Gamesmaster Posted 16 October 2005 Posted 16 October 2005 i know billy, what ben, lets build a banana boat, ok ben
MC Prussian Posted 16 October 2005 Author Posted 16 October 2005 SwissFox your deluded I suggest you watch the footage first and then think about your comment again. There were witnesses who described the planes as "non-commercial". The pictures of the planes are archive footage and available through numerous TV stations. They all show the same. They clearly indicate that the planes had missiles attached to their lower body. The hole in the Pentagon is too small to be caused by an airplane and there was no debree. Several firefighters heard numerous detonations WITHIN the twin towers, shortly after the planes hit the towers. It appears as if the explosions were forced, the buildings "pulled down". According to a local Cleveland TV station, the plane that we were told was brought down in a field in Pennsylvania had an emergency landing at Cleveland airport due to a bomb threat. So what was the thing that was brought down exactly? Another plane? A missile? Some of you just don't want to think about it anymore. Instead, you rather stay in a state of denial and accuse others as dillusionary. Watch the movie and ask yourself: With all this evidence, couldn't it really be a conspiracy within the American government/military? "In Plane Site" raises a lot of worthy questions.
davieG Posted 16 October 2005 Posted 16 October 2005 I suggest you watch the footage first and then think about your comment again. There were witnesses who described the planes as "non-commercial". The pictures of the planes are archive footage and available through numerous TV stations. They all show the same. They clearly indicate that the planes had missiles attached to their lower body. The hole in the Pentagon is too small to be caused by an airplane and there was no debree. Several firefighters heard numerous detonations WITHIN the twin towers, shortly after the planes hit the towers. It appears as if the explosions were forced, the buildings "pulled down". According to a local Cleveland TV station, the plane that we were told was brought down in a field in Pennsylvania had an emergency landing at Cleveland airport due to a bomb threat. So what was the thing that was brought down exactly? Another plane? A missile? Some of you just don't want to think about it anymore. Instead, you rather stay in a state of denial. Watch the movie and ask yourself: With all this evidence, couldn't it really be a conspiracy within the American government/military? How do you know whether the people behind the conspiracy theory aren't playing that game themselve?. They could be conspiring to bring down the USA government, You're assuming that the 'evidence' provided is genuine. How can you be sure it's any more genuine than the official 'evidence' you're happy to consider to be doctored/false?.
MC Prussian Posted 16 October 2005 Author Posted 16 October 2005 How do you know whether the people behind the conspiracy theory aren't playing that game themselve?. They could be conspiring to bring down the USA government, You're assuming that the 'evidence' provided is genuine. How can you be sure it's any more genuine than the official 'evidence' you're happy to consider to be doctored/false?. Again, people's minds are biased since the attacks. There is no conspiracy theory, it is a conspiracy.
davieG Posted 16 October 2005 Posted 16 October 2005 Again, people's minds are biased since the attacks. There is no conspiracy theory, it is a conspiracy. You cannot be 100% sure that the evidence you're seeing is any more genuine than the official evidence. I'm not denying either, I retain an open mind and believe only what I personally see everything else is hearsay. Evidence is so easily doctored.
MC Prussian Posted 16 October 2005 Author Posted 16 October 2005 You cannot be 100% sure that the evidence you're seeing is any more genuine than the official evidence. I'm not denying either, I retain an open mind and believe only what I personally see everything else is hearsay. Evidence is so easily doctored. Agreed. Would you agree to watch "In Plane Site" if you had the chance?
Gené and Tonic Posted 16 October 2005 Posted 16 October 2005 What? Have you seen footage from inside the plane then or something?
Thracian Posted 16 October 2005 Posted 16 October 2005 I suggest you watch the footage first and then think about your comment again. There were witnesses who described the planes as "non-commercial". The pictures of the planes are archive footage and available through numerous TV stations. They all show the same. They clearly indicate that the planes had missiles attached to their lower body. The hole in the Pentagon is too small to be caused by an airplane and there was no debree. Several firefighters heard numerous detonations WITHIN the twin towers, shortly after the planes hit the towers. It appears as if the explosions were forced, the buildings "pulled down". According to a local Cleveland TV station, the plane that we were told was brought down in a field in Pennsylvania had an emergency landing at Cleveland airport due to a bomb threat. So what was the thing that was brought down exactly? Another plane? A missile? Some of you just don't want to think about it anymore. Instead, you rather stay in a state of denial and accuse others as dillusionary. Watch the movie and ask yourself: With all this evidence, couldn't it really be a conspiracy within the American government/military? "In Plane Site" raises a lot of worthy questions. I like to keep an open mind on everything but ...you've still not answered the question. What about the A-Q admission?
Thracian Posted 16 October 2005 Posted 16 October 2005 Again, people's minds are biased since the attacks. There is no conspiracy theory, it is a conspiracy. Is it you that is really biased? Do you have an open mind about America or about George Bush? Or do you have an axe to grind? Why not level with people?
Gamesmaster Posted 16 October 2005 Posted 16 October 2005 Some of you just don't want to think about it anymore. Instead, you rather stay in a state of denial and accuse others as dillusionary. Watch the movie and ask yourself: With all this evidence, couldn't it really be a conspiracy within the American government/military? "In Plane Site" raises a lot of worthy questions. ive watched the "martial law" parts 1 2 3, and there is something in the heat theory of the steel, but accussing us of denial is ignorance. if you have the movie, upload it? im certainly not going to buy a conspiracy theory, when al qieda admit doing it.
Northants Fox Posted 16 October 2005 Posted 16 October 2005 ive watched the "martial law" parts 1 2 3, and there is something in the heat theory of the steel, but accussing us of denial is ignorance. if you have the movie, upload it? im certainly not going to buy a conspiracy theory, when al qieda admit doing it. Neither am i, as i said earlier in this thread you can't change the appearence of an aircraft and you most certanly can't change the sound it makes.
New England Fox Posted 17 October 2005 Posted 17 October 2005 Swiss Fox if you REALLY believe that George Bush would willingly kill thousands of American citizens, cause massive damage to both America's and the Worlds economy JUST so he had an excuse to invade Afghanistan and Iraq then I suggest you seek professional help, because you truly are deluded.
Leicester_Mad Posted 17 October 2005 Posted 17 October 2005 Swiss Fox if you REALLY believe that George Bush would willingly kill thousands of American citizens, cause massive damage to both America's and the Worlds economy JUST so he had an excuse to invade Afghanistan and Iraq then I suggest you seek professional help, because you truly are deluded. exactly what i was trying to say - hes a **** willy puller at times but by no means would he do anything like this to his own people
Rincewind Posted 17 October 2005 Posted 17 October 2005 It is my theory that Swissfox was just demonstrating the power of conspiracy theories. There are many floating about in this country too, in which some people have believed recently, no matter what evidence was put forward to the contrary. If someones views are so strong in one direction and they see a story which supports theses views, however ridiculous they are, then they will want to tell the world and no amount of constructive argument will stop them believing the story. There will always be people looking for alternatives when official findings are issued to the public after events such as 9/11, the Kennedy assassination and the Holocaust. The list is endless. It is also my theory that I may have spoilt the thread now.
IDEA OR IKEA Posted 17 October 2005 Posted 17 October 2005 Only just looked at this tread and so may have missed this point but one question:- If the planes did have missiles on them/where military planes remote controled etc. what happened to all the people who said bye to their families and boarded a plane that morning not to returen - are they in on it too and have new identities!!!!!
MADLEVEIN Posted 17 October 2005 Posted 17 October 2005 ive seen a couple of these programmes and one thing that hasnt been mentioned is months before the attacks took place the government took out a massive insurance policy on the towers in case of a terrorist attack. i dont necessarily believe these theorys but they do throw up some intresting questions. the pentagon strike flash programme on sign of the times is quite good.
Guest Posted 17 October 2005 Posted 17 October 2005 Maybe Al-Qaeda and Bush plotted together? I'm sorry Alex, but I'm with Davieg on this. The conspiracy theory films could be doctored to make it look like military aircraft, special effects are not that hard to do these days, not with modern technology. It could be plausible, but something's not right with it.
The People's Hero Posted 17 October 2005 Posted 17 October 2005 Maybe Al-Qaeda and Bush plotted together? I'm sorry Alex, but I'm with Davieg on this. The conspiracy theory films could be doctored to make it look like military aircraft, special effects are not that hard to do these days, not with modern technology. It could be plausible, but something's not right with it. Correct Lisa.
Janx Posted 17 October 2005 Posted 17 October 2005 oh per-lease!! Alex I am surprised at you old chap! YES Bush is a canute, and made a war for his own ends but NO to conspiracy!!
davieG Posted 17 October 2005 Posted 17 October 2005 Another thing to consider is that if this was really set up to justify attacking someone (Al Quieda(sp), Iraq, Afganistan, Muslims etc) surely they would have come up with a less dramatic and difficult conspiracy. They could have assasinated some top ranking officials/military/celebities for example. I'm not a strategist but I just think the reasons as to why this would have been faked seem out of all proportion to what they are supposed to have wanted to achieve. I'm still of an open mind about all these conspiracy ideas but not convinced either way. Most governments and people trying to topple governments are devious and I don't trust any politition, political party or even their worst enemies.
Ric Flair Posted 17 October 2005 Posted 17 October 2005 So if this is all a conspiracy and the planes that crashed in to the WTC didn't have any passengers on it, where are the passengers that were said to have been on the planes? Were they in on it aswell and are now living a secret live somewhere else? Or were they all killed off before they boarded the alledged planes. I read and saw numerous interviews with families of the dead and if their loved one's hadn't boarded the planes in question then they must still be alive and the families were in on it aswell?! I have watched a few programmes on this and was interested to see the stuff about Bush's involvement with the Bin Laden's and the fact the whole family were allowed to leave the country days after the attacks without being held for questioning. But if this atrocity was all down to what is marked out on that website and the dvd then i'll eat my own face.
IDEA OR IKEA Posted 17 October 2005 Posted 17 October 2005 So if this is all a conspiracy and the planes that crashed in to the WTC didn't have any passengers on it, where are the passengers that were said to have been on the planes? Were they in on it aswell and are now living a secret live somewhere else? Or were they all killed off before they boarded the alledged planes. I read and saw numerous interviews with families of the dead and if their loved one's hadn't boarded the planes in question then they must still be alive and the families were in on it aswell?! Exactly thats what i said.....
breadandcheese Posted 17 October 2005 Posted 17 October 2005 I did read on a very reliable webpage from some grass eating hill-billy hick that George Bush is actually a puppet for Elvis, who didn't really die, but is in fact working in a petrol station in Minnesota. Apparently, Elvis has a vendetta against the countries in the middle east because they banned his music and refuse to sell it. He just needed an excuse to go after them and affect regime change. Now that George Bush is in Iraq, Elvis is free to sell his CDs on every street corner. Oh hang on, maybe this is all a load of utter....
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