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I don't think anyone expects gung-ho attacking but both Mavididi and Fatawu have proved last season they can drop back and defend, Enzo demanded that for his controlled football and shape he wanted. I think most people just want this side to be given a chance, that if we're going to sit back and defend that we have our best options for counter-attacking, not experienced campaigners trying to hold the ball up. The right subs at the right time would have been pretty much any time after the first half as it was blindingly obvious that again we'd set up wrong and were being over-run on the right (again), lacking ideas in their half and giving the ball away cheaply. The running theme from virtually all games this season is that our starting set-up, line-up or style has been wrong and needed to change in order for us to get something from the game. I was not only in favour of giving Cooper a chance when he came in, I was totally in favour of him full stop because of how he'd turned an abysmal Forest side around and achieving things with young players for England. Wins are great, 9 from 8 is a decent start but the points don't cover up the glaringly obvious errors and the fact we've been very lucky not to have conceded 4 or 5 goals in about half the games. His comments about Fatawu needing to adapt to the Prem when he'd thrown the likes of Okoli and El Khannous straight in just show he won't even admit to an error. He can't be fired when we're picking up points but equally he can't keep doing it the hard way because he'll have fans on his back more often than not and eventually we will get a kicking off more clinical sides.

Always do, win or lose. And don't pretend you're some sort of philosopher knowing about "people like me", I've seen enough managers come and go to recognise the good ones and the imposters without blindly dancing round a maypole after a win against one of the doggo teams in the league.

I don't remember anyone saying easy but they are the games you need to win at home to stay up.They outplayed us for large parts of the game and better finishing sees them win easily. Iraola is quietly building a good side there.

Not allowed because it's the Remembrance fixture

Why do we always have to have brigades? Fans concerned by poor performances are no less valid than the bobble-hatted Coach 1s who find no fault with any performance. Any win Vs Forest is welcome but it won't suddenly erase two months of poor performances and handbrake-on selections. Would love to go out there and take them apart but know Steve doesn't want that sort of display.

Barmy statement, laced with hyperbole to make it seem more credible. If we were anywhere near winning 7-0 there wouldn't be an issue and he'd be lauded as a genius. Fact is we look over-run in most games, lacking in ideas and the man keeps our most creative and experienced heads on the bench whilst we struggle to execute his "game plan". We'll all take the wins but he's certainly not endearing himself by doing it the hard way and turning us from a 75% possession to a 25% possession side.

Did you watch any of that game today? Or even Bournemouth? For long periods of both we were second best, slow, lacking ideas and completely disjointed. Bournemouth on another day win 3 or 4-1. Saints lost their heads especially after the equaliser/ sending off. We were so poor in the first half you can't possibly have been happy? He's ruining a very good squad and turning us from a possession based, controlled side into.....whatever this clueless set-up is currently called. I'm not looking for negatives just pointing out the obvious.

Based on?

It's as positive as you can get based on that first half display. In spite of him of not because of him.

Wanting Cooper out isn't like Radical Corbynism. Yes. I backed him to start with but I've seen nothing to think he's a positive addition to this side. We achieve despite him not because of him and nothing can prove otherwise. That first half as so many halves this season was awful. Grim, negative, clueless football that alienates players and fans. Can you really say you want him to stay???

Welcome on board. Still plenty of seats on the bus, I got on a couple of stops ago.

Even his missus has put a bench emoji in her good luck message

In a title winning season he didn't assist once but was one of our best players through simply retaining possession. None of the players replacing Winks have done anything either. The difference - as demonstrated without him against Bournemouth - is that Winks keeps the ball. Ricardo doesn't need gradually introducing. He played virtually every game last season and was outstanding. He's barely touched the grass this season. Abdul should be starting with others coming on to box it off. 12 minutes of action in the last 3 games is nothing short of laughable. I was very much in favour of Cooper in the summer. He lost me after about 5 games. It's awful and there's no excuse for how we're setting up and playing, he's ruining what was a great squad.

Looks like Winks is the latest established name to fallbout of favour. Our bench will be better the first XI at this rate. How anyone can look at this squad and think the starting XI is stronger with Ricky, Winks and Abdul benched is beyond me

Yep 2. How many shots in total did we have and how many did they have? 19 to our 6. We were at home and didn't have a single corner kick. They had 9. If we're being generous, we rode our luck. On another day they bag 3 or 4. We cannot keep just allow our goal to be peppered. Between Palace and Arsenal we allowed over 50 shots at our goal. In a defensive set up that's incredibly poor.

The question was about getting someone with creativity and forward thinking. Brighton certainly had that for 18 months and he turned a side that couldn't score under Potter into a free-scoring outfit. Would he join us? Why not ask him? Ranieri and Rodgers were out of our league until we asked them.

No, he wanted them to spend some of the 262m they received in transfers on new players.

How do you think we're staying up on the back of allowing the most shots against us and having the fewest shots/shots on target? That's just blind faith based on nothing. It's not even a case of people being miserable, this team is playing with the handbrake on De Zerbi

Not. A. Chance. Fatawu is far too exciting for Steve. A maverick like that is capable of anything, perhaps even a goal. Best he stays on the bench.

We've seen a few players drop off over the years like Dele Alli but Rashford's 2 year fall is incredible. At any other club he'd have been given away on a free.

Not everything's a conspiracy. We'd be fuming if that was given against us and fans have moaned for 2 or 3 years about this un/natural thing. Either all ball to hand incidents are handball - similar to the way hockey does it - or it has to be left to common sense / interpretation which is where the whole inconsistency argument comes in.

Message only went out on Thursday, there's going to be a few that didn't get it but it was still fairly decent at both ends. And it'll be better for the colder night games like Forest where people naturally bring one anyway

Not sure it's a failure when all the title celebrations last season were focussed on that corner, it's pretty much recognised as the noisiest section of the ground. What I will say from sitting a couple of blocks away is that if it's going to pull more people in or just get more people involved, the constant drumbeat drowns out as much of the songs as the PA. People will join in with the C'mon Leicester stuff, the When Skies Are Grey etc but too often no matter what's happening in the game there's just a general thudthudthud, you're never going to get 5000 people knowing the words to "crazy but it's true" or "ole ole".

There's a lot saying that we gave the ball away too easily but this is what happens when you don't have Winks in there, literally dropping deep to take the ball off the defence. Neither Skipp nor Ndidi like doing that. Winks hasn't had his best season but his job is to keep it neat and keep the ball. This half-baked system makes it almost impossible to do that. This side is crying out for Mads Ricardo........Okoli..............Faes.............Justin Skipp/Ndidi........Winks Fatawu.............. Buonanotte.............. Mavididi Vardy/Cannon But this guy just won't do it. Would rather player journeymen in safe positions than coach younger players and make them better. Not overly keen on JJ at LB but Kristiansen looks lost and has no idea when and how to play with Mavididi.

Playing with the brakes on all season. Winning despite of not because of the selections.