Golden Fox

Thought this was going to be another silly brain game, but couldn't resist once I'd clicked on!

Feel this is the most likely explanation. McCarron has come in, worked with our setup for a few months and seen its not working and not what he (or Enzo) would have expected coming from Man City, so has told thd board this is a position we are missing. Probably be equivalent to the wages of a reserve goalkeeper and might add far more value.

If you hate that, just go all in with "Bang Bang Niner Gang" (5-0, but I'm getting Deja Vu of last season, where they battled through injuries, had a good road win in Seattle early (with Seattle 3-2), and then it all fell apart at the business end of the year, so not remotely getting carried away)

What we need you lot to do is come down here and show us how to protest. We need Martin sneaking out the back door as he's too scared to face the fans. FFS, if Rangers had lost at home to Burton, Oxford and Peterborough in the space of 4 home games, their fans wouldn't be moaning on a forum, they'd be outside his house with pitchforks...

What about Bradford Park Avenue? Pre-WW1, they were a top flight club and had bigger attendance than us... Until they folded completely. (the recent blip is a phoenix club that gets less than 500 people)

A good afternoon at the football in League One... Got tickets from work for Cambridge v Blackpool, so took my lad this afternoon. A thumping game. Nobody had a second in possession without getting clattered. A red card after 6 minutes. Plenty of direct football with ball after ball belted into the box and goalmouth scrambles. A winner in the last 10 minutes, with one side in raptures and the other flat out on their backs destroyed. And no sideways passes until you are in the opposition half. I didn't watch our performance today (obviously), but football at this level is different. It's raw and you need to fight, and from the updates and peek at the match thread, it so apparent our club, our manager and our players haven't woken up to where we are, and we need this idiot out and a manager in who does get it ASAP.

I can see it in a year's time after Martin is poached by Chelsea: McCarthy will he the one in the nightclub holding up the "Russ I Miss You" sign. (Either that, or Martin will be out of work and McCathy will be taking home a nice fat wage from Leicester while not playing at all...)

Something familiar about that design. Just can't place it...

I'm quite tempted by that... they are wearing it on Saturday and work have given me free tickets fir the game. Will be good to forget about Leicester for day and watch a higher standard of football.

Just read an interesting article about Antonio Conte in the Athletic. The guy has succeeded pretty much everywhere he has coached, but it didn't work out for him at Spurs: I think he has just nailed our last 4 or 5 years there.

I'd imagine its that, but also due to price, as NFL keeps increasing the tickets, and due to people having their own teams to support and just aren't interested in teams like the Colts and Commanders. I went to a couple of the early games as a neutral, then the 2 49ers games, but probably won't go back until the Niners are back. Although if we get our own team, I think you'd see season tickets snapped up, and very few spare seats.

Yes - and although I appreciate he wasn't talking about that season's expenditure exactly, he is using that article to link that dodgy deal to our "miracle" so it amounts to the same thing. And the more I reflect on it, the more the whole "back in our box" thing infuriates me. Football is about the pyramid system and any club being able to dream. I grew up in an era when the likes of Everton and Leeds could win the league. And someone like Chelsea could come along and gatecrash it, and force other clubs to raise their level to respond. It is the fact these boxes have been created in the first place that is the fundamental problem, and his righteous attitude misses that completely.

What a load of horses**t. He talks about morals. To my mind, the absolute number 1 rule of any sporting contest is that it should be a level playing field, and once one set of teams start enforcing different rules for different teams, that is where the moral standing breaks down completely. Giving teams in the same league different operating budgets is a complete anathema to what a sporting competition should be. Our squad value that year was estimated at €161m https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/premier-league/startseite/wettbewerb/GB1/saison_id/2015 compared to Chelsea at €554m, Man City at €499m and another 4 teams over €370m. We won that title facing an uneven playing field. To make an argument that €161m was an overspend and was unfair on the other clubs and so that takes away the feelgood factor is nonsense. It is a little different with Man City as whereas our spending was still nowhere near those clubs, Man City overtook them all. Which is quite amusing as it was these old money clubs that put in the rules to give themselves a baked in advantage, and now they are upset because their rules weren't followed and they didn't get that advantage. I would love for some mechanism to come into place to help level up that playing field (e.g. more even ditrubution of European money - won by clubs that the English FA put forward to represent the league): its not going to happen, but articles that comlpetely ignore there being an uneven playing field and start spouting moral opinions just piss me off.

Harry Kane with over 200 goals sorts of helps towards a big score... And 5 ex-Leicester in there...

Love those helmets. Perfect alt look amid a sea of ever more uninspired and unneeded unis. But the grey is awful. Blue tops and red pants would make that look like a funky Bills uni... Grey is just another team in a colour they should not be wearing.

I'd read somewhere that we'd worn it twice: once was definitely Palace away, and I did ask on here years ago if anybody knew the 2nd game - and never got an answer - so thank you for solving that with Cardiff!!!

Thanks - but those point deductions aren't actually mentioned anywhere in the tribunal's decision! Was that deduction from a separate body, or does it just go without saying all those points were deducted? As you say its BS anyway and feels like picking on 1 pitch from the whole summer

Thats incredible reading that. The section on sanctions talks of automatic 16 points, which can be adjusted up or down depending on mitigating factors. It then lists a lot of mitigating factors in LCCC's favour, but doesn't adjust the penalty. Then in the next section, it then imposes a penalty of 8 points with no commentary or reason. It actually looks like either the tribunal came to a decision of 16 points reduced to 8, but some muppet added these figures together, or it is just a completely corrupt judgement without basis intended to relegate us and keep Surrey safe, and done shamelessly as there will be no point appealing. (Edited to add that closing the tabs, I've just seen the BBC is reporting it as a 27 point deduction. So that's another 3 points that I couldn't even find in the report...)

The deadline for bids into Citi Group was what, 14th Sep? Citi Group will have NDAs in place, so I thought it unlikely we'd hear any time soon, and its unlikely the bidders themselves would come out and announce their bids, (unless they are bidding for publicity). But its possible an update was issued following the deadline, ot there was a leak, or we have an ITK, so seeing pages and pages of posts since the 14th, I thought we must have some news. But I haven't read such absolute crap for a long time from people who clearly have little involvement in finance, but feel the need to post into a thread as though they know something because its a football website and they follow football. (Apologies to the interesting posts on audit opinions, what the true level of what our debt is, and some other sensible voices) but posting that nobody is going to buy us, or we are definitely going into administration, or reading into a spurious post about 2 people backing out as being significant? It's all just s**t. If there is anyone that actually has some actual information, then please post, but otherwise can we just stop the rest of the nonsense? Drop mike.

If you look at the document, the filing was made on the 11th September - before the deadline. Companies House takes a couple of days to show filings.

Agreed - and when you get down to more detail, most leagues have salary caps (and floors) linked to league revenue, which means you can't near to the revenue to salary ratios in English football, and on top of that, these leagues get revenue sharing which means you get income and make money even if you are poor relations. (And that's without threatening to leave and having the perk of getting taxpayers to build a new stadium for you...) The outlier is actualy MLB, as there is no salary cap - which should be holding back franchise values (although we will likely see a lockout coming up as that battle escalates), which is why I mentioned the Angels sale (as this has reached record MLB values at arguably the worst time to sell as the Cap may well be on its way) and shows owners don't care about the day to day operational running. It is supply and demand and there is a limited supply, and that is driving up prices, and driving people to look at alternatives. And this is why I linked our situation to US values, as so many of the recent investors in British football are American, and they are looking at these trends in values and alternatives to US teams, and this is causiring the knock-on effect for the increase in value of English Premier League teams that I mentioned (whatever common sense might say about risks and losses). Yes there are massive risks for investors with relegation, but the flip side is potential massive upside with promotion and if an investor looking for a club currenly underperforming that will regress to the mean in the long term that is available for a knock down price (classic buy low, sell high scenario), they will certainly be expressing an interest in us with Citi Bank, which I why I think there will be a lot more interest than the general feel of people on here.

If you look at the values of US sports franchises and Premier League clubs, they have gone up and up and up. The Padres and then the Angles have just broken MLB records, The Lakers are being sold for a big profit after 1 year, and the recent partial sales of both Liverpool and Man Utd to people who won't even have a majority share have all gone for multiples of purchase price. That is the backdrop: not the annual losses, and the potential prize of buying us now and selling after a couple of promotions could be hundreds of millions.

Thought I'd leave this here... good screenshot from today of Blue Jays fan celebrating on Labour day!

I took this screenshot during Jan from Capology of the highest wages in the Championship at the time: 9 of the highest paid 16 were Leicester. This was absolutely criminal mismanagement, and was going to put ouf club out of business. Fair play to McCaron or whoever is responsible, but they have got rid of all but 2 (mixture of expired contracts, sales, loans, mutual agreements). Shame Faes is still around, but Soutter is bottom of that list and almost like a new signing and could dominate in the division, but the slashing of the players wage bill is quite phenomenal. (Will caveat by saying a lot of those salaries are estimated and should be taken with a pinch of salt, but I don't doubt the names on the list being the high earners).

Actually, I've agreed with pretty much every word he has said. He made a sensible post which actually said nothing positive about Rudkin, and suddenly got called "Pro Rudkin". Ths thread is probably a good example of a mob mentality, but it is a lot of the usual suspects seeing the "Pro Rudkin" comment and piling in as they suddenly have a target to get their personal digs in. Similarly, just because you type that everyone on the forum disagrees with him, it doesn't make it true. Just that there seems little point in making balanced posts in this thread at the moment.