EnglishOxide Posted 8 December 2016 Posted 8 December 2016 It's a slap in the face to the owners isn't it? They've looked after the players in every single way, gave them huge rises, brand new cars, free holidays and they aren't repaying that good will with 100% focus and commitment. I wish we had taken the money for Schluup, Ulloa, Mahrez and Vardy and just done a huge rebuild with a fresh mentality.
Lcfcwigstonblue Posted 8 December 2016 Posted 8 December 2016 Why are people ridiculing Roy Keane, he was asked a question on ITV is he meant to ignore it?
Guest Col city fan Posted 8 December 2016 Posted 8 December 2016 57 minutes ago, purpleronnie said: No, his last album was rubbish. 'This is the last time' I'm reading this thread....
Guest Col city fan Posted 8 December 2016 Posted 8 December 2016 1 minute ago, Lcfcwigstonblue said: Why are people ridiculing Roy Keane, he was asked a question on ITV is he meant to ignore it? Because it's FT and it's cool to do so. Innit?
LJS Posted 8 December 2016 Posted 8 December 2016 Roy Keane is exactly right and the most perceptive bit in there is his assertion that it isn't that the players aren't trying. I'm certain they are going out there and trying their best, but mentally the edge will have gone. That's not about commitment. That's about last season being utterly outrageous. I understand it as I'm feeling it as a supporter. You want your team to go out there and win but the consequences if not doing so feel so much less severe than they would have last season when we had everything to lose. What do we have to lose this season? A place in the Premier League? We can get that back. Last season's opportunity was never coming back again.
Argarath Posted 8 December 2016 Posted 8 December 2016 Not really a big fan of Keane but have to agree the huge payrise might be the a reason for some players lazyness
Kendal Fox Posted 8 December 2016 Posted 8 December 2016 He's obviously right about the sudden jump in wages, but at the same time he doesn't acknowledge that the players' agents had the club by the balls with regards to the threat of going to bigger clubs, for even bigger bucks if they didn't get their own way. I also think it's a collective of this, The Mendy injury (thought he was starting to come on vs Arsenal) and some poor signings..
foxinsocks Posted 8 December 2016 Posted 8 December 2016 I presume keane makes money from stating the obvious. He has no more insight than any of us. We are rightly focussing on trying to sort our pl performances out.... and to do so we had to accept last night. What the team and manager now need to show is that they have fixed the issues that have hampered us.... the next 3 or 4 week s are key. High pressing to reduce the qualty of oposition passes into mid field. Okizaki providing a short out ball and engaging with mahrez.... who must cross early to avoid traffic. Musa on left. Safety first at back and to be first to the first ball snd the second when defending corners (schlupp held on yo the player when he could have got to the ball!). Mendy or amarty.... not king. We will have to put up with keane.... but if we can turn our pl performance round it will be worth it
GaelicFox Posted 8 December 2016 Posted 8 December 2016 2 hours ago, Lcfcwigstonblue said: Why are people ridiculing Roy Keane, he was asked a question on ITV is he meant to ignore it? Cos they are lemmings , the question was valid the answer was perfect for the wider TV audience , and he was spot on in is appraisal of the situation
l444ry Posted 8 December 2016 Posted 8 December 2016 Robbie Savage gets slated for saying a sense of perspective is in order. Roy Keane gets slated for saying the opposite. Talk about shooting the messenger!
okie fox Posted 8 December 2016 Posted 8 December 2016 Roy Keane knows all about destroying teams. He did it in Ipswich!
Tielemans63 Posted 8 December 2016 Posted 8 December 2016 I am not someone who wants to see Ranieri get the boot but he gets off too lightly here. Keane is right to say that the players have lost their desire not to lose but I also think, when you're asked to keep playing in a system that once worked but now doesn't, there must be an element of 'you're setting us up to fail here boss' and that must be demotivating. That's the same whatever job you do, if you're asked to persist with a system that isn't working then it tends to breed negativity and you don't get 100% out of your staff. I am absolutely amazed that CR hasn't even tried to change the system / try something different. As I say, I'm not one of these who likes to see the manager fail but it comes to something when we can all see where we're going wrong game after game (even before a game!) and yet a guy getting paid a fortune is failing to address those problems and seems to have resorted to hoping for the best. It's not all down to recruitment either, there are few formations we could adapt to with our current squad but there's no attempt to. Bizarre.
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