urban.spaceman

It wasn’t irresponsible at the time. It was a strategy under a particular set of rules that had proven to be successful. Agreed Haven’t said that. Or that. Again, before the rules changed NONE of the other clubs in the Premier League had been competing with the top 6. Under Puel we’d been spending money well within our means to compete with the biggest clubs and we achieved that. None of the clubs anyone’s mentioned have had any trouble with PSR because they had been happy to just be in the league and stay comfortable. As I said before. The club are culpable for a hell of a lot of things and should be held accountable. But you absolutely cannot have an honest discussion about the situation without considering the entire facts.

How many times do I have to say the club’s decision making on signings and contracts has been utterly appalling? Exclusively blaming the club and refusing to acknowledge the actual cause of our demise ironically lets the Premier League off the hook. You can’t have an honest discussion about the club’s culpability without looking at the actual circumstances.

We’ve won more trophies in the last 9 years than they have in the last quarter of a century. Their last league title was closer to the reign of QUEEN VICTORIA than it is to present day. We will literally win another major trophy again before Tottenham.

Can we please have one about the Premier League and PSR?

None of those clubs had been spending any where near the amount of money we were (within the rules) to challenge at the top of the league at the time the rules changed. That’s why they’re always compliant.

The decision making 4-5 years ago was within the confines of entirely different rules. When the PSR threshold tightened in 2020/21/22 we’d been spending money within a system - that had already restricted our earnings and spending power - that we’d developed a strategy to develop and grow. And it was working. Top 3 for most of 2 seasons, League Cup semi finalists, FA Cup winners, Europa Conference League semi finalists. We’d achieved success and were growing, so had been spending - albeit poorly - within that framework. Before the rules changed, we’d already “broken” them. (Turns out, we didn’t) The squad we’d built to break into the top 5, win trophies and compete in the top end of Europe, became a millstone around our neck because not only couldn’t we sell them to any other clubs - who now couldn’t spend as much money either - we also couldn’t replace any of them like-for-like. These are the same rules that the Premier League and EFL are both on record as stating they’re poorly written. BOTH leagues have explicitly and repeatedly broken their OWN RULES while at the same time failing to prove we’ve broken any of theirs. Blame the club all you want - they (especially Rudkin) have a LOT to answer for. But I’m sick of people pretending that we’re not dealing with hostile, incompetent and clearly corrupt leagues.

I refute that. I absolutely agree. But nobody cares about the unfairness until it happens to their club. The amount of ignorance about our case - even going back to administration 20 ****ing years ago - is unbelievable

“Club owned by a multi billionaire with demonstrable record of investment can’t afford to sack failing manager” What truly ****ing absurd times we live in.

Guarantee you Rudkin gives him a new contract.

I can’t remember which one specifically but the club stated consternation at the Premier League’s rules and the state of competition in a statement after we won one of the panels. I’ll look for it later. But I desperately want the club to kick up a fuss about it. Sue the *****.

Also, our win against the Premier League in September was pretty hilarious at the time. They admitted they were incompetent and proved they were corrupt at the same time. Cvnts.

Surely has to be the fact that, in both the seasons we got relegated and were generally appalling, we still managed to beat Tottenham twice and scored 9 past them.

Hate to break it to you but some of the most pious people can be the most actively vile. One or two posters have proven that on here pretty clearly a few times. Not that I believe that Trump is in any way religious. He IS his own God and has masterfully exploited the Christian Taliban in the states into giving him the power he wields. When he gets up this morning his first comments about the Pope will almost certainly be about himself and taking a shot a Biden.

Vance Liz Trussed the Pope

So... Not a shred of honesty about what's actually happened then. As to be expected.

I remember seeing him on Santa Claus: The Movie when I was a kid - my sister literally mentioned that film the other day - and he doesn’t seem to have aged once! He’s a brilliant actor. I think he’ll be perfect as Dumbledore. I hope he’s still around to finish the series. I agree, though I’ve always believed in the best actor for the job. I hope with the ‘faithful adaptation’ they’re mean they’re going right the wrongs of the films.

Pope’s dead

I don’t disagree. I will never, ever agree with this.

I don’t think my relationship with the actual sport of football will ever recover to be honest. The Premier League and their cunty clubs have absolutely murdered the game. I will never, ever forgive them for what they’ve done to it. And us. Scum of the ****ing earth.

Maybe I'll give it a few months instead

Maybe in a few weeks after we've all calmed down

I have my reasons.

Guarantee they won’t succeed. We demonstrated last season how incompetent and corrupt they are and we’ll do it again next season.