning the Cup and the 5th placed finishes, I felt all year he was playing for the sack. Top Premier League managers don't play Ward, Thomas, Amartey etc and expect to pick up results, he knew exactly what he was doing.

They may have played more than once, but these spring to mind from the late 80s/90s: Steve Holden Pat O'Toole Pat Gavin David Puttnam Grant Brown Jon Stevenson Paul Bedder - did he make the bench once, but didn't get on.

He's been great so far, but today I felt he got it wrong. I was sure he would have taken Casedei off at half-time and bought Choudhery or even Praet on, just someone either a little more defensive or more experienced. They could have tucked in and broke from the right, and we'd still have had an outlet with Mavididi. As it was, we didn't offer any threat after h/t. Disappointing, but it's only one game.

I'd imagine you are trolling, either that or you have no idea about the FA/league rules at each of these periods you refer to.

Yeah, I know but it's still a business and if we were to implode this season, an extra £5-10 million could be a lifesaver. We've got to insure ourselves against not going up and the parachute payments drifting away.