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He had a purple patch where he got forward and looked half decent under Rodgers I think it was. Now he looks devoid of any attacking confidence, is an abomination at set pieces, is okay at recieving the ball with little pressure but a slight press he looks like it's a hot potato. I've seen many teams, especially Cov target him.

Yep. I'd even argue we looked better at times under RVN than this we're being served up. RVN had the balls to use Evans and Monga in the highest division too.

Problem is you've got Thomas who's been the pits so far starting again with no one on the bench to replace him. He's the luckiest guy alive. He should be 3rd or 4th choice in any decent squad.

I'd be honestly dropping him tomorrow. Anyone with eyes could see he's been a massive liability at times. Yeah I know he's scored some worldies and is probably (when coached correctly) our most talented player - but he literally produces more dangerous chances faced than caused by his reckless gung-ho approach especially in the last game V Hull . Add to this his ridiculous social media posts this week tells me he feels like some sort of God like figure at the club that is untouchable. I'm sorry it comes across that way and he needs to be checked IMO. He needs to be brought back down to Earth and we need to utilise his strengths in a way that doesn't look scattergun and random. Drop himnfor now. Teach him. Get some discipline first in the squad Marti

Fatawu tonight was like a self destruct button. Can't think I can remember such a tactically poor show from manager and player. We seemed to be facing a goal conceded or dangerous chance faced almost every time he was dispossessed and there was absolutely no game plan or general idea of how to play. Not the first time it's happened either. We looked so poor and disjointed throughout. What the hell is Marti trying to achieve? I've also noticed tonight a lot of the attacking players playing with their back to goal laying it off quickly back to the midfielders and defenders but so much so it looked like an instruction. Absolutely all over the place literally. A horror show on the eyes. Almost Paulo Sousa levels of ineptness at times...

The warning signs were there very early on in his tenure and my topics to call for his head many weeks ago were deleted within seconds. I suppose now the moderators will allow this topic to stand when it suits their agenda. I've always said that a forum should allow stuff to stand because it will either cause debate or sink very quickly if not worthy.

That ball from Soumare was Dennis Pratt esque!

All 3 teams relegated last season all losing against average championship tonight.

Dip your balls in sulfuric acid instead.

Fatawu looks a liability at the moment

What the f**k is that Marti?

Where's the press conference for the Hull game?

Is this fact or opinion?

But he is sticking with Vesty and Faes despite there being an error on almost a weekly basis.

I think Abdul on the other wing was worse. The way we set up means that if you find yourself as a winger you're going to have a really safe game or pull of some absolute worldy skill to influence the game. Fatawu, like always tried to make things happen and none of it came off last night. Monga a little more reserved but he seems to have a good head to know when to go for it and when to play safe - Abdul doesn't have this at all! Marti needs to get someone like Aluko in to support Monga and perhaps get Ricardo more focused on supporting Fatawu on the wing. This means having very disciplined CBs (which we don't have) and having a defensively minded DM ( the thought of Skipp, Choudhury or Soumare make my skin crawl) but one is needed to play to allow the fullbacks to support the wingers.

Quite rightly Marti made a massive song and dance about the Wrexham second half basically calling the players out, calling them arrogant. Good on you Marti.... We've been waiting for someone to call them out and give them some home truths... Wait.... The absolute exact same thing, almost weirdly identical happens again against Portsmouth weeks later! Maybe you're arrogant too Marti to think these clowns are going listen to you? Action now please Marti - get that defence binned for a start.

I know this won't happen but we need to drop these two clowns and have Okoli and Nelson in from now on. Nelson can offer the ball playing that Vesty does but also has pace. Okoli, although not the greatest naturally gifted footballer, has strength and good attitude. They'd complement each other well. Thomas needs to be binned as well.

We couldn't have picked a worse striker. He looks absolutely useless. How on earth can you have literally years to know that Vardy will need to be replaced and come up with with this s**t? So many exciting names were linked that left and went to lesser clubs too!

This commentary team on Sky sound like they've been dragged out the pub.

Carranza looks like he's carrying a lead weight around his waste and has never seen a football before. Can't believe Lorenz Hutchinson can be any worse.

Carranza has done nothing but that's twice as much as Daka.

First thought I had too. I wonder if she was against BC Game and ultimately left her job because of the ethics. Now Top has taken her role it seemingly is the first thing he has sorted. Let's not forget there were prison sentences being mentioned at one point over the use of this sponsor! I'm just guessing here and filling in massive gaps of course but the more time that passes the more of an uneasy feeling I get with Top.

Just to add - Marti was asked in an interview (well into the season) out of all the games so far which game would he say resembles the way he wants to play and the best he's seen us. He mentioned Fiorentina as his game!

Nonsense. It's Rudder's private jet he uses for scouting missions. Apparently he likes to ride in the cockpit and there's always confusion when the pilots are asking for left or right Rudder.