Alan Frost

I don't come here very often now. i used to support BR for longer than i should but i wanted him gone way back when he refused to play Cengis Unger and kept persisting with Perez. I realised then that in a profession not noted for intellectual giants we had a dwarf..Imo the club should consult an expert in employment law as I'd hate to see him getting any form of payoff.( I think he's got the neck to take it) but there must be some way to get rid of an incompetent without paying him off.in any job surely. The rest of the clubs would be so grateful if we showed how it was done. I remember campaigning for post after post for action on our defensive and attacking set pieces including corners and today 4 years later we're still conceding from corners despite the' expert' opinion 'that no one scored from corners.Every one scores from corners when they play us. A manager who has n't sorted that in several seasons should be long gone.Its so basic. Incidentally I'm puzzled by the lack of enthusiasm for Sean Dyche. A man who kept Burnley up for season after season seems exactly what we need. With the players we have I think Dyche would take us to a midtable finish at least. Ndidi and others are basically still the same guys who stood up and performed wonders when we could hardly muster a team for injuries. Surely Dyche is the man who could get the whole team playing to their potential which even now might mean a top 10 finish.and after listening to Rogers it would be an incredible pleasure to listen to a straight talker who didn't demand a fortune in salary, Then he'd surely deserve a second season and maybe more to follow We still need another few seasons in the Premier league without some of the mistakes of the Rodgers era. and by then Kasper might be ready to manage. i think he'd be good and surely he'd take a job back in the PL with a club he loved. Mind you if we're still in the Pl in say 6-7 years I would n't begrudge a decent bonus for SD maybe Kasper could learn the trade under SD. I know I'm a dreamer but so were the guys who hired Claudio and even maybe the guys at Forest who gave Brian Clough a job, and look how that worked out. Maybe Sean Dyche is n't smooth enough for some at the King Power. They probably would have thought Guy Roux was n't smooth enough either.

I was always a Rodgers supporter.No more I'm afraid.Once your team loses vitality and desire to win there can only be one culprit,He helped build a good team and achieved some good things,(usually with fortune on our side.) The signs were there two years ago,the persistence with at least one player who wasn't premier league material, the continuing set piece fiasco.This forum ,or some at least,continally pointed out the failings. There is no way a team with the potential of these players should ever be below top5 iMO. Whatever the financial cost it would be cheaper to get rid sooner rather than later. We don't need a big name,we're no longer the big club we looked like becoming until recently.Missing that opportunity meant inevitably sinking into mediocrity. A good honest grafter who the players respect and who has some pride in the way his teams play and who is aware that Rodgers level performances and results are not acceptable and will mean the sack would do for the time being. there's quite a few around at the moment . A pity the best fit IMO is at Newcastle. I suspect we'd be a better fit than the geodies and IMO Howe would do better with LCFC than at Newcastle. Hopefully the right man could bring us back to where we were when Rodgers came.This would be an attractive job ,no need to burden ourselves with the expense of paying or getting rid of a Rodgers. It would take the right man a couple of years to regain the position we had but at least we'd be saved the boredom that currently goes with watching or supporting LCFC.

We'll never really know how easy it's been for Pep. If its been as easy as it had admittedly looked you can be sure he's missed a lot compared with what Brendan might experience. I would say Morinho's achievements possibly exceed both Pep and Klopps' although he's a far more complex character imo. Hard to judge ,we never know enough and imo its too early to try to judge BR which is good . We've still got an exciting ride ahead.

Well done Covid , you little baskets. Its an ill wind etc. Late in life you freed up enough of my time (nothing like solitary confinement for time) to become a fully committed supporter of the club I'd supported since a very young man. By pure luck the first city I lived in with a top level football club was Leicester. Luckily again the second one was Nottingham and I married a Nottingham girl. In hindsight I couldn't have done better, first Forest then Leicester both achieved literally the almost impossible. The Manchesters, Liverpools and Londons had more success in football over my lifespan but I preferred the teams that came from ordinary situations and have hit the heights. Notts County had their moments and I have n't yet given up hope for them, but they've got to get a move on if I'm going to see it, but 2 out of 3 I'm very grateful for. Given a choice and if French I'd have picked Auxerre,certainly not PSG. I got a few things wrong when I invested the small amount so that I could watch all 90 minutes of LCFC's matches. Mainly I massively underestimated Iheanacho as a footballer and a man, but luckily the most important guy to the club's football, BR did n't. I did get one thing right I think. I thought when BR became manager we might achieve even more than 2015/6. Its beginning to look as if that could maybe happen. Like all of one's life its always balanced on a knife edge and something quite small can grow and bugger up the whole shebang. Clough and Taylor, two stubborn guys lost each other, Clough started drinking far too much and the wheels came off the miracle,big time. Still it did all happen,I'm not grumbling. I'm hoping BR has had his biggest knockbacks ( having to stop playing, L'pool ) and he continues to develop as a manager and the latest miracle continues. No guarantees of course; Clough lost a miraculous playing career, engineered miracles with Taylor, and then much later faded again. Mainly I think we need enough luck that BR realises he probably could n't be in a better spot and neither can the club. That bloody knife edge again.Some might say we had our share of luck when we got Jamie Vardy,and Vichai and family. Now we have BR who so far has exceeded my optimistic expectations, while disappointing in a couple of respects. Still writing a couple of days after Man U and the quarter final we're still moving in the right direction maybe heading for yet more glory still. I'm old enough to be a realist and a cynic and knowing now ,more about the club I've come across a few skeletons but on the whole I genuinely feel we are the good guys and I just hope Foxes everywhere are in for an exciting ride. We might not have seen anything yet. I count on nothing but hope for everything which is about how I like it and it should be.

Well .you're obviously not a student of history and a hazy memory won't help you become one. I'm more a student of mathematics where a hazy memory does n't help but its more of a handicap in history. I'd never heard of this Pierpoint , only the hanging one ,Pierrepoint ,until this thread ,I was in Scotland by 1991 but he certainly was n't a fairly insignificant figure. From the liitle I now know he might just be as important as JV in becoming what we are now. Certainly I doubt many hated his guts ,but it appears the board (boards ?) of the time might have done so he left. Shortly afterwards I suspect his disappearance lead to Leicester City going into administration, something I'm already pretty sure would n't have happened if he'd still been around. I have n't opened his book yet but i believe in just under ten years he and no doubt others took our revenue from £2m in 1991 to £24m in 2000, and provided the Carling stand. I have n't opened his book yet but I suspect the fact that he and Martin O'Neill left at around the same time is more than coincidence. I still have much to learn but I would be very surprised if Vichai would have bought LCFC without the happenings of 1991 to 2000. I suspect we'd have looked an awful investment. In fact since then he's done very nicely thank you and unfortunately probably won't reappear. I suspect thats a pity , he sounds exactly what Top , BR and the club management might need to glide into the big six. I'm sure we'll get there but it might be more of a struggle. In fact I think and hope we might eventually pass a few of the big six, but the quicker the better for we old guys. I'd like to be around to see it. I'll let you know.

Don't understand the can we beat the Manchesters posts.We support the only team in the PL that have pulled off a 5000-1 shot. Today Sheffield Utd's team gave Chelsea's full £1000 Million squad (in the end) a real scare despite being on the floor a week ago. I'm not a subscriber to the anyone can do anything well if they believe school but this is different, this is football. Not only can we beat the Manchesters there is a good chance we can and will. If everyone involved is normal, average we probably won't , once we are inspired , we probably will . We managed to stay inspired for a whole season not so long ago and so far this season we have n't been far off , just a bit patchier. Not the end of the world if we just come close but let's do it again.

We counter that by showing the amount of tread left on their boot soles and point out if there is any reduction in top speed or acceleration it will help enable their existing players to keep up with them. Nearly every ones' players will have injury question marks over them from this season. If we get a good finish which looks likely, I hope we don't need to sell anyone significant and practically all our squad have proved to the PL they can be trusted as squad players to put in a shift and step up when required.

Personally I doubt we can afford 2/3 players of the required quality and we have at least one we have to sell imo (i hope not so and he comes good, I think I was very wrong about Iheanacho too) .We are n't going to win the ECL next year so I'm not sure we need 2/3 players next season anyway. Just a nice sensible amount of progress. IF we do win the ECL it will almost certainly be a sign that the almighty has been overwhelmed by the surprise of me praying for something. I must admit I don't know who was responsible for 2015/6 but the bastard never tipped me off. I also hope that BR realises he might have to be smart and consider the effect of player's agents. Hopefully our key players know their agents work for them and not vice versa. Even our well grounded players might have agents who are almost certainly not bothered about LCFC and probably not much except their wallets.

That 's one of the bad signs I mentioned but any good manager will make mistakes in selection and man management occasionally. That's OK as long as everyday remains a schoolday and he tries as hard as possible to correct them..

Also unless we get a genius mistakes will be made and we'll occasionally want to sell and will benefit.

I think it is. You just pick the right people. IMO we already have many of the right people. One thing you don't do is buy a striker as a knee jerk reaction as soon as your supposedly lone scorer is injured.That way you spend at least £30m which is probably wasted and leaves you with yet more dead wood. Its hard enough to buy the right replacement car quickly. People are infinitely more complicated. There are n't any robot players yet altho the being known as Crouch looked like one for a while after scoring. Generally any thing done in haste is repented at leisure unless you're lucky, altho I'll grant that occasionally one has to move as quickly as possible. Not very often if one keepscool and knows one's business. Anyway players are like buses ,if you miss one........

Well good for BR. I hope that he might have the potential to become our first Great manager. We've had a few good ones, Claudio came close, for a season. Many have suggested me:-) but like Claudio I can't guarantee enough years anyway. We are overdue one and at least we are a suitable club to have a Great manager. There are n't many clubs as well qualified for one as LCFC imo.I only hope Brendan Rogers is smart enough to realise that he might be at a club where he could become a Great manager. If he aimed for LCFC he's probably a genius.I hope BR realises he could n't do this by joining either of the Manchesters, Liverpool,Chelsea or Arsenal, and that achieving it at Spurs would probably not count. Recently I'd become less hopeful. There had been a few bad signs. I think becoming a Great manager is probably harder , maybe impossible these days. I've posted my idea of a Great manager before but to recap he goes to a run of the mill club , recruits over a period a great team , stays long enough at the club to win several major trophies preferably winning at least one ECL (this whole procedure might well take ten years plus), becomes almost universally admired throughout football, and finally leaves an infrastructure and team that continues to succeed (including a successor) after he is no longer with the club. It seems to me that he would probably be English , but British would do. We are in one sense not a run of the mill club. My experiences with LCFC suggest we are in many ways a rather special club. We have had recently and hopefully still have exceptional owners. These days the manager probably needs an exceptional chief executive and an exceptional team around him which he might have to build to some extent. There are a few signs imo our coaching staff need improving. It might also be necessary to sell a playing asset depending on post covid finances but I hope not as that might extend the period of achieving this beyond my lifetime. I wonder if ,bearing in mind my age we could begin this Sunday.

Thank you for the reference. I shall read Pierpoint's book which has excellent reviews. To anyone who's spelling is suspect one would think the subjct could have had some morbid fascination. (I believe the executioner spelt his name "Pierrepoint".) I note you are a new signing ; i've been a supporter since early 1963 but only a forum member since 2018 when I found out it existed. I know little of even the relationship between football forums and their associated clubs and so far have not taken the trouble to find out (it isn't that straightforward) . My experience to date would suggest that an article by a man who was at the centre of running LCFC for about ten years might be of little interest to forum members although this seems pretty well run to me for a fan forum.

Nothing wrong with being a dinosaur, I'm one myself, but even dinosaurs evolved. I would hope with some slim evidence that LCFC growing is maybe one hope of keeping football nearer to the path most fans would prefer, maybe even getting it to retreat a little.

So did I . But altho I always feel he could work a bit harder he seems a big boned guy and maybe moves more languidly which fools me a bit ,most strikers are more mercurial and twitchy. But I'm very impressed with the technical quality of his finishing. He also seems a very shy nice guy.His header against Fulham ? was far more difficult than appeared at the time, and even the header against Palace he missed, I think he should have got but it was more diifficult than it appeared at first.His goal from Youri's pass also had lots of subtle skills. He's certainly no smooth talker but I think a much deeper character than I took him for at first. So good for him BR and the team are encouraging him to give interviews (i can't imagine he's volunterring yet.) He also seems the ideal build to put our goals from corners and set pieces up and its definitely something he and Fofana ( in particular) should be being coached in.

I'm always amazed when my match ratings line up roughly with the overall ratings especially as I always feel I would be helped by some sort of guide as to absolute values as opposed to relative values . For instance I gave Iheanacho 9 today as I thought he worked hard ( best ever i've seen from him) and took all his goals well. However the opposition was extremely poor and he missed a sitter. Early on when the match looked far more even , say the first 15=20 minutes, I thought we were regaining possession due largely to SU mistakes. and during this early period it seemed to me Vardy was pressing more effectively than for several matches but was still lacking enough support in pressing from iheanacho and Perez.. During this early period Perez was getting knocked off the ball at times, not linking as well as he did later and while much better the first half hour felt very flat to me and I was very aware of my pessimistic feelings pre-match. Our goal was never threatened but we were limited to a couple of long inaccurate shots and the Perez header. We gradually were improving then scored an excellent goal and improved rapidly ,often being gifted possession, Ndidi was doing well and it seemed we hardly needed to press after the goal .Only seen the goals from touchline angle . Obviously that was fine for the first goal but the Perez and follow up goals all seemed amazingly well struck and directed. We now hardly seemed to need to press and were almost constantly in possession. So I gave Iheanacho a 9 gratefully ,especially as he was trying to get JV a goal which he should have had, but feel a bit generous as he could have had a couple more although it seems a bit harsh that he would have had to press like a supersonic steam roller and score five goals to have got a ten from me. I'm just so pleased for him and he was so grateful and seems one of the good guys and quite devout. I also felt so mean only giving Kasper a 6 after some of his recent performances but how could I give him more than 6? The bugger never seemed to be doing anything. But I gave him 6 as so far however little he has had to do I always assume he follows the match ,totally alert and he pressed the grass down nicely at the edge of most of the penalty box, yelling head away ,and then very quietly and unheard " .I' ll be with you in a minute when I've pressed this tricky bit down.". I also deducted 1/4 point from the whole midfield for two much passing back although having watched a couple of Man City matches since we last played (seemed like a month) I gather even the best do it quite often these days. I only gave the young lad substituted on a 6 but he looked impressive to me.

Very poor opposition but everything very satisfactory, Not a bad player for LCFC. can't give then all 8 or 9 but Should have had a great pleasure to give Perez a decent mark for the first time for me, Iheanacho superb and the hardest I've seen him working, Vardy much better although should have had a couple but played very well. Pereira and Soyuncu will have better games but both ok and Ricky slowly getting back to his best. Missed at least 3 easier ones than the 5 scored but who is complaining. Confidence from that should enable us to lift a bit more which should give us a good chance of a cup semifinal.

Looking hard for positives. Surely we'll win and comfortably hopefully by 2-3 minimum and improve our GD. BR has got it pretty well right so far and today should be much easier opposition than any match to date . So why do I feel we'll be disappointed with the score even though anything but a win is unthinkable? I hope Perez has a good game and JV at last regains some form and I'll feel happier at full time.Pre match I feel less confident that any post on here.

Appreciated , nice to meet someone who is capable of reading more than a couple of sentences at a time. I'm pretty old and won't be around fortunately when novels are two paragraphs ,literature has vanished and every opinion has to be expressable in a twitter line. I once heard Donald Trump had never read a book .I suspect he was boasting. I think it showed even though I doubt it was true. And yet probably not. Sometime ,someone will remember and wonder Hey , did n't we used to be civilised once. Mind you I'm noticing already the modern novel has typically 50 plus chapters , each of about 2 pages , and has a stack of glowing Amazon reviews supposedly by readers. If one's selection technique falters one buys it and finds it should be even more glowing, if one can find a match. When anyone can write or do anything, no one ends up able to do anything well . Not that I'd claim to write, I was a simple injuneer and was n't encouraged at culcha.

I think the players were much harder and probably had been ,most of them , born or brought up during the war Their grandparents and maybe parents occasionally had been probably through 2 WWs. I don't mean necessarily harder in any bad ways just stronger in most ways and better people in general and imo. I think Munich had happened to Man U and in !963 they were again no longer anything special. Before that they were pretty special for a while and probably much more admirable. I 'd have to look it up but I think we were certainly favorites for what was probably our fourth cup final. I doubt we bottled any of them ,whatever that means. From memory they only became great again under Alex Ferguson who had proved himself a great manager at Aberdeen. I think he came close to being sacked early on at Man U I presume because it took him time to learn to manage something that big. I'm not a great admirer of his from then on but i'd have to know a lot more to be sure I'm right. In fact I'd say the odds are I'm not.

Davie Gibson , there was a player of culture . I had no idea I was watching him in his first full season playing but the skill was so obvious. Such was Scotlands wealth of players then he got few caps. to my absolute amazement. Standing in the shed stand on the halfway line I first became aware of the sheer physical effort necessary for Stringfellow to advance down the line against defenders. I'd often worked in holiday jobs as a builder's labourer. I went at it and usually ended up selected to work for the top bonus gang even on huge sites , but never had seen a human being close up extend that much effort. For most of 90 minutes. I was also surprised at first when the skinny lanky Stringfellow I'd watched in the first half across the pitch came close to me seconnd half and I realised how massive he was particularly his calves and legs.

My word !! Many thanks to you. Maybe my dislike of resting players is sounder than I thought although humane possibly ,and efficient no doubt occasionally. In return I can confirm the evening away match on the evening of Easter Tuesday with Real Madrid was a product of my imagination , as you probably suspected but maybe nearer the truth ,in a way, than even I suspected. i might also say along with other details. I've checked by phone and the bull is still doing well , but probably quite tough eating by now, however and the child mentioned turned out to be a grandson. Have I mentioned I sometimes lie like an Aden watch ? Usually in the interests of truth. A pleasure to have made your acquaintance through the forum. Some "bottlers" ,eh ,to use a foul modern term although funnily enough its often appropriate to those who use it. My comment about kids today not believing what went on then seems only too true. I can hardly believe it myself , I honestly thought it was me being stupid or an error. Even supporters attending both matches, probably by train ,or maybe even coach, is incredible. You don't know if Law (I think he was a Denis ,not a Dennis) scored from a header do you ? I can only remember ,I think one of his goals which I think was from a sort of pinball ,bundle, situation with his head at the large two layer stand end .It was 57 years ago and I'm not even sure I 'm remembering the right match. On the halfway line in the shed like stand there was usually a surge at corners and it was diificult to get a clear mental image to retain. I'm sure there 's a match report available somewhere on the internet but I'm too much of a football ignoramus to know where. I'm still bloody pinching myself.

I just hope its only One, altho two's probably OK if Man U drop out. I would n't worry about that if I was sure Olly was n't getting some guidance. He surely can't stay lucky for ever.I'm sure Pogba's agent isn't giving him any.

As I remember no one had squads and I don't remember any injuries.( NOTE just been reminded of Len Chalmer's injury .)I don't remember any bottling either , except for beer and milk. Admittedly I only went to home games (I was an apprentice and not too rich) and was just a fan and did n't know of any forums and life and death fans. Bill Shankly had yet to make his excellent imo joke. I just stood as near the half way line at Filbert St. as i could, watched the cup final on TV (all the TV football we got) and generally enjoyed the whole thing. You could say a time of innocence when most fans trusted the manager and team and if we lost just accepted the other team were better on the day. Managers and players generally were long term and did n't switch for money, which there was n't a lot of in the game except in brown envelopes which the wealthier teams were able to employ, or at least probably starting to. Relatively small transfer fees were paid and most clubs in the top division could afford most players . The playing field was almost perfectly level for all. Foreign stars were almost unheard of. LCFC never had any if you did n't count several wonderful Scots players, and probably a few Welsh (i remember Peter Rodrigues a few years later) and Irish who were just regarded as British although we just called them English. The half way line seemed to be full of die hard fans , often joined by die hard fans from the other team, and the whole thing seemed to go off in good humour and a lot of laughter. The stadium was packed and you often spent some time off your feet , unaware of any danger, which there probably was. Maybe there were dark undercurrents but if so they were flowing only among fans who would have been regarded as slightly misguided and malevolent. Trouble at any match was very rare, I never ever saw any or even heard of any.. Maybe I was an innocent in a time of innocence and still am in a sense although I am now aware of trouble, disagreements among fans of the same team, money and corruption in the game etc etc. bur all that was largely in the future. Later I lived in Leicester again, stood on the halfway line with my wife and it was all much the same. (round about 1969-73) but there was certainly racialism in the city and the local rag , mainly just words. I was in a professional job and never came across it personally, just in the local rag. Never came across it in the factory guys I worked with either. Maybe I was lucky. Later still I lived in London, I still went with my wife to see Leicester when they played in London but from trips to see Arsenal , but mostly Chelsea I became aware of and a witness to foul language and violence, racialism, read of odd murders, and all the things wrong with the game today, including the influence of too much money in the game. Finally it became unwise for my wife to attend. Then in a final act ,many years later, during a pandemic lockdown I became a more serious fan and joined a football forum and became for the first time aware of a real nastiness in the game even among supporters of the same team. I like to imagine its less among LCFC fans than in other clubs but I am a bit puzzled that guest fans often seem more civilised in general than some FT members. Maybe they are older guys and better humoured. Maybe the moderators filter out the worst abuse from guest fans but again it appears in some cases thay are quite happy to join in, albeit a lttle more subtly, especially if the received opinions are not followed. It seems to me a not 100% open forum although maybe that's partly because the censors have what they perceive as the club's interests in mind. I don't know, but what I do know and am very sure of is it's misguided except when it is necessary to preserve the law, and decency, and maybe protect the vulnerable. I regret it, but don't mind terribly , I was brought up in a rough area for problem families, but I find it all very sad, that we've become so much more advanced these days. Presumably

I just looked at the matches , you are dead on correct sir. I think I was at the Man Utd match and looked it up to see if my memory was correct that Denis(sic) Law had scored with a header as my memory seemed to recall he often did and as I claimed in a post on the thread " A Serious Point" Unfortunately the scorers are not recorded. What is recorded is that we went up to Manchester and drew 2-2 with them the day before.??? Fixture congestion could be quite bad in those days and I'd forgotten the 2-2 draw although I think I remember we played an evening match away at Real Madrid that evening. (we did n't play night games as well except midweek) . Even those tough sixties players could n't play 4 games in 24 hours every day. You could ask'em but they usually wanted another quid ,or a sack of spuds, if they played over 20 matches in a week. Few clubs except ye Machestyres could afford to pay players £21 a week. The early computers ,being coal or wood fired ,often had a lot of smoke over the video and I could n't make out all the scorers ,or indeed the stadium a lot of the time. I used to have the celluloid video of the away game at Real Madrid but gave it to the club as they never officially reported the evening and night matches which were mainly played ,you'll recall for fun and side bets only. I think I won a bull (not a little white one ,a proper fighting bull )on that game but was n't allowed to bring it back on the plane unless I paid extra for first class and promised to clean up any droppings. I left it with a lady friend who is probably a granny by now.I certainly did my best for the country and assume she had at least one child with some English blood in him. I don't know if the bull is still well. As you'll remember it was only well after the war when we had got our heads clear of the mud and bullets that this namby pamby one ,two or at most three matches a week nonsense started. By the way I had a mobile phone back then on which the video was even worse , like most then it was n't that smart but had an attachment you could fit to get stones out of horses hooves. Eventually I got a puncture in the industrial sack barrow tyre I used to move it around with .If you told kids half of what went on , today there'd never bloody believe you. PS I am serious about it seems to say 14th and 15th April for Man U matches 2-2 and then 4-3. What am I reading wrong ? It could be a mistake by the scribe in copying from the parchment or maybe it was a punishment for drawing and you had to stay for a night and play the next day until there was a result (two nights away for a 0=0,and the lowest rated player on each side knee-capped) . Only fair for describing matches as for entertainment .I seem to remember United all being on a diet of sports bread and Red Bulls blood in gaol for a year for having too many o-o s. The case was brought by Copes football pools . Mind you the honourable referees guild still gave them the title. They claimed united having been allowed day release for one player to take penalties had resulted in enough goals . How they were being awarded so many penalties when they were all in bloody gaol was never fully explained.