lush Posted 17 October 2005 Posted 17 October 2005 oh per-lease!! Alex I am surprised at you old chap! YES Bush is a canute, and made a war for his own ends but NO to conspiracy!! I think 9/11 conspiracy theorists are just anti-bush. Hes still the biggest world economies leader, has right wing ideology and people dont like that. Taking that into account, "blowing up" the WTC would`ve cost the US millions in lost revenue on the stock market. Tourism has been severley affected from 9/11. I get almost begging enquiries to fly over there by american tourism, even 4 years later. If bush new about it, why did he look so stuned when he was told. And the idea that bush is a nazi, i wonder what condaleeza rice and colin powell think of that
MC Prussian Posted 17 October 2005 Author Posted 17 October 2005 I didn't say Bush knew about the attacks. He just claimed to have seen TV footage of the first impact that never existed. I would like all you doubters to watch that DVD and then decide. Unless you're not on the same level as I am, there is no point in accusing me of spreading conspiracy theories. The events surrounding the Pentagon Attack clearly indicate that the White House as well as the American Intelligence was lying to the public and that the (American) media easily gave in to those lies. The majority of you reply to the WTC attacks, but nobody tries to discuss the events that shattered the Pentagon and the very, very dubious circumstances concerning Flight 93 that was, as we were told, "brought down" in a field in Pennsylvania. It is possible to give 200 people a new identity. And again, there were witnesses who described the planes as "non-commercial". Firefighters heard controlled explosions within the towers. As for you people who doubt the military airplanes, again, watch the DVD and see the footage from several TV stations that show exactly the same. And no, I'm fine. No need to doubt me, Janx. You old mucker.
lush Posted 17 October 2005 Posted 17 October 2005 I didn't say Bush knew about the attacks. He just claimed to have seen TV footage of the first impact that never existed. I would like all you doubters to watch that DVD and then decide. Im sure to regret this he claimed to have seen footage that never existed, how can that be? Hey swisspiss, i`ll watch the dvd, provide your link?
MC Prussian Posted 17 October 2005 Author Posted 17 October 2005 Im sure to regret this he claimed to have seen footage that never existed, how can that be? Hey swisspiss, i`ll watch the dvd, provide your link? Watch the DVD. Information is provided on the first page of this thread. I'm sure you know how to use programs like Kazaa or EMule. President Bush was asked by a student during a school visit how he felt about the attacks. He gave the above answer. It is protocolled on tape. This has always been a very dubious behaviour and George W Bush has never denied having made that statement. And I would never accuse Bush of making the decision of killing innocent citizens. It was not his own plan (C'mon, that President has as much air in his head as a package of chips), but he had to approve it.
The People's Hero Posted 17 October 2005 Posted 17 October 2005 Thanks! And whilst we're in a complimentary mood, may I comment on your amazing powers of imagination?
MC Prussian Posted 17 October 2005 Author Posted 17 October 2005 Thanks! And whilst we're in a complimentary mood, may I comment on your amazing powers of imagination? No need for flattery. May I suggest you watching the DVD?
Gamesmaster Posted 17 October 2005 Posted 17 October 2005 swissfox, im loading that film you mention, will take a few days tho its so big cuckoo
Hullfox Posted 17 October 2005 Posted 17 October 2005 Firefighters heard controlled explosions within the towers. Swiss, how do you distinguish between the sound of a controlled explosion and an uncontrolled explosion?
Gamesmaster Posted 17 October 2005 Posted 17 October 2005 rare footage from within the WTC on september 9th 2001
Daniel Posted 17 October 2005 Posted 17 October 2005 rare footage from within the WTC on september 9th 2001 Good find mate, interesting!
Rincewind Posted 18 October 2005 Posted 18 October 2005 Swiss keeps saying watch the footage. I have a feeling there may be something in it that has been missed and will resolve this debate once and for all. I don't know what it is, maybe something in the background. I'm not observant enough in this kind of thing. There have been many conspiracy theories over the years, The Holocaust, aliens landing, communists watching every move an American makes, JFK, and the moon landing are a few. All these have had evidence of one form or another put forward to counter the official stories. Some of the evidence has been very good. So good in fact that it has convinced a lot of people whom would not normally dispute the official story. There will always be those however that will think that every abnormal event that requires an inquiry has some Government conspiracy behind it if they disagree with the result. I don't go with Swiss's 9/11 thing. Sorry Swiss you are a very intellegent fella and all your previous arguments have been sound, but not even a Hollywood director would go with a storyline such as this for their next blockbuster.
IDEA OR IKEA Posted 18 October 2005 Posted 18 October 2005 Swiss keeps saying watch the footage. I have a feeling there may be something in it that has been missed and will resolve this debate once and for all. I don't know what it is, maybe something in the background. I'm not observant enough in this kind of thing. There have been many conspiracy theories over the years, The Holocaust, aliens landing, communists watching every move an American makes, JFK, and the moon landing are a few. All these have had evidence of one form or another put forward to counter the official stories. Some of the evidence has been very good. So good in fact that it has convinced a lot of people whom would not normally dispute the official story. There will always be those however that will think that every abnormal event that requires an inquiry has some Government conspiracy behind it if they disagree with the result. I don't go with Swiss's 9/11 thing. Sorry Swiss you are a very intellegent fella and all your previous arguments have been sound, but not even a Hollywood director would go with a storyline such as this for their next blockbuster. Well put, the whole point is conspiracy theories will never be proven and subsequently remain interesting - there is one behind most controversal stories or events.
Ric Flair Posted 18 October 2005 Posted 18 October 2005 Well if the people on those planes and their families are sick enough to pretend to be onboard of those planes then what's the world coming to? I just find that incredibly hard to believe, one of the those families or one of the alledged deceased would have let something slip by now and every journalist worth their salt would be on to it like a shot. The other stuff about the Pentagon and the plane in Pennsylvania could well be a cover up, I always did think that sounded abit supsect and there wasn't as much said about it at the time. I'll try and watch the dvd as it does intrigue me, but I still doubt those planes were passengerless when they hit the WTC and I also doubt that the pilots didn't exist.
Fez of Mahrez Posted 18 October 2005 Posted 18 October 2005 Back and to the left. By the way, what is it precisely that George Bush has said or done that has convinced you that he is capable of masterminding an operation of such devilish trickery and intricacy on a scale never seen before and sure never to be rivalled? Or maybe it was one of his advisers!! "George, we know you've wanted to invade Iraq for a long time now..." "Well hot diggity damn sho' I have, pardner!" "Okay, here's the plan. We get a few military aircraft, fly a couple of them into the World Trade Center, bomb the Pentagon and then crash a plane into a field in Cleveland, killing over 2,000 people, the majority of whom will be American citizens and causing heartache and pain to not only friends and relatives of the deceased but the world as a whole really. The global economy will be shattered, it will take years to recover from it. Then you can go and bomb Iraq a few years later." "Hey, that ain't such a bad idea, cowboy!" I know, I know. Watch the DVD. Christ...
Rincewind Posted 18 October 2005 Posted 18 October 2005 I want to know why lush didn't post it first?
MC Prussian Posted 18 October 2005 Author Posted 18 October 2005 Swiss, how do you distinguish between the sound of a controlled explosion and an uncontrolled explosion? That's what they say on the DVD.
MC Prussian Posted 18 October 2005 Author Posted 18 October 2005 rare footage from within the WTC on september 9th 2001 This only supports the things I have seen on the DVD. (Looking at the blown-out windows in the entry hall:)"Damage was already done." Says it all.
MC Prussian Posted 18 October 2005 Author Posted 18 October 2005 Back and to the left. By the way, what is it precisely that George Bush has said or done that has convinced you that he is capable of masterminding an operation of such devilish trickery and intricacy on a scale never seen before and sure never to be rivalled? Or maybe it was one of his advisers!! "George, we know you've wanted to invade Iraq for a long time now..." "Well hot diggity damn sho' I have, pardner!" "Okay, here's the plan. We get a few military aircraft, fly a couple of them into the World Trade Center, bomb the Pentagon and then crash a plane into a field in Cleveland, killing over 2,000 people, the majority of whom will be American citizens and causing heartache and pain to not only friends and relatives of the deceased but the world as a whole really. The global economy will be shattered, it will take years to recover from it. Then you can go and bomb Iraq a few years later." "Hey, that ain't such a bad idea, cowboy!" I know, I know. Watch the DVD. Christ... I know you're trying to be funny. It's not quite working (yet). And again, I never said Bush killed those innocent people inside the towers. It was a well-planned action by the American Government, Intelligence and Military. George Walker Bush only represents that Government. I doubt he has anything to say at all. Decisions are made in secret beforehand and he is the one to read them in public.
MC Prussian Posted 18 October 2005 Author Posted 18 October 2005 Swiss keeps saying watch the footage. I have a feeling there may be something in it that has been missed and will resolve this debate once and for all. I don't know what it is, maybe something in the background. I'm not observant enough in this kind of thing. There have been many conspiracy theories over the years, The Holocaust, aliens landing, communists watching every move an American makes, JFK, and the moon landing are a few. All these have had evidence of one form or another put forward to counter the official stories. Some of the evidence has been very good. So good in fact that it has convinced a lot of people whom would not normally dispute the official story. There will always be those however that will think that every abnormal event that requires an inquiry has some Government conspiracy behind it if they disagree with the result. I don't go with Swiss's 9/11 thing. Sorry Swiss you are a very intellegent fella and all your previous arguments have been sound, but not even a Hollywood director would go with a storyline such as this for their next blockbuster. Now you're labelling me twice, Ken. I am neither a conspiracy theory wacko (there is enough proof that the White House lied to the World public) nor a Hollywood director (I doubt that I'll ever become one, that's not the way I see my future).
Head Honcho Posted 18 October 2005 Posted 18 October 2005 I know we are all entitled to our opinions and i respect that but if you think this was anything more then a Terrorist attack then please seek medical attention. Your Potty!
MC Prussian Posted 18 October 2005 Author Posted 18 October 2005 That was probably the fuel tanks Nope. The explosions occured BEFORE the planes hit the towers.
Fez of Mahrez Posted 18 October 2005 Posted 18 October 2005 And again, I never said Bush killed those innocent people inside the towers. It was a well-planned action by the American Government, Intelligence and Military. George Walker Bush only represents that Government. I doubt he has anything to say at all. Decisions are made in secret beforehand and he is the one to read them in public. Regardless of whether you think it is Bush who makes the decisions or someone else, my point still stands. You think this is a more realistic explanation for the events on 11th September 2001 than the generally held belief?
MC Prussian Posted 18 October 2005 Author Posted 18 October 2005 Regardless of whether you think it is Bush who makes the decisions or someone else, my point still stands. You think this is a more realistic explanation for the events on 11th September 2001 than the generally held belief? After seeing the footage, I very much doubt the story that everybody was told by the American Government and the American media. I don't understand how you can hold on to lies and ridicule others just for bringing up various valid points that favour a conspiracy. Europeans are much more critical when it comes to analyzing the attacks and even a large portion of the American population doesn't trust their government any longer. Don't you think the families of the victims deserve an honest explanation about what really happened that morning?
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