First past the post voting system.

[David Hankey]

48 minutes ago, Lako42 said:

Lazy brits

I think it's called apathy.

[HighPeakFox]

I think a lot of people feel beaten down and unrepresented by the choices they are given, as well as (in part) lack of education, knowledge and gumption playing their various parts. And of course some just won't have the requisite ID. I suspect a lot of younger voters will feel totally alienated by it all.

[Mike Oxlong]

2 hours ago, FoxesDeb said:

That's why people should use swapmyvote, easiest way ever to make a vote count somewhere else if it won't in your own constituency 

I’ve heard of swapmyspouse.com but not swapmyvote  

[Benguin]

1 hour ago, Daggers said:

Point being, so have the Lib Dems, and yet not a peep about it anywhere. The second the right wing get dumped and the far right make limited inroads, cue the crying. 

I think your political compass is a bit skew whiff. 

[Daggers]

14 minutes ago, Benguin said:

I think your political compass is a bit skew whiff. 

Oh well. 

[ParkerPen]

getting rid of FPTP might help us get away from some of the adversarial nonsense.

 

you will end up running the risk of pandering to the lunatic fringes like dup, greens or reform etc 

 

but maybe we can finally get away from thatcher stole my milk, or the labour equivalent

[HighPeakFox]

6 minutes ago, Daggers said:

Oh well. 

I mean, what are you thinking Dave?

[Sampson]

Still cannot get my head round how a Christian can vote for Reform. It’s like the most anti-Christian message imaginable, none of it is about helping the less well off, the sick or bringing people together.
 

In fact it’s about privatising healthcare, and going after people because they were born in a different set of imaginary lines to you.

[HighPeakFox]

1 minute ago, ParkerPen said:

getting rid of FPTP might help us get away from some of the adversarial nonsense.

 

you will end up running the risk of pandering to the lunatic fringes like dup, greens or reform etc 

 

but maybe we can finally get away from thatcher stole my milk, or the labour equivalent

I think calling the Greens 'lunatic' is pretty unfair.

[ParkerPen]

Just now, HighPeakFox said:

I think calling the Greens 'lunatic' is pretty unfair.

fair cop. in comparison to the other two.

 

but, (some) laudable aims aside, they are rather too far to the left for me

[Foxdiamond]

2 minutes ago, ParkerPen said:

getting rid of FPTP might help us get away from some of the adversarial nonsense.

 

you will end up running the risk of pandering to the lunatic fringes like dup, greens or reform etc 

 

but maybe we can finally get away from thatcher stole my milk, or the labour equivalent

Thatcher stole a lot more than kiddies milk

[Dahnsouff]

1 minute ago, HighPeakFox said:

I think calling the Greens 'lunatic' is pretty unfair.

Wilfully turning their back on a perfectly valid contributor to chasing net zero (Nuclear power) seems quite moronic tbh.

[HighPeakFox]

Just now, ParkerPen said:

fair cop. in comparison to the other two.

 

but, (some) laudable aims aside, they are rather too far to the left for me

I think trying to help make sure we still have a habitable planet is definitely 'laudable'

 

I find it sad that fairly normal policies are now considered very left - it just shows how far the centre has shifted to the right, if you'll forgive the apparent contradiction.

[ParkerPen]

2 minutes ago, HighPeakFox said:

I think trying to help make sure we still have a habitable planet is definitely 'laudable'

 

I find it sad that fairly normal policies are now considered very left - it just shows how far the centre has shifted to the right, if you'll forgive the apparent contradiction.

well, my politically more inclined friends always did say I would get splinters in my arse from sitting on the fence 

Edited 5 July 2024 by ParkerPen

[leicsmac]

4 minutes ago, HighPeakFox said:

I think trying to help make sure we still have a habitable planet is definitely 'laudable'

 

I find it sad that fairly normal policies are now considered very left - it just shows how far the centre has shifted to the right, if you'll forgive the apparent contradiction.

It is, but sadly their platform for doing so is...impractical.

 

It's rather frustrating that as a scientist they tick a lot of the social boxes for me but miss a few on scientific future which means I can't roll with them.

[HighPeakFox]

5 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

It is, but sadly their platform for doing so is...impractical.

 

It's rather frustrating that as a scientist they tick a lot of the social boxes for me but miss a few on scientific future which means I can't roll with them.

That's fine - but hardly 'lunatic', right?

[Dahnsouff]

6 minutes ago, HighPeakFox said:

That's fine - but hardly 'lunatic', right?

nevermind

Edited 5 July 2024 by Dahnsouff

[Daggers]

20 minutes ago, HighPeakFox said:

I mean, what are you thinking Dave?

I try not to, it hurts

[HighPeakFox]

2 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said:

You are right, professing Green credentials yet rejecting a required major tool in the pursuit of halting climate change probably is more moronic than lunatic. The nuance will no doubt be of great value in the future, I am sorry but this is no time for semantics.

 

Hell, it seems like it’s no time for anything at all.

I'm not sure this matters does it? I suspect we agree on most things and don't see a reason to fall out over such a minor difference of opinion.

Edited 5 July 2024 by HighPeakFox

[leicsmac]

8 minutes ago, HighPeakFox said:

That's fine - but hardly 'lunatic', right?

Certainly not "lunatic".

 

I just wish they were more fully onboard with the necessary solutions.

[HighPeakFox]

1 minute ago, leicsmac said:

Certainly not "lunatic".

 

I just wish they were more fully onboard with the necessary solutions.

That was my original point - lumping them in with Reform and DUP is unfair.

[Dahnsouff]

3 minutes ago, HighPeakFox said:

I'm not sure this matters does it? I suspect we agree on most things and don't see a reason to fall out over such a minor difference of opninion.

I removed my statement as I have too much respect for your opinions normally  and do not wish to ‘fall out’, but my fury with the greens makes it important, we differ on this this, so be it.

 

sorry, let me be clear, the term yes is irrelevant but not acknowledging the greens failing is important in my opinion.

Edited 5 July 2024 by Dahnsouff

[HighPeakFox]

1 minute ago, Dahnsouff said:

I removed my statement as I have too much respect for your opinions normally  and do not wish to ‘fall out’, but my fury with the greens makes it important, we differ on this this, so be it.

I respect your fury, I believe it to be for good reason.

[ParkerPen]

1 minute ago, HighPeakFox said:

That was my original point - lumping them in with Reform and DUP is unfair.

yes, I fessed up. but for me the greens manifesto in its entirety is still la-la land 

[Benguin]

My only major criticism of FPTP is your voting power is limited depending on where you live. I live in a constituency that has changed hands a lot so feel my vote matters more but have in the past lived in conservative territory that even retained seats last night so vote feels a bit pointless.