Les-TA-Jon

I felt worse in 2007. I felt way worse than this with the DEENEY moment. But this situation is way worse than anything - this is the lowest point in the club's history and the most in trouble the club has ever been in.

Other than Fatawu I struggle to see how we avoid losses trying to get these out of the door.

Other than Fatawu I struggle to see how we avoid huge losses on getting some of these players gone...

Rules breakdown here: The challenge is we can't make a bunch of 'PSR losses' because they 'don't count' in League One - because if we get promoted to the Championship we'll be under PSR rules again.

It honestly seems like he doesn't really do any work for the club whilst he's not in the country? Why couldn't a similar message have been written and communicated back at the start of Rowett's tenure? Or ahead of the QPR game? Why wait until now, when our fate is all but sealed?

Disagree - I want to see 90 mins from all our worst/most toxic players tonight - so they have to slog through a humiliating defeat and the horrible atmosphere and be there on the pitch to take some 'feedback' from the crowd.

Yes because 3 wins puts us on 50pts and Charlton (50), West Brom (49) and Blackburn (49) already have almost that many. to stay up we have to win all 3 remaining games and have multiple other results go in our favour - at the very least those 3 rival teams would need to remain winless, with West Brom and Blackburn needing to lose 2 and draw 1 (at most) We could get relegated on 4 separate days this week, depending on various results. But what's most likely is we lose tonight and that's that.

There been a press conference for this yet?

Spoiler alert for our next journey under KPFC: Canned response from the club, with conspicuous lack of the R word, promising a review and improvements going forward Spend first half of the summer figuring out who the heck to appoint - with no consensus on what kind of manager we need, then appoint the 3rd or 4th choice / whoever is desperate enough to take over this basket case Meanwhile conduct firesale of anyone worth more than a couple of quid, getting depressingly low amounts for our 'best' players and struggling to move on players with longer contracts (Kristiansen, Mavididi, Souttar, Okoli, Skipp) Promote far too many youth players (prematurely) out of necessity, just to make up the numbers Sign a few players on frees and loans in the last week of the window Manager and club say all the right things about 'resetting' the 'culture and mentality' Some OK results in opening weeks, then regress back to being crap. Nov hear rumblings of new EFL charge/points deductions/cost plans Dec/Jan results are poor and manager should go but club delays making a decision Results now so bad they have to make a change, but they have no plan in place for a replacement. Waste 2-4 fixtures with an under-qualified caretakers. Appoint someone who is no better or even worse than the outgoing manager Finish mid-table or worse depending on if EFL can get punishments to stick

Exactly. I see this kind of thing said in all sorts of online communities - for various different points of interest - and it always makes my eyes roll into the back of my head. It's just totally redundant and pointless 'analysis' Of course there are much more important things in life to worry about that the current state of your chosen football team, but of all the places to discuss those worries, a forum set up to specifically set up to talk about said football club is the place to do it!

Is there any evidence to suggest that was specifically due to relegation to League One, rather than simply a result of adequate to good stewardship of the respective clubs? Birmingham owners are far more ambitious and organised than KPFC for example.

It was imperative we didn't get relegated to League One - and look at how well the club has managed that. There's virtually no relationship between what the club needs and what the powers that be do about it.

A lot of media reporting is still missing any attempt at setting Leicester's plight into a wider context. It's largely reported as a 'Leicester back where they belong' or 'just part of the natural cycle of football' narrative. But this is not 'just part of football' for this club. We have only been in the 3rd division for 1 year out of 142 in the entire club’s history. We have won the 2nd division more than anyone else. We have been promoted to the 1st division more than anyone else. We have spent about 45% of our history in the top flight. We have only ever been in the relegation zone of the 2nd division three times in our history. We have never had a points deduction We have never had a double relegation To be in the 3rd division is not normal for this club. To be there with the biggest wage bill in the division is crazy. To be there after an incredibly sharp decline, from the greatest position of strength the club has ever had, is unthinkable.

Sure. Anyone's competence at the high end of the club is only as good as Top and Rudkin's ability to let them work - which I imagine is overruled quite a lot...

Kevin Davies was only actually Finance Director at LCFC since May 2023 - before that it was Simon Capper - who has subsequently gone onto Newcastle (so can't be too bad surely?) Based on the evidence given to independent commissions for the points deductions - Kevin Davies appears to have been trying to rein things in since his appointment. Jan 2024 window a potential sign of that.

They’re between a rock and a hard place I guess. Don’t recognise it at all and get pelters

If Top sacked Rudkin - who's in charge of replacing him? Top is. So it's no solution because they'll just appoint someone else who is crap.

Er guys...I'm not attacking JJ himself. Merely saying his comments suggest the (largely agree upon amongst us) problems with the mentality of the squad. And just because I'm saying he shouldn't have said X doesn't mean I think he should have said the opposite of X

Agree - my main problem with it was "The players we have got are Premier League players" Sorta betrays the idea that the squad thought 'we'll be OK' and where did they even get the idea that we had a ton of 'PL players' anyway? Just because you've played in the league doesn't mean you're actually of that quality. Other than an in form Fatawu, we don't have a single 'PL quality' player in the squad.

This. The club keeps making the same mistakes again and again. delay sacking a manager. Then do so, with no plan on the replacement. Waste vital games with an under-qualified caretaker, then appoint someone who isn’t even better than the predecessor. it’s happened with 3 out of the last 4 changes: Rodgers > Smith Cooper > RVN Cifuentes > Rowett

Just to play devil’s advocate - which part of this opinion is incompatible with “King Power Out”? (I’m not saying that specific person is King Power Out)

Didn’t realise West Brom were winning. And does depend on them winning their game.

Don’t think this is possible with Blackburn’s draw and Oxford’s loss?

Worst season in the club’s history, surely?

Rowett hasn’t worked. But I’d still have Top, Rudkin and the players above him in the blame game