Would you support us in a breakaway league with an online streaming service?

[Chrysalis]

22 hours ago, Heathrow fox said:

Cutting the money flow from above would force clubs as high as League one into becoming part time.How on earth does this make things better?

It would lower the costs all the way down the leagues.

[MPH]

1 hour ago, Chrysalis said:

You dont recognise the fundamental reason for the flawed FFP is that the big teams you want to keep wont accept a flat spending cap (they insist on it being based on revenue) and they the prime driver of the big financial gulf between the EPL and the championship?

They not the best teams for everyone either, I very rarely watch games they play in unless they involve Leicester City.  You a closet glory supporter?

I completely recognize the nature of FFP… 
 

haha, no. I’m talking about its global appeal as a football league. And how it will drastically lose its appeal without the top 6.. you think the finances are bad now, but you wait and see what it will be like without those teams…  the reality is, we need them in the league far more than they need us in the league.

Edited 27 March 2024 by MPH

[Heathrow fox]

23 hours ago, Chrysalis said:

It would lower the costs all the way down the leagues.

Yes wages would have to tumble as income from tv contracts and gate receipts would go through the floor.How is that a good thing?Why would Crewe’s no 8 want to play for 40k pa,on insecure one and two year contracts,when they can lay bricks fix computers or be a PT for the same or more.Plus get an extra 500/600 quid a week minimum by playing part time.General day to day and match running costs like energy,Police,stewarding,maintenance

and paying club staff are likely to go up still, not down.

[Chrysalis]

45 minutes ago, Heathrow fox said:

Yes wages would have to tumble as income from tv contracts and gate receipts would go through the floor.How is that a good thing?Why would Crewe’s no 8 want to play for 40k pa,on insecure one and two year contracts,when they can lay bricks fix computers or be a PT for the same or more.Plus get an extra 500/600 quid a week minimum by playing part time.General day to day and match running costs like energy,Police,stewarding,maintenance

and paying club staff are likely to go up still, not down.

You don't think we have footballers for the love of the game?  We have a different view on what people would choose to do, a footballer might be good at football but good at fixing computers and might have no interesting being a brick player, your comment seems so odd written by someone who perhaps acts like a mercenary in real life only ever doing what gives them the most ££, luckily not everyone thinks like that.

 

The rest of what you mention, part time players and so forth isn't the end of the world, many sports work that way as did football in the past, and football still does work this way when you go far enough down the pyramid.

I honestly don't know how people think this busted system we have now with a bubble waiting to burst, favouritism for the clubs with highest revenues and over paid players is something they want to keep whilst thinking rationally about it.  The women's game has shown e.g. how bad things are where as soon as it went professional with big clubs involved its already broken.

Just add a fixed wage cap, most important thing is its not based on revenue, kick out the big 6 who will threaten all sorts of nonsense including a break away league in opposition to it, reduce transfer windows so cant happen during a season, reduce squad sizes, add financial rules that restrict third party debt, wage caps should be set at a level where a club can get relegated and they wont need a parachute payment.  TV contracts should require equal coverage of each club, and equal payments to each club in the division, no finishing position offset.

As much as you want your glory games, we simply cannot fix FFP with the big 6 involved, they absolutely 100% want themselves to have an embedded advantage on spending budget, they also are overly concerned with European football things, which is leading to an increased emphasis on more European games at the expense of local cup games, as well as alignment of rules with UEFA which have contributed to the mess we have now.  I would even accept all English clubs being banned from UEFA if it meant we could have saner rules in the game.

I would also consider rules like national team can only pick X amount of players from one club which would help the problem of national players tending to cluster up at a few clubs, and might mitigate the issue of the England training camp of being a tapping up ground.

Edited 28 March 2024 by Chrysalis

[Guest leatherhead32]

On 22/03/2024 at 05:10, Sly said:

When the Premier League broke away from the football league in the early 90s, it changed the landscape of English football. 

 

Sport at its heart should be competitive and for the people, allowing any one competing a chance to win. Everyone loves an under dog story and it’s why we will go down as one the greatest fairy tail stories in sporting history. 

 

However I actually think the PSR rules could be the straw the broke the camels back. They are creating a massive divide in what clubs can spend and it’s further pulling apart the greedy six, even from the chasing pack of teams like Aston Villa, Newcastle, West Ham etc, as they aren’t allowed to invest to try and catch up with the likes of Manchester City. The rules crippled us (alongside some poor management) and even with us tightening our belts, we’re set for an uncertain future in terms of financial income and potentially being almost sentenced to relegation from the league before we start with a points deduction. 

 

Could this unfair playing field, initiate clubs to start conversations on a breakaway league with its own streaming service? 
 

We’ve seen it happen in other sports over the years and some have flourished, some haven’t. The IPL has been a major success but that rocked a major boat.
 

It would need to featured promotion and relegation, some form of salary cap to make it competitive maybe, allow clubs from any league to join, whilst not restricting outside investment, every game kicking off at 12:00 on a Saturday to avoid the watershed rule, thus allowing people to watch local football at 15:00 if they wanted to! 
 

Maybe allowing other non English teams to join a league setup might take the sting away from us being booted out of European competitions as well? Would you want us to play Celtic, Parma  or Sevilla? Maybe a nice trip to Brugge in a relegation decider? Or a League title decider to Forest, or even Rangers? 
 

It’s almost like the European Super League but booting out the teams that are perceived to get the favourable treatment I guess! 
 

Would you support it, or would it be a further nail in footballs coffin? 

it would be good to have different channels for what we want to watch that our teams are in ie a prem lg channel championship europa league internationals etc  plus a ladies football channel exclusive to ladies presented by ladies with their own commentators linos refs ets they have earned it now asap, then back to ugly blokes on mens channels in short no mixing with football , if we want to watch womens games thel have own channels and same for blokes. 

[sylofox]

More liable to support us in a breakaway or the Championship than I will be in the Premier Farce League.

 

The game I've loved for over 50yrs at the top level is a corrupt joke I'll no longer be following in it's present state.