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Two games is not really relevant. Very few took Martin's reign with an open mind. It was painfully obvious that he was the wrong man for the job and a manager that was coming off the back of two horrendous fails. I wanted him gone the moment he arrived if not sooner. The idea that he will magically become anything other than Russell f***ing Martin if we sit back and wait is not a realistic one. The 'patience' argument does not really apply in this case since his methods and their consequences are so entirely predictable and he is a manager no one wanted in the first place.

Laid bare like that, it is a truly horrifying role call and in near successive windows too with only Maresca's window in between. I think 2. Is the.mst costly as we really only needed a marginal improvement or a goalkeeper to escape relegation, but failed to act. 4. Is probably the biggest demonstration of negligence, narrowly beating 1.

They should be booed onto the pitch, booed off the pitch, followed home and booed all the way there. This is not an overnight thing. It is not the first game if the season it is the fourth year of appalling mismanagement and apathy. The fanbase should let it be known that they have had enough and that they demand more. In turn the club should be pulling out the stops to try to win us round. As for the kids, they are the only positive thing about this club but the senior pros cannot be allowed to use them as human shields to hide behind.

And that is with one of the giants of the SPL and with one of the biggest clubs in L1

I don't think a reset can be done instalments. Any of last year's clowns will infect and poison the rest of the team. It needs a clean broom. Anyone who played last year should be disqualified from the squad and made to train with the under twelves

Yes, it's positive that we are playing the likes of braybrooke and alves, but let's not kid ourselves. This is due to the level we find ourselves and also our lack of transfer budget. It has been a little disheartening that Martin has called for bringing in "players that have done it before" (ie L1 journeymen, not youth) and the club is yet to return to the previously successful model of buying players with any resale value.

Love it when people complain about abuse by calling people 'scum'. Not very bright in Long Eaton by the looks of it.

Look at it the other way. Epic Mismanagement and repeated mistakes is causing the slow death of your club from Premier League trophy winners to league one dross. There is zero accountability. Rudkin still in situ, the disinterested players that got us here still being picked... What are you supposed to do? Sit on your hands? Clap them off? No. They (the club, the players) need to feel uncomfortable. They need to hear some fury, they need to know that this is unacceptable.

Honestly, just take a look at their forum.

What you are failing to understand is that people are not rushing to judgement after one game it is because he has a recent history that has made him a laughing stock among football fans. We had people from previous clubs queuing up to tell us how bad he is, not that it was needed. That is the reason. Not one game. That and the fact that he is an intractable martyr to unwatchable passive football.

Ask Southampton fans if they think he was a success there. I think they would laugh in your face.

Is everybody that disagrees with you brain dead? Because I think that repeating previous errors and expecting different results and appointing a manager that has failed comically badly, twice in his last two jobs is pretty brain dead. It is perfectly reasonable to despair of Martin's brand of sideways walking football. Personally, I can't stomach it.

Incredibly patronising post this. I think that people on here are quite capable of appreciating the water carriers. They are also quite capable of calling out garbage when they see it.

Challinor has seven promotions on his CV. Hardly bottling it. O'Neill had three top ten premier league finishes and won two trophies. Martin is a parody of a football manager that leaves carnage in his wake

Patience? Fans are at the end of their tether after years of scarcely believable mismanagement. This appointment of a busted flush anti-football manager was yet another insult.

I can't face watching any of last year's clowns trying to play Martin's sideways football, if they were playing in my back garden I'd close the curtains. Happy new season

We've had loads of Martin out posts from day one

It's difficult to argue that Ruud was any better than Cooper, but Cooper sunk us before a ball was kicked by blowing the budget on rubbish like Skipp, Reid and Ayew

That's not really what this is. We know that a food chain exists in football but big clubs raiding promising talent from smaller clubs straight from the academy is a cynical ploy to snatch away the developing club's sell on profit. He won't play for them. If Page had become a regular for us and got to a level where Man Utd might want to sign him to play for them, that is a very different thing.

I think that Leicester, even at its lowest ebb being a much bigger draw than Stockport might well have tempted him. You asked me to name one so I did, but if not him then there are literally 100 options I'd take before Russell f***ing Martin. The rest of the football world is laughing at us. After he fails here, I believe this will be his last chance in league football. He'll end up at Dagenham or somewhere, ike Peter Taylor.

It's bizarre because it is both high risk and zero risk at the same time. High risk - piss around with the ball around your 18 yard box with your worst passers until you lose it. Zero risk - don't take the defence splitting pass, don't pass forwards to create something, pass it sideways or backwards just to keep possession

The one with seven promotions, yes. Being realistic, we are a league one club. so our options are limited, but the vast majority of us have had our fill of this style of football. Martin has failed hard, really hard in his previous jobs, he is a parody of a football manager. It was so predictable that our geniuses upstairs would go for him.

Challinor

I keep reading this idea that Martin will 'learn' from his previous exerience and magically become a good manager. There is zero chance of this. He is, always has been and always will be a sideways zealot. That is his whole identity. If you take that away from him there is nothing left.

You don't need coaching qualifications, none of us are football managers, you simply need to pick a better manager than Russell Martin which I think most of us could comfortably do.