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I'm not sure this is moaning for the sake of moaning. Some on here buy shirts and wear them, and some don't. Personally, I wear shirts to games, occasionally out and about, but I play football once a week, and wear football shirts for that. The sponsor is a big part of the shirt, and wearing the shirt is helping to advertise that brand. I loved having a local company like Walkers on the shirt & I wore it with pride. Last Monday I wore an Alliance + Leicester shirt: no longer around, but a Leicester company. I don't have much affinity with King Power, but it is tied to the club through owners, stadium name, funding etc. & is part of out history, so feels very much affiliated to the club & I'm happy enough with that. But rather than affinity, I actively can't stand companies like FBS and BC.Game which shouldn't really even be legal, and I don't want to help advertise. I'm not saying I'd never but a shirt with that on, but didn't buy any FBS and it would take a really nice shirt (or a green & yellow pinstripes one) for me to do so. So from a financial point of view, I want the club to maximise income, but from a perspective of them releasing a good shirt that I'd buy - this choice of sponsor makes that very difficult, so I think a good moan is the right response here!

Glad I stocked up on last year's black away kit and retro offerings...

It really is impressive what this site is, and just don't think it can he underestimated how much effort it is to admin and moderate a site - let alone do it for 20 years. I probably mangaged about 4 months with The Snug Fox back in the day and that was enough! So a big thank you, as I have found a home here (often in the Safe House) as well as hundreds of others and it is only here because of the work you put in.

So, if they immediately sell him back to us for £30m, we get £30m income and only £6m amortisation? Stroke of genius from Rudkin and 2 fingers up to the PSR rules!!!

That made me laugh. Went to Cambridge City's ground a couple of times, but it was demolished in 2013 after they were priced out. It certainly helps to focus the mind building a new stadium when you don't have one... So I'm not sure we should be following their example when they have been homeless for 11 years!

Think the division needs expanding to 21 teams. Man Utd Man Utd 'B' team Man Utd 'C' team Man City Man City 'B' team Man City 'C' team Liverpool Liverpool 'B' team Liverpool 'C' team Chelsea Chelsea 'B' team Chelsea 'C' team Arsenal Arsenal 'B' team Arsenal 'C' team Spurs Spurs 'B' team Spurs 'C' team Sir Jim Ratcliffe doesn't have an account on here, so I've done it for him. And yes, he did read the caveat but decided his views were more important than yours.

Historically, the English game has been very open with any club able to compete. There has been no historic big 6 - it is a recent term. The real change came with the Champions League and its distribution of wealth, and suddenly 4 clubs (Man Utd, Arsenal, Chelsea & Liverpool) could get buckloads more money every year making them more likely to qualfy, and winners from outside that group disappeared. Man City have then blasted everyone out the water with their resources (and clever use of them), so the race for those 4 spots has become exiting, as us, Spurs, Newcastle and Villa have broken in. But actual winners? Just 5 clubs (and us) since Blackburn 28 years ago. It is so depressing that rather than sharing Champions League revenues with the whole league that puts forward the representatives, they have gone to the FFP to hard code in that non-level playing field, and for the first time put in rules to unbalance the level playing field by saying sone clubs can spend more than others. The fact that nobody (other than Villa) has challenged this imbalance has now meant it is accepted, and so this shameless call to imbalance the league even more. Would love to see the other 14 clubs (including Newcastle?) use this as a rallying call to band together and starting to vote through measures to help go back to the days of balance. English football would be a lot better for it.

Awful cash grab. I think its a great opportunity to be like the third jersey in hockey: something with a bit of a different logo, which pushes boundaries and expands the brand, but is still recognisable. (I think of Calgary's flaming horse alternate logo which was a fun 3rd shirt, but still the Flames). I quite liked the Giants, as it was orange and white but bought in the fog & the bridge from the City. Cleveland felt a safe with the colours, but I really liked the different typeface on the jersey - but it needed the C to match on the cap! Texas was red and blue (very navy) and jumped out as quite classy. I also liked KC and the Angels with my favourite out of the bunch was probably the White Sox. But so many teams went too far away from their brand, were illegible from a distance, had awful black pants, area codes, and silly 3 letter abbreviations on the shirt. Boston in yellow? That Mets thing in grey and bits of purple? San Diego just hurt my eyeballs. Some of this years like Detroits just look like nobody could be bothered. The 2nd wave has now begun with the Dodgers non-event now being replaced by an terrible kids polkadot thing with half the numbers missing. I get I'm not the target marketplace, there is a long way to go before they get to the NBA ridiculousness and the NFL have now started on City Connects as well (teams now allowed 3 helmet shells & we've had Indy nights, Houston's H-Town & the Minnesota White-out all which are all clearly the first wave of them) so this is the way the Uni-verse is headed. But it all feels short-term and disposable and most of it is awful design. I can't see the Astros breaking out a retro "Space City" jersey in a few years harking back to this look in the way Calgary have been revisiting the flaming horse recently. At least the program is intended for teams to change every 3 years: really hope this doesn't shift to an annual thing, as there aren't enough ideas as it is!

Not sure how many on here subscribe to The Athletic, but a very good article on there about Cooper - by the Forest beat writer - but it shines through what a great job he did there and how much affection there is for him. Key takeaways from me were how he went up playing an possession based game, but found it didn't work in the Premier League with his players (4-0 at Leicester being the nadir) so adapted to a more pragmatic style. The fact that since he left Forest, he's thrown himself into more study of tactics wacthing games across the country and Europe has shiwn he wants to learn and isn't just coming to roll out the same thing he did at Forest last year. And that he has been approached by 6 or 7 Championship clubs, but has waited for the right opportunity. He is not an unwanted manager on the scrapheap. It is very difficult to reconcile that article with the views, stereotypes and negativity on here about Cooper. We honestly might have found the perfect fit as the biggest fear was Enzo's style wouldn't work. Cooper has been there and bought the T-shirt. And neither of the other candidates were perfect fits. Potter might have been too Rodgers in wanting everything to he done his way or else, and Corberon might have been too Enzo: leaving West Brom after less than 2 years to climb the ladder left me thinking he would not hesitate to do the same to us if successful.

It brings to a close 336 pages of utter nonsense in the Managerial Replacements thread.

Always liked what Cooper has done - England, play-offs, promotions, keeping a newly promoted team up. It was only last season that some of the shine started to come off a Forest seemed to be going backwards, but recency bias aside, he has a good CV, so I was happy enough when they narrowed in on him straight away. But back then, I was thinking Potter was out of reach: I think Potter was the man who could take us on as a project and adapt Enzo's work and get us challenging the rich 6/7 again within a couple of years, so having got really excited 2 days ago, this appointment now just feels like a let down. I just hope Potter goes to England or a club abroad and we don't have to watch him succeed at another Premier League club.

This game is making me yearn for Maresca tactics. This "get it forward" tactic is not working and losing possession and is actually more difficult to watch...

Since the big announcement on page 1 that the plans were up, we've had 93 pages and over 2.5 years and still no news about a potential start date for the work. I get things move slowly in the planning world, but this shows the club do not have either the ability or the desire to get this done.

OK - I stand corrected - I did look at the squad list https://www.uefa.com/euro2024/teams/35--denmark/squad/ & my eyes must have glanced over him! Remains to be seen if he is in the Leicester squad for next year though...

So 1 day after I asked the question, it was nice of the BBC to come out with a club by club list for all Premier League clubs (yes - we are now Premier League again!): https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c10303qy2ydo It lists for us: Yunus Akgun - Turkey Wout Faes - Belgium Mads Hermansen - Denmark Jannik Vestergaard - Denmark So Kristiansen hasn't actually made the Denmark squad, and with Akgun no longer out player, it is just the 3. Mind you - we've not an outlier: Ipswich (0), Forest (2), Bournemouth (3), Everton (3), Fulham (3), Southampton (3) & Wolves (3) mean we are one of 8 teams with less than 4. (At the other end of the spectrum is Man City with 13 players - that's what FFP rules will do for a fair balance...)

Worse than I thought... Akgun has already left and Kristiansen has been conspicuous by his absence. Presuming Hermansen doesn't start over Schmeichel, that would leave us being represented by just the dynamic duo: our centre back pairing of Faes and Vertergaard... The Bodyguard Duo!!!

Not sure if its a post for this thread or should be a separate topic within the Euro 2024 section, but have we got a list anywhere of all the Leicester players playing at the Euros (or in squads)? Feels like a sign of where we are at the moment that we are discussing Danny Ward and Tom Cannon in this thread: neither of whose teams qualified. Its not long ago we could tune into a lot of games with some interest from a Leicester point of view.

As frustrating as this is, need to remember the timetable. A lot of the football calendar and contracts run to the end of June. Our players are released at the end of June & its been mentioned on here that Enzo is still contracted until the end of June. Players usually report back to clubs right at the end of June or start of July. We are not alone in not having a manager on 12th June. Brighton haven't got a manager, Man Utd only confirmed theirs yesterday, and last year, Maresca was appointed 16th June & Farke at Leeds was 4th July. We look at this as football fans looking at what we know of manager's records from their previous clubs and base our decisions purely on that and think it should be relatively easy to decide based on that. But there is far more to it: particularly given what we have seen with Enzo: Potter is my preference - and I think that having jumped to a big money club once and got burnt, he's far more likely to commit long term to a club of our size. I like the idea of Corberan, but if he leaves West Brom for us, then it would show me that he is more keen on going up the ladder than building at a club and he would do the same to us when another big club come calling - but you can only gauge that by asking questions directly. I would imagine the club will have a process and a timetable: they will have worked through a process of obtaining CVs, headhunting some candidates - then reviewing CVs, having initial interviews (you would hope the club would have talked to at least 7 or 8 potential candidates) - whittling down to 2 or 3 candidates and having 2nd or 3rd interviews, with a timetable of 2-3 weeks for all this to take place. The media or fans may get a sniff of one of these interviews taking place and jump to conclusions, but its just guessing what stage they would be at. I'd rather the club take their time and make the right appointment, and to my mind we are still in the right timetable for them to be doing so. I'd have been more worried if we had made a knee-jerk announcement within a couple of days. So the time to worry for me will be if we get to the end of June without a manager, but looking from the outside, we are probably where we should be at this point in the process if it being run right with it likely down to 2 or 3 and feeling like discussions are being held with a preferred candidate (which recent posts seem to suggest is Potter). Keep the faith people! (Sorry - too much rational thought for this thread)

Potter is now favourite??? Could be a magical ridge... time to add another level to the bus!!!

What were the games like? I haven't had the chance to get to any yet (I have a soft spot for the Mets, so would have loved to get there this year) - but I know people who have been to other series and always sounds like a good day out.

@KingsX How's Cleveland baseball these days??? An extract from the Athletic talking about Stephen Vogt's start... He replaced a legend in Cleveland and a future Hall of Famer, Terry Francona. Should we compare them? Aw, what the heck. Sure, we should. Seasons Francona managed in the big leagues — 23 Seasons his teams started off 40-20 — zero Seasons Vogt has managed in the big leagues — one Seasons his teams started off 40-20 — one Is it only me who finds that incredible? Francona won two World Series, lost a third in a Game 7 and won three Manager of the Year awards. But the best 60-game start by any of his teams was 39-21, by Coco Crisp’s 2007 Red Sox. Francona’s best start in Cleveland was 35-25, by the 2020 team whose pandemic season consisted of just those 60 games. Not too shabby!

I could never work him out... Awful control and composure - a terrible footballer. But then out of nowhere would have a sublime touch, and some brilliant finishes. But then, so many of his goals came off his shin or bounced off him or were miskicks. But a strikers job is to be in the right place at the right time, and he did have that knack. I couldn't believe he'd scored 61 goals for us. But look at the breakdown: League - 173 appearances & 35 goals. Other - 59 appearances & 26 goals. Whether it was weaker opposition, too many substitute appearances in the league, or just plain luck, he could do it in the cups but he never convinced week in, week out. Genuinely interested to see where his career goes. I really would be shocked if we look back this time next year and he's played more games than not for his new team and scored more than 12 goals. But then again...

I genuinely think they won't. Likely you just want to believe the 100 anti-Cooper posts you have written aren't a waste of yours and everybody else's time!

I wrote this when we had the poor run under Maresca and the forum was filled with comments calling for his head: "I joined Foxestalk in May '18 so we are now on our third manager since I've been here: Claude Puel - Awful manager. Boring, sideways. Not good enough for us. Didn't sack him quick enough. Brendan Rodgers - Poison Dwarf. Fraud. Clueless. Bottlejob. Not good enough for us. Didn't sack him quick enough. Enzo Maresca - Boring. I told you he was a shit appointment. Not good enough for us. Needs to go regardless of whether we go up. There seems to regularly be a race to the bottom to see who can slag off the manager first and threads like this where everyone piles in to make sure it is recorded that they said the manager was c**p before things really go wrong and they are sacked." I think people are outdoing themselves on this thread - so much abuse for Cooper/Moyes/Potter even before any appointment has been made. Particularly the bile towards Cooper ("Cooper isn't good enough for us", there will be a big disconnect with the fanbase if we appoint him). Why can't people just get behind the manager whoever it is?

With Cooper currently the bookies' favourite (whatever that means) - I've done a bit of research (Yes - I've looked at his Wikipedia page): - Son of Keith Cooper - the referee! - One of the youngest coaches to get his UEFA Pro Licence, he started in Liverpool's youth teams, overseeing the likes of Sterling and Alexander-Arnold - Went to England setup - got different teams into latter stages of big tournaments: and his under 17 team only went and won the World Cup. - His club career is 4 and a bit seasons: Season 1 - got Swansea to Championship Play-Offs Season 2 - got Swansea to Championship Play-Off Final Season 3 - got F****t from bottom place to promotion (and had a good cup run) Season 4 - against the odds, kept F****t up (against more established Premier League teams ) - and the last season has shown how difficult keeping a newly promoted team up can be Season 5 - sacked with the club 5 points above the relegation places So he has a bloody good track record of success and working with young players, and if you look past his F****t connections, his name, his appearance and the perception of him not wanting to play possession football, you can see that this could be a very good appointment.