lush Posted 2 September 2005 Posted 2 September 2005 I can't understand how anyone could drop Joey based on this season's performances either I`d drop joey or anyone else for someone better, thats just common sense. I think joey and williams have improved since april, but together there never going to guide us to promotion. The great thing compared to last season is, in midfield atleast, we have great strength in depth, and if we need a change, we can change all 4 and have atleast what we had last season.
lush Posted 2 September 2005 Posted 2 September 2005 Well this thread has certainly provoked a multitude of different responses which really emphasises what a tricky job picking the team is it's going to be for the manager. Just remember how tricky when you complain
Gené and Tonic Posted 2 September 2005 Posted 2 September 2005 Must say I hadn't considered Sheehan for left-back (probably cos he seemed to be around when the team he was playing in was conceding too many goals). Didn't he only play once, and we got a 0-0 draw?
Thracian Posted 2 September 2005 Author Posted 2 September 2005 Didn't he only play once, and we got a 0-0 draw? I think he was there when the reserves lost six and in Norway when we lost 5? I did say the team he was playing in - not necessarily the first team. Even so he might have been a good player in a poor side, He just seemed to fall out of the picture after the reserves defeat and I'd forgotten him as an option. How good is he in reality? Any views.
Scow Posted 2 September 2005 Posted 2 September 2005 I think he was there when the reserves lost six and in Norway when we lost 5? I did say the team he was playing in - not necessarily the first team. Even so he might have been a good player in a poor side, He just seemed to fall out of the picture after the reserves defeat and I'd forgotten him as an option. How good is he in reality? Any views. I've seen him play for the reserves a number of times, and also witnessed his performance down at Plymouth. To me, he seems a player with potential, who could become an accomplished player at left back. He's fairly quick and good in the tackle. He can also get forward and has an excellent cross on him. He looks a better prospect than Gilbert, but maybe that's unfair to judge at this stage as he's evidently not match fit.
Cobbo Posted 2 September 2005 Posted 2 September 2005 So you'd drop Joey, who's arguably been our most consistent player this season, for Kisnorbo 'who sounds good'? Are you going on Joey 'sounding good' here?
lush Posted 2 September 2005 Posted 2 September 2005 How good is he in reality? Any views. He was MOTM (or boy ) at kettering. He did really well against celtic, and he was good enough for first team action before that, so where is he craig? I think im a decent judge, and i say hes our best LB.
Vo Rogue Posted 2 September 2005 Posted 2 September 2005 He was MOTM (or boy ) at kettering. He did really well against celtic, and he was good enough for first team action before that, so where is he craig? I think im a decent judge, and i say hes our best LB. Possibly done something to ruffle management??
Anish Posted 3 September 2005 Posted 3 September 2005 He was MOTM (or boy ) at kettering. He did really well against celtic, and he was good enough for first team action before that, so where is he craig? I think im a decent judge, and i say hes our best LB. We all think we are decent judges when it comes to football, but we'll never be able to prove it sadly
davieG Posted 3 September 2005 Posted 3 September 2005 We all think we are decent judges when it comes to football, but we'll never be able to prove it sadly I don't know judging from some comments its probably just as well
Gamesmaster Posted 3 September 2005 Posted 3 September 2005 I don't know judging from some comments its probably just as well its nice to know some are honest about their selves did i say that, who, me? nooo you got the wrong man
shen Posted 3 September 2005 Posted 3 September 2005 Are you going on Joey 'sounding good' here? Well that's what you lot are saying, and what your ratings are showing so yes.
lush Posted 3 September 2005 Posted 3 September 2005 Possibly done something to ruffle management?? Be better than the LB (gilbert) who CL thinks is better perhaps?
Cobbo Posted 3 September 2005 Posted 3 September 2005 Well that's what you lot are saying, and what your ratings are showing so yes. So you can't really hold any kind of argument against BenFilbert then...
TAFKA Castroneves Posted 4 September 2005 Posted 4 September 2005 (4-4-2): ----------------------Douglas----------------------- ------------------------------------------------------ --Maybury--Johansson--Gerrbrand--Sheehan-- ------------------------------------------------------ --Hammil-----Hughes---Gudjonsson---Wilcox--- ------------------------------------------------------ ----------------Hume------------------------------- ---------------------------Hammond--------------- Bench: Henderson, Stearman, Kisnorbo, Williams & De Vries :- Sheehan has definatly been overlooked this season and deserves to get the left back starting role, Stearman meanwhile has been great - but I would still just put Maybury ahead of him down the right. Gerrbrand and Johansson have potential to be strong in the middle of defense. Sylla hasn't really shown much recently after a good start so I'd place Hammil down the right to give more of what he has seemingly done so far. Hughes when back to full fitness will be more of a handfull than Williams, while Joey deserves at the moment to keep his place. Wilcox down the left due to what I saw he could do alongside Sheehan more than anything, they worked well together...and then Hume just behind Hammond upfront. Difficult to choose a team for me actually, Tiatto, Dublin, McCarthy and Sylla all miss the bench here.
Gené and Tonic Posted 4 September 2005 Posted 4 September 2005 That's a good line up, and well analysed. But Levein seems very attatched to Tiatto and Sylla, I think he does rate Sheehan, but maybe think he is not ready yet (which he found out with Gilbert). So I doubt we'll see that line very often if even at all. But overall, I wouldn't make any change to that line up.
cisono Posted 4 September 2005 Posted 4 September 2005 Difficult to choose a team for me actually, Tiatto, Dublin, McCarthy and Sylla all miss the bench here. I think this is unlikely (although your lineup does have its merits)
AyewJoking Posted 4 September 2005 Posted 4 September 2005 I dont know what would be the best team, there have been a lot of starting line ups but they've all fu cked up somewhere along the way.
Lester LXXIV Posted 4 September 2005 Posted 4 September 2005 Douglas Maybury Macarthy Dublin Nissa Kisnorbo Williams Tiatto Hume Hammond MDV
shen Posted 5 September 2005 Posted 5 September 2005 So you can't really hold any kind of argument against BenFilbert then... I was asking him why he wanted to replace someone who's widely agreed on being one of the best performers so far, with someone who hasn't played yet, and really comes with a mixed reputation from Hearts.
Anish Posted 5 September 2005 Posted 5 September 2005 I was asking him why he wanted to replace someone who's widely agreed on being one of the best performers so far, with someone who hasn't played yet, and really comes with a mixed reputation from Hearts. ...and I for one agree with you. I would be appalled, make that disgusted, if Kisnorbo comes straight into the team in place of Gudjonsson after Joey's performances this season.
STUHILL Posted 5 September 2005 Posted 5 September 2005 Ok my line-up, a bit experimental at the back, but could work i think. --------------------------------Henderson------------------------ ---Stearman------Gerrbrannd------Johansson---------Sheehan ---Hughes---------Gudjonsson----Williams------------Hamill --------------------Hume------------Hammond------------- No maybury i know but i really do think Stearman offers more in every department apart from experience obviously and maybury at LB just doesn't work for me. No Douglas as well and even tho he gets a load of stick i still rate him but i've heard Henderson is a real talent! Kisnorbo is another one left out, purely because of joeys performances this season and long may they continue! No MDV upfront who i also quite rate but it annoys me for someone that tall to not win headers and i know he is good at other things but having two fast strikers is best option i think. No Sylla because doesn't seem interested anymore and had so much promise when signed. No Wilcox, doesn't track back to defend. No McCarthy because gives away too many silly freekicks! No Gilbert, a lot to learn, always looks nervous. Young, unexperienced side BUT potential is there, could crash and burn and would never expect CL to try it in near future, just a thought anyway!
lush Posted 5 September 2005 Posted 5 September 2005 ...and I for one agree with you. I would be appalled, make that disgusted, if Kisnorbo comes straight into the team in place of Gudjonsson after Joey's performances this season. Even if kisnorbo is a better player?
Anish Posted 5 September 2005 Posted 5 September 2005 Even if kisnorbo is a better player? Yes, even if Kisnorbo is a better player (which I doubt judging from the comments of various Hearts fans). Joey has been our most consistent midfielder this season and no way deserves to be dropped. I am a firm believer that if a player is playing well then you shouldn't drop him even if a supposedly better player comes back to fitness.
BenFilbert Posted 5 September 2005 Posted 5 September 2005 So you'd drop Joey, who's arguably been our most consistent player this season, for Kisnorbo 'who sounds good'? It's my opinion of the team and it's also my opinion that Joey isn't good enough. If Kisnorbo is good then he's better than Joey, in my opinion.
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