Matt

We held them for so long but it was a pretty poor game from both teams. That's all i've got to say on the game. As sad as this sounds i've reached a breaking point regarding everything LCFC. I'm sad, i'm depressed, i'm anxious of simply speaking out either on here or at the ground.

Erm no, I mean I appreciate we're both skewing our arguments to suit. But i'm not talking goals conceded as a hammering if we scored to make the scoreline a difference of say 1 or 2-0 deficit. Otherwise i'd have included Liverpool 3-1 under RVN and called it 5 hammerings post Cooper/4 under RVN, but i've not. Neither was I including cup games - Not to suit any argument or agenda, just I didn't count them, I was purely looking at League - Fair points made however. Fact of the matter is we scoring less and conceding more, again, luck or not.

Agree. People moaned he was on the bench, yet when he started it was clear he was better off the bench, those same people (And they were the same people) then moaned when he started that we had nothing off the bench. It's been said RVN hasn't had the luxury of Ricardo, he hardly played under Cooper. Out of choice but the point remains. Despite perma-predications of hammerings under Cooper, every week, we had none. Luck or not. Post Cooper? We've had 4 hammerings. 3 under RVN. Further to that they like to claim we've been without Hermansen, 2.5 of those hammerings came with him in goal (Call it 2 as in fairness we were only 1-0 down when he came off against Newcastle, it still highlights problem). We are playing better though, that I cannot deny. Unfortunately we're worse for it though, that equally cannot be denied. There is some middle ground. We need to accept and find it.

That is ****ing fantastic. Glorious. Funny as ****. Keep at it! Such a great way of control and sustaining the game. Beautiful.

I can't stand Villa but as much as it pains me to say, they're pretty good.

The fact he's playing you'd think so. Given his performance today, possibly not.

40?! Bit old but guess he'd fit in here..

A half Plymouth/half Liverpool shirt. Games gone.

but cooper was solely down to recruiting and resembling the cast of dad's bloody army!!!

People may think this is me being sarcastic but genuinely does it perhaps not say more about the pace of the game that the modern game and manager wants? So much emphasis being put on control (Even though we're anything but in control, never have, never will) and slowing the game down, e.t.c, literally the only logic and reasoning I can come up with.

Where the meme? Trey Nyoni or other youth prospect - Not good enough for Leicester. Trey Nyoni - Plays and starts for Liverpool.

I’ve made this point for years. (Not like me to repeat myself I know). Chuck a mic in front of Pep (Or Klopp when he was at Liverpool) at half time. He’d go ballistic.

Wouldn't fancy our chances against Leyton Orient.

Played like a national ****ing league side, timid with stars in their eyes playing the mighty Man Utd of old. Heck, Tamworth gave it more of a go against Tottenham. I get Tottenham aren’t any great shakes at the moment (so much so even we beat them) but even so it the example and equivalent I’m making. Anyway, back the keeper. Hoof. I guess we’re getting the best of both, mastering neither.

First thing I thought when we lost last night, that bloody training ground is at it again! Bloody world class facilities conceding again

And the minnows from the East Midlands take the league. Smash and grab on the cusp of half time, someone call the cops!

We’re playing like a national ****ing league side, timidly with stars in their eyes playing the mighty Man Utd of old. Heck, Tamworth gave it more of a go against Tottenham. I get Tottenham aren’t any great shakes at the moment (so much so even we beat them) but even so it the example and equivalent I’m making. Anyways, back the keeper. Hoof. I guess we’re getting the best of both, mastering neither.

**** me, some of these mistakes at the top level are getting even worse. Genuinely seen more composure in Soccer Aid. Hilarious. Keep at it.

I and others have accused management, past and present of “proving a point” regards team selection, showing the need more, better support and backing. Where that theory doesn’t stand up is the refusal of the management (again, past and present) to use youth prospects, Alves, Braybrooke, Nyoni, Monga. What more of a point is needed or what more of statement could be made than that. Hopefully it’d pay off, hopefully it’d develop the players but equally if it didn’t pay off it proves your point.

But atleast we can hide behind the facade that we “played well against Man City and Liverpool.” Yippee.

Albeit by his own choice Cooper was without (chose not to play) Fatawu and Ricardo. When he did start playing Fatawu people bleated on about “having nothing of the bench”, the bloke couldn’t do right for doing wrong. Further to that imo Fatawu offered more and did more off the bench than when he was finally started. As for the Mads injury, people perma-predicted hammerings every week under Cooper, luck or not scorelines say we didn’t get a hammering. Since his departure we’ve had 4 hammerings, Mads has been in goal for 2.5 of them. I really feel I need to stress I’m not sticking up for Cooper, my attitude remains the same about RVN as it did with Cooper - what’s the point in getting rid while the club is in its current state, I am however just pointing out the indifferences in attitudes.

Beginning: You can go back to Nigel Pearson the League One season and how that really turned this club around. The catalyst to our golden era? West Brom (a) - Start of the Great Escape? Could be wrong with timings but that's sticks in my head, what an away day. End: Bournemouth (a) 2020 - Perhaps premature in many people eyes, yes we still went on to compete in Europe, win the FA Cup, but the writing was truly on the wall from that game onwards.

When was the last time a manager actually signed and hand picked players here? Let me give you some example, i'd love you to explain the reasoning and logic. Please. Why was Coady and Cannon bought then not played when Enzo was here? A waste of £14m. (I genuinely don't see Enzo 'having' those 2 and believe very much they were signed over his head) Why was Souttar, Kristiansen, Daka, Soumare, Vestergaard, Bertrand (Free, but wages..) bought and not played when Rodgers was here? A waste of around £87m. Now this is no defence of Cooper, it's simply making the comparisons and points, neither am I going to sit here and say Cooper was no part of it (I'd be a hypocrite and contradicting myself I did) because when people claim "Rodgers wasn't backed" I like to point out he was backed, very much so, to the tune of £200m, buying shite, leaving us in the mess we're currently in, of course he had a part in it but like Cooper cannot be solely blamed. Meanwhile, RVN hasn't brought or been allowed his own staff, so by that metric we're still left with the same staff, same scouts, same moneymen that recruited under Cooper. Yippee!

As opposed to: Potentially losing one of our better players - or keeping him and being unhappy? Signing a player who’s hardly been involved yet and is potentially a “shit signing”? Signing no-one? Not sure anything has improved either way or that either situation is ideal or any better than the other yet people certainly make it sound so and that other is the antichrist.

So RVN’s got some influence in this signing? Or does it not work that way?