TheFiveTime

wow wow wow, first time this season I am excited to watch

I trawled through the stoke forum to see what they thought. Most think 12-15 is fair. Seems like he is a good player who just came back from serious injury and has been shakey on return. Prevailing sentiment is happy to let him go.

at least we've shown great character and resilience today

absolitely not a foul - knew he was going to score it

Defended really well today, clear game plan, not quite executed 100% though

He is a great cb and all but people are forgetting his greatest assets: his hair and his jawline

anyone with a decent stream?

It has been a slow decline over the last two years. From missing out on Champions League twice in unfortunate circumstances, the injuries to key players, the poor transfers, players not wanting to be here the way we handled Europe last season and of course, significant mismanagement in so many footballing areas (ie corners). We have completely fallen off the cliff this season but the cracks were already there. You just needed the fofana incident to really expose what has become a shell of a club.

I really do disagree with those calling for Ndidi's head. It is quite clear that Ndidi, while having a limited style, is the best at what he does - winning back the ball covering the back 4 and recycling it. Over the last two years he has been pushed and pulled out of position. From playing as a box to box midfielder being told to press and fly forward where he easily gets passed around and lost in the game to playing as a CB where, although he played in the position as a young man, is incredibly tough at premier league standard. This continual abuse of Ndidi and his skills by the management has clearly left his confidence shot and a shell of a player. After brighton's game and the errors he made there playing in the wrong position, do you really think it is as easy as putting him back in position and say 'there ya go lad, play your game'. He needs nurturing and rebuilding from the absolute crimes committed against him to bring him back to his best and this is just another example of the complete mismanagement of our talent going on right now!

I think dyche would be good here. Esp t the moment. Needs to get these people in line.

He just doesnt get it does he

Good good good, now we can move on from rodgers and play some decent football

They spent 7 million on Billy Gilmour

My worry is that ward made a couple of basic saves today and rodgers will deem that enough to keep him in the team.

He's absolutely hung Ndidi out to dry playing him out of position with a terrible goalkeeper behind him and now expect him to put a shift in at cdm after having his condidence shot!! Disgrace

I was hoping that would go in so ward never gets in the first 11 again and rodgers goes

here we go

what a bad sub

dakaaaaa saving our season

ward celebrating that basic save like he won the world cup

Ward blaming ndidi like wtf is he doing. Get him out get rodgers out

We need to get our game faes on! anyone? no? Just me then

When we went 1-0 up I jokingly said careful there, we will be 2 behind within the next 20 minutes. I'm not laughing now am I

bye rodgers

I genuinley think that is it for rodgers, this is over unless something happens in this half