Tom12345

So essentially poor decisions from 2021-22 costed us.

Absolutely, from prime position. It was so fixable too at the time but Rodgers was too stubborn and too risk averse. The club gambled but trusted the wrong guy. Another key factor was losing Fofana at the beginning of 2021/22 (?) in that pointless pre season friendly. I thought we genuinely looked like a champion contender with Fofana and the players we had. After he was injured, we panicked bought Vesty (but then never used) and later Faes (leaking goals) and Souttar (never used), wasted millions and we started to leak goals left right and center. We still have those three players on our books.

I guess if you asked me 10 years ago if I would prefer to be CHAMPIONS one season in exchange for 10 years of downward spiral, I would have taken it. The memory shall be treasured forever.

Sorry, this is not about new CBs signed. But we ought to try Okoli and Coady now as the CB pairing. They can’t do worst. Faes is prone to make mistakes game after game and constantly out of position resulting in the need to chase. Vesty is way too slow and also often out of position. The two of them don’t complement each other. Justin has to be dropped. Yes he does pop forward but he is contributing to a lot of our conceded goals this season. Fix the defence first with what we have to give ourselves even a chance at getting something from each game.

… yeah, they were really shocking that the only way to make sense of these mistakes is that they were intentional I guess, you are right

2 years ago, our squad did not deserve to be relegated, but the seeds were there with Rodgers and Faes. 2 years later, our team is genuinely shxt and we still have Faes. Vesty, although I like him more after last season, is still way too slow and positionally crap to be a PL defender. He was at Southampton when we beat them 9-0. Can’t run and gets turned too easily. He was responsible for the first two goals for standing outside of the Everton forward. Our problem is that we spent millions on a defence that is so poor. Added Justin who can’t defend. There is a reason why Cooper chose to focus on one winger and play on one side of the pitch because at least we can have a better defence. We can’t play too open like RVN as it is being shown to be the case in hindsight especially without the wingers to do it.

Our problem starts with a leaky defence, from the time Rodgers spent millions on Vesty (and even he didn’t use him) and Faes (he has been consistently leaky). Okoli and Coady can’t be worst. I like Vesty as a ball player, but he needs to be partnered with someone like Morgan or Evans, not leaky and positionally unaware Faes.

See ya. i am off

Disgusted. How shxt can we be? As predicted last week after we beat Spurs, we won’t be Everton. But 3-0???!

Why is Faes a few yards behind and Vesty is not Premier League level.

What an absolute embarrassment! We need a completely new back four. Faes, Vesty and Justin have no bloody idea. RVN is no better than Cooper. No attacking threat. What a fuxking disaster of a match.

This is embarrassing so far.

What the hell happened? I am late to the game and 2-0 already after 2 shots on goal from Everton?

Turnover from Everton. Pass to Vardy with only one man in front. Why the hell did he pass it back? Weak.

This will be a tougher game against Spurs. Spurs have traditionally destroyed us in terms of our scoring us, but they are always vulnerable in terms of defense. We could carve them open especially this time because of the number of players they missed. Everton is a different proposition. They are harder for us to break down. We find it hard to break down teams sitting back. But this is massive for us. If we can get a result, we can start looking to sustain a period of floating just above water.

Unfair comment I think. Soumare has always shown signs of his brilliance since he joined us, but he was not allowed to grow with people very quickly getting on his back. He has a much higher ceiling than many in the squad.

With Everton pulling away, there is only one other candidate we can chase : Wolves. Not looking good.

No, you are right, I wasn’t pro-Cooper too (I was though asking for more time for Cooper to let him sort things out though). Perhaps a bit overdone with my comment, which I admit, as I am a bit drunk in my disappointment at losing 7 in a row … Dont get me wrong though, I am not asking for change now to RVN. I think we just need stability there and we need to keep supporting them.

Yeah, it is sad it seems like only they cared. Maybe Winks and Vardy too. Very impressed with Bilal and Soumare. They worked their socks off, but the rest just couldn’t cope.

Before RVN, we looked like a good mid table side not winning as much as we should have (individual mistakes costed us quite a few points). But fans wanted Cooper gone, and encouraged a toxic atmosphere. With FFP, we had to be careful what we wished for. When we were around 16, I thought we can do better hence I admit to having some frustration in my mind. But now we just look like a clueless Championship side.

Can’t believe fans are writing him off. He doesn’t play left winger.

Agree. But the no. 1 culprit is Justin, again. How many crosses has he allowed this game, and every game? He really can’t defend. What happened to the Justin we know from the time he was playing LB for us years ago.

No, before the cross. Justin should have closed down on the cross.

This is 100% Justin!! Stood too far back, ONCE again, from the crosser! I was cursing him before the cross!

WtF? Why are we talking off our best player????? Bilal was defending and creating? WtF?