Matt

Really enjoyed that. A mix of styles and something for everyone! Nice long ball (or is it sugar coated as a long pass?) though for Daka's goal, a thing of beauty. Entertaining from both sides. As support goes nowadays their fans were fairly decent too.

About bloody time too.

Atleast 2 times, maybe 3 (maybe more) he passed straight to a West Brom player and they had a free run on us, on our goal. It happens numerous times, most games. I'm surprised those stats are so high, but if that's what they are that's what they are.

A beautiful winner, pure counter attacking beauty. Not got a problem with Hermansen, he's a good keeper but I mentioned it in the match thread, Hermansen's short passes out and most keepers for that matter; I'm sorry but they're poor and I don't get it, so the reasoning against a long goal kick is that it's often a 50/50 leading to gifting the opposition possession right? Genuine question, please enlighten me, tell me what the difference and advantage is when Hermansen literally passes it straight to the opposition, in our own half, on the edge of our own box? I'm not even talking route one, let me make that clear but atleast with a long kick you're potentially giving up possession higher up the pitch and can defend it abit more composed, play the percentages a 50/50 rather than a 0/100 when you're gifting it to them with a short pass, and don't give me bollocks that it draws them onto us because it doesn't, not when they have a shot. Enzo's celebrations though

Not great and somewhat a struggle again but we got the win. What a winner, something from yesteryear! Wonderful! A thing of beauty, a really good goal! The way we ground it out and manner of the win hopefully stops the rot and we can push on again....

Started well but then went into our shell and started doing stupid things.

People take umbridge with the suggestion of daring to kick long. ”It gifts possession back to the opposition” they say. Well what the **** are these short passes out doing?!! Short passes also bring pressure right upon ourselves instantly.

I've been thinking of a way of wording this for a while and I know what the responses will be from the advocates of possession football, but what ever happened to players running with the ball, showing some flair, e.t.c, instead you've gotta pass the ball for passing sake. Prime example, Jack Grealish, he's been ruined. It's been coached out of him. Exciting, attacking, flair players may aswell retire and give it up, we're at a point where there is so much supposed skill in the game but they're arguably not allowed to show it. So, I apologise i'm not saying this as elegantly as I mean and think it'll get misunderstood but I've seen such response to why teams pass and the reasoning is apparently because the idea is to preserve energy, not get so tired out, make the ball do the work. This may well be in a simplistic view but in essence are they saying in this day and age where players are fitter than ever, players a few years ago, even dating back to the decades ago were fitter, better and had more ability to take a player on? Again, I wouldn't expect this all the time, but neither do I passing for passing sake and if that doesn't work, 'do it better'.

Agree with this, what I will say is i've been fairly supportive of Enzo and the way he's had us playing, however, as every game passes (no pun intended) he seems to be going more down the route of being beta-Man City/Pep-lite (Of which admittedly I called lazy opinions) and we're arguably getting worse and more boring for it. Shock.

You joke and that's your prerogative, i'm not even saying that style is right myself, but certain managers have stigmas, rightly or wrongly, get called dinosaurs e.t.c, my question is when does this style (Which let me make clear, put ourselves to one side, i'm talking purely this style, not us per se) get called out for what it is? When is it ok and accepted to criticise, noting it doesn't work for every team and/or all the time? It's the epitome of football snobbery to hold any other opinion.

You've got younger supporters slagging off the older supporters shouting "Forwards!" You've got the older supporters slagging off the younger supporters asking for the need to accept this patient, laboured football. You've got the middle aged supporters slagging off the younger and older supporters for poor atmosphere. It's a mess. But, like the style football, it's not exclusive to us. Give or take it's every fanbase and every club up and down the country, it's a by-product of a sanitised modern game. Last night should have been bouncing, from both sets of supporters, I appreciate Sheffield Wednesday aren't doing great but old ground, proper ground, proper club, no excuses, that is of course until you come to the football, the modern game, rightly or wrongly an excuse for a poor atmosphere, it simply doesn't get you off your seat i'm afraid, it doesn't excite or entertain.

It’s refreshing to see the vitriolic opinions about possession based football but where we’re they last season?! I was more vitriolic than most last season regarding it, I don’t like it anymore this season and find probably 95% of football matches (in general) boring, however if I’m to continue my interest in football I’ve got to find some kind of compromise, up until last night Enzo’s style has been that compromise, but I’m sorry, last night was as if we’d reappointed Brendan Rodgers. Am I that bothered? Not really, just fed up and empathetic - that’s what hurts the most. I feel very much football is passionless nowadays, on and off the pitch, it’s not exclusive to us, it the same up and down the country. Last night wasn’t a loss but I put it in with the three losses we’ve had I’ve tried putting a positive spin on every one of them, hoping it could focus us, give us a kick up the backside, make us realise what we need to do better, or even find another way of playing, but it seems like we’re not changing, learning and if anything regressing? We’ve arguably been found out yet the mantra is very much “do plan A better”.

Pretty damn awful. Made our own problems, time and time again, it was dare I say it, like watching a game from last season. Wednesday kept plugging away and credit to them but they didn’t even need to try that hard, we made it easy for them. The two losses we’ve had I’ve tried putting a positive spin on that it can focus us, give us a kick up the backside, make us realise what we need to do better but it seems we’re not changing, learning and if anything regressing? Onto the next one - refocus.

On the radio, they're talking about passiveness, philosophy, injuries, suspensions and the lack of and/or need to be competitive. Oh and he hasn't been backed/needs to strengthen. Deja vu.

Very diplomatic from Jannik on Radio Leicester. Shame really Good interview tbf.

And the defence for slow, pedestrian (<Not saying Enzo's is that personally) possession based football is? I present to you the following exhibits; Last season, the season before? (It's fair to say this thread's been hyjacked and derailed, I bit my tongue with a similar comment yesterday but i'm sorry this reasoning has to be pulled up for the nonsense it is)

These are more than fair and valid points. There is something I could predictably say (even by my standards) against the first part but I won't because I really need to move on from the last few years.

They'd be moaning about something. Ironic saying that as a Leicester fan because there are people moaning, but as you say they'd be picking a minute to boo about something.

Don't think they'd be any different even in our position.

Wow. Did not know Burnley were -22 GD. Take heed.

I was just thinking, do you reckon this gives the Everton players an excuse to phone it in? I mean look at us last season, many of our players phoned it in and clearly didn't fancy it, saw it as an easy exit out of the club, that's without a points deduction. Everton have a point deduction something their players can hide behind and excuse relegation for, even if it's only subconsciously. For what it worth I don't believe Dyche would allow that mentality to creep in, he'll be building a siege mentality unlike us last season, but it did make me think. Everton fans are just Everton fans feeling hard done by and likewise using the deduction as an excuse.

Then give them the 10 points back for a laugh

VAR: "At some point in the game send an Everton player off."

Pathetic from Everton.

100%. (Edit - although someone's going to make the point despite Ange-Ball they lost, again. Likewise Chelsea from the odd bits i've seen are quite a decent, exciting and refreshing watch they keep losing) Although I don't necessarily agree Enzo plays like Man City/Pep (They may have changed for all I know, I've not watched a Man City game for a few years, I refuse to watch games they're involved in, I can't watch them, they bore the shit out of me) - Unfortunately as a results of their success they've ruined football in the way so many other teams try and emulate it (That's on the other teams at fault for that, not Man City, they play that way because it works for them, despite it being boring), it might be successful for them, doesn't mean it is for everyone else, it certainly wasn't for us last season. I think it's a lazy opinion just because Enzo was Pep's assistant and worked for Man City that we play like them, I mean correct me if i'm wrong but Enzo's played under and was Pellegrini's assistant for longer with various clubs, that's not discounting he learnt nothing from his time under Pep/Man City, of course he would have done. (Yes I realise Pellegrini was Man City's manager but they didn't play like they do under Pep back then - they were quite likeable and exciting back then) As I say, you only have to speak to match going fans of other clubs or listen to phones in, most people are bored of their team and the modern day game, it's far from exclusive to us. What's happened to throwing the kitchen sink at the opposition certainly later in games, the Middlesbrough game being a prime example for ourselves - and no, I don't mean route one, again another lazy opinion and case of football snobbery.