Les-TA-Jon

Was it not kinda the opposite? The model of signing young and upcoming / unknown players and selling them for big profit 2-3 years later was somewhat dismantled under Rodgers. Under Rodgers we began prioritising 'PL experience' - see Perez, Bertrand, Vestergaard type signings - and got a really poor return on investment. Under Rodgers, much of our sports science, physio and analytics departments were gutted and realigned too.

Tweet from a few matches back... He's now basically got the highest loss percentage of any manager (15+ games) in the PL era

Now is not the time to appoint our next permanent manager, nor is it likely the wanted candidates are available/willing to come to the job in the current circumstances What would actually be gained by asking one of the background coaches to step up in the interim? It's possible that sacking RVN once relegation is officially confirmed, could save the club millions

Our worst ever manager? Anyone think of anyone else who might take it?

Right, so, because it’s not zero, that’s a reason they could ‘need’ his sacking to be in the next accounting period

A relegation clause likely means reduced compensation, not zero?

A possibility that we have to wait until after June 30th to sack him? I.e wait until into next accounting period? Surely not though because that would be a month of waiting around after the season is finished?

The 'technically correct' award goes to...

9 points gained by Wolves and/or lost by Leicester and we will be relegated. Earliest we could be relegated is Sunday 13th, if we lose to Newcastle and Brighton and Wolves beat Tottenham.

Which in and of itself speaks volumes to the (lack of) strategic planning and nous at the club. The manager should fit into the culture and strategy, not be the driving force of it. Otherwise, each managerial change (which for a club of our stature occurs every 12-24 months) runs the risk of upending the whole endeavour.

Yeah on this basis, is there any reason we shouldn't be a perpetual top flight mid table side like Everton?

I think it entirely depends on our summer. Last season's bounce back was almost entirely down to the (lucky?) appointment of Maresca. To have similar results we have to make a similarly good managerial appointment and have a great window of ins and outs. Also this time, the squad going down is worse and we have fewer saleable assets

Catching up - has Vardy gone off injured?

So that's: £92.5m loss for period ending June 2022 £89.5m loss for period ending June 2023 £19.4m loss for period ending June 2024 £201.4m loss for 3 year period ending June 2024 So £96.4m over the PSR allowable losses threshold of £105m - but of course you have the various allowable add-backs and player sales etc.

Things like infrastructure, community, women's football, youth development and depreciation of tangible fixed assets all come under "Addbacks" - which are costs you can 'ignore' when it comes to the allowable losses. Seemingly anything that is a profit, is allowed to count as a profit

You specifically said that the PSR rules haven't affected us though - but they simply have For what it's worth, I totally agree that we've been a shambles for a long time. But I just see as a 'both things can be true at once' situation.

Really? Look, we've made terrible managerial appointments and some awful recruitment, never mind the big contracts for subpar players. And we've managed to get relegated twice in 3 years, whilst also breaking or coming close to breaking the rules. But you're telling me that the rules haven't impacted us? in 22/23 we were the only team in the top 5 leagues of Europe to not make a signing, as we tried to follow the rules. (We only signed Faes as a Fofana replacement, late on). In the summer of 2024 we hang the spectre of a points deduction hanging over us, which affected managerial prospects and potential signings. We were desperate for more defenders and a Vardy replacement and didn't get either.

At this point, what exactly is he meant to say in a press conference?

This is good but I think some of the players you have as possible sales will be much harder to shift. I can't see how anyone will pay £8-10m for VK, for example. Or £6m+ for Faes.

I don't particularly disagree. But what if sacking him now costs the club £Xm, but sacking him later costs £X-Ym and the club believe we're down either way, then they're obviously looking to save £££. Maybe PSR even means we need to Obviously if that is the situation, it's more evidence for the shambles that is the board/running of the club - but it is a reason to keep RVN.

How many times must it be explained? We don't know much about the club's accounting/PSR situation or RVN's contract. Obviously any manager presiding over such terrible results 'should' be sacked. But most people seem to want him sacked as a punitive form of catharsis. But what does that actually achieve right now? We are 95% down anyway Sacking him now, leaves us with even less experienced hodge podge of coaches in charge The club will likely not be in a position to appoint the next permanent manager now / before the season ends Even if they were, we don't want the next guy tainted with this season or going into next season with terrible results/form Maybe the club can't 'afford' to sack RVN in this accounting period? Maybe we have a break clause or much reduced compensation in RVN's contract if relegation is confirmed?

Probably only a max of 9 more games for us. Only 4 more possible home games, the latter half of which could play out with relegation already confirmed. A sad end. He and the club really need to (publicly) decide if he's renewing or not, in the next few weeks, so that if he isn't, we can give him the send off he deserves.

Didn't Arsenal make an official approach?

You're missing a key piece of this - why would Rohl want us over Southampton? We're in a right state - Southampton are in much better shape than us - they can probably make £100m from player sales this summer. Isn't there someone high up at Southampton who worked with Rohl in the past too?

£5m, rising to £8m if we stay up. Saved ourselves £3m by being relegated