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Artificial Intelligence (AI)

By Wymsey, in General Chat

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danny.

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40 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

If that's universally true (and it's entirely possible) then we're all screwed in short order and I just hope whoever is left - or if the dolphins/elephants/capybaras become sentient enough to build proper stuff sometime over the next few million years - know better than to repeat our mistakes. 

We've always been like this as a species, the variable is technology. 

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leicsmac

leicsmac

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9 minutes ago, danny. said:

We've always been like this as a species, the variable is technology. 

A lot of the people that other people have written recorded histories of (not necessarily the same as everyone or even most of a species) have certainly been like that, and the advancement of tech has certainly changed things, yes. 

 

That does rather illustrates the point that the window in which we have to change or have the risk of disaster become a certainty instead is closing fast. 

CornwallFox

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Pentagon declares Anthropic a threat to national security - The Washington Post https://share.google/NroY2beGFOwbRPED6

 

The need with this one is that Anthropic have an AI system that looks to be a really big deal for the company, with rumours it's used internally within Microsoft over it's own co-pilot.

 

The US military wants to use ours AI to power military hardware but Anthropic have resisted, so in typical Trumpiam fashion, the department of war are now attempting to make their AI system unusable across America, another do what we say or else type approach.

leicsmac

leicsmac

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7 minutes ago, CornwallFox said:

Pentagon declares Anthropic a threat to national security - The Washington Post https://share.google/NroY2beGFOwbRPED6

 

The need with this one is that Anthropic have an AI system that looks to be a really big deal for the company, with rumours it's used internally within Microsoft over it's own co-pilot.

 

The US military wants to use ours AI to power military hardware but Anthropic have resisted, so in typical Trumpiam fashion, the department of war are now attempting to make their AI system unusable across America, another do what we say or else type approach.

Yep. Using the cheap "Yellow Peril" excuse to allow AI more unfettered access to systems designed to kill people. 

 

What could possibly go wrong?

danny.

danny.

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I mean, it's good if they banned or curtailed Claude (and only if every other LLM was too), but for all the wrong reasons. But some legislation would be nice at some point rather than the current tactic of letting it run wild. This reaction is... bizarre.

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Sampson

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Good video if you have the time to watch it, which explains a lot of the different fears around AI rather than just the standard “they’ll take our jobs” angle 

 

 

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danny.

danny.

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22 minutes ago, Sampson said:

Good video if you have the time to watch it, which explains a lot of the different fears around AI rather than just the standard “they’ll take our jobs” angle 

 

 

The mental health angle is really interesting, I think the same principal applied with social media too - we invented it for "good" but the it caused massive mental health problems for people.

I've had the same chat about a weird "brain-stretching" effect using AI extensively with a few colleagues now, I think that it might be something that we end up studying in the future if it becomes widespread. It's obviously really easy to be super productive now using agents, doing 5-10x the amount of work you could without, but it seems to leave a really weird feeling which I can only describe as a feeling of being not that tired but simultaneously really burnt out with my brain feeling like it's been tugged in 10 directions all day. Which isn't far from the truth. Homo sapiens evolved to do 1-2 tasks at once and a relatively small amount in a day, and then we invented machines and then computers which let us do much more. Now we're working on multiple large projects and dozens of smaller tasks in one day which still takes up brain space and has cognitive cost, which I'm not sure our brains are liking at all.

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danny.

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https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2026/mar/02/meta-oversight-board-ai

"AI can be dangerous; chatbots advise teens on suicide and may soon be capable of instructing on how to create biological weapons. Yet there is no equivalent to the Federal Drug Administration, testing new models for safety before public release. Unlike in the nuclear industry, companies often don’t have to disclose dangerous breaches or accidents."

Insane, but good that high profile people are calling this out now.

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leicsmac

leicsmac

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19 minutes ago, Sampson said:

https://www.bbc.com/news/videos/c1w558dw92zo
 

Some people find protesters cringey or whatever but if there was anything to protest against it’s this shit.

 

Allowing the US government to use AI for spyware and complete autonomous AI weapons.

 

Why are we giving our humanity up to machine minds?

There are so, so many works of fiction explaining in horrendous detail about why this is a bad idea.

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Sampson

Sampson

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51 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

There are so, so many works of fiction explaining in horrendous detail about why this is a bad idea.

Yep. We’re sitting by and turning Earth into Dungeon Crawler Carl. 

 

https://san.com/cc/what-your-meta-smart-glasses-record-doesnt-stay-on-your-smart-glasses-data-labeling-contractors-say/

 

Contractors for Meta say they’ve been tasked with reviewing highly sensitive footage recorded by the company’s AI-powered smart glasses. The contractors, based in Nairobi, Kenya, claim to have seen everything from individuals using the bathroom to taking off their clothes.

 

Speaking with the Swedish newspapersSvenska Dagbladet and Göteborgs-Posten, employees with the data annotation business Sama said that complaints about the review process have been met with swift termination.

 

“You understand that it is someone’s private life you are looking at, but at the same time you are just expected to carry out the work,” one contractor said. “You are not supposed to question it. If you start asking questions, you are gone.”

 

Graphic footage captured

Meta has tasked Sama with a job known as data labeling, which requires humans to review and annotate video to train AI models.

 

The glasses record footage any time a user enables a feature known as “live AI.” The feature allows users to ask questions and receive answers about what they are seeing.

 

“Your glasses camera and microphone are continuously active during the session so that Meta AI’s responses are faster and related to what you’re seeing,” Meta says.

But what people see and record isn’t private.

 

Meta’s terms of use state that the company reserves the right to retain and review all interactions with its AI. Meta also says that users should refrain from sharing any sensitive information with its AI, given that it can be reviewed either by automated processes or humans.

 

But the contractors say Meta has failed to properly inform users that their footage is being seen by humans.

“In some videos you can see someone going to the toilet, or getting undressed,” a contractor said. “I don’t think they know, because if they knew they wouldn’t be recording.”

 

In one incident, a contractor claims to have clearly seen a user’s debit card, including the account number. 

Other stories are much more graphic. Sometimes the footage captures pornography the users watched. And sometimes the glasses film the users’ own sex acts.

 

“You think that if they knew about the extent of the data collection, no one would dare to use the glasses,” another contractor said.

 

Aside from sensitive video, chat logs also reveal intimate details on users’ lives. Another worker reported hearing conversations in which one user discussed criminal activity. Another chat with the AI centered around a user’s attendance at a protest.

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danny.

danny.

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Good watch here, logarithm graph around 24 mins in showing modals vs equivalent human task length too - doubling every 7 months currently

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brookfox

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My 18yo son is very anti AI. Any suggested harmless entry points for things/apps he can start with to dip his toe into the water. He’ll be doing maths at uni and hasn’t quite grasped the need to level up in AI so keen to get him started.

Izzy

Izzy

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7 hours ago, brookfox said:

My 18yo son is very anti AI. Any suggested harmless entry points for things/apps he can start with to dip his toe into the water. He’ll be doing maths at uni and hasn’t quite grasped the need to level up in AI so keen to get him started.

My daughter is in her first year at uni studying Maths.

 

She uses AI every day and she'd be screwed without it. I pay £20 a month for the upgraded version of Chat GPT and she uses that.

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Trav Le Bleu

Trav Le Bleu

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8 minutes ago, Izzy said:

My daughter is in her first year at uni studying Maths.

 

She uses AI every day and she'd be screwed without it. I pay £20 a month for the upgraded version of Chat GPT and she uses that.

So who's study maths; your daughter or Chat GPT?

Izzy

Izzy

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2 minutes ago, Trav Le Bleu said:

So who's study maths; your daughter or Chat GPT?

She mainly prompts ChatGPT to set her challenging example equations with specific formulas that really helps her prepare for tests and exams

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Zear0

Zear0

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33 minutes ago, danny. said:

Huang claims we have reached AGI

https://www.theverge.com/ai-artificial-intelligence/899086/jensen-huang-nvidia-agi

I watched that video and he didn’t make any such claims. He said there’s such a broad definition of the term and when asked by Lex if AGI could start a tech company that becomes a £1bn company he said the chances will be 0 for a long time.

 

It’s a really interesting interview if you’ve not seen it.

 

 

danny.

danny.

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13 minutes ago, Zear0 said:

I watched that video and he didn’t make any such claims. He said there’s such a broad definition of the term and when asked by Lex if AGI could start a tech company that becomes a £1bn company he said the chances will be 0 for a long time.

 

It’s a really interesting interview if you’ve not seen it.

 

 

I haven't seen it yet, will give it a watch later. At 1:56:34 though, he says "I think it's now, I think we've achieved AGI", which is what the verge article quotes?

Zear0

Zear0

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5 minutes ago, danny. said:

I haven't seen it yet, will give it a watch later. At 1:56:34 though, he says "I think it's now, I think we've achieved AGI", which is what the verge article quotes?

It was out of context, give it a watch! He’s clearly got some financial interests in AGI not being reached soon so he can milk this cow even more

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