US Presidential Election 2024

[Detroit Blues]

23 hours ago, grobyfox1990 said:

Highly highly doubt he controls his own social media or watches debates. He'll be briefed on it. One month before election date surely he would've been campaigning all day yday.

Nobody controls his anything, and if people are on TV talking about him, he is absolutely going to be watching

 

He dictates his tweets, and spends large portions of his day (even when he was president) watching cable news. He is a egomaniacal sociopath, concerned only about getting attention and power. 

[grobyfox1990]

38 minutes ago, Detroit Blues said:

Nobody controls his anything, and if people are on TV talking about him, he is absolutely going to be watching

 

He dictates his tweets, and spends large portions of his day (even when he was president) watching cable news. He is a egomaniacal sociopath, concerned only about getting attention and power. 

Yeh can see where you're coming from. And ofc there was the famous 'leak' of his diary during his first term which showed hours of TV and burger time.

[Phenom]

On 03/10/2024 at 05:33, ajthefox said:

Can't imagine he watches debates but surely he is doing his own twitter, or is giving exact commands..

 

I can't believe some PR manager person is sending out that shite

Unless it’s one of his sons. They’re idiots, too.

[st albans fox]

I’m seeing some reports of polling in swing states that should alarm Harris 

 

are these erroneous ?? 

[leicsmac]

35 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

I’m seeing some reports of polling in swing states that should alarm Harris 

 

are these erroneous ?? 

The latest polling collation at Realclearpolitics still has it roughly even.

[st albans fox]

Harris is having some tricky interviews last couple days. 
 

will the republicans go all in on the basis that she won’t be able to step up whereas their guy has done it already ???

 

basically that you can trust trump whereas you have no idea whether Harris can do the job 

[leicsmac]

10 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

Harris is having some tricky interviews last couple days. 
 

will the republicans go all in on the basis that she won’t be able to step up whereas their guy has done it already ???

 

basically that you can trust trump whereas you have no idea whether Harris can do the job 

... to do what (outside the economic sphere, and even that's debatable), exactly?

 

Or is the soundbite enough? It could well be tbh.

[st albans fox]

4 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

... to do what (outside the economic sphere, and even that's debatable), exactly?

 

Or is the soundbite enough? It could well be tbh.

Yes - we’re talking about the average American …….

 

and yes, we voted for brexit 

Edited 8 October 2024 by st albans fox

[grobyfox1990]

18 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

Yes - we’re talking about the average American …….

 

and yes, we voted for brexit 

Exactly, we voted for Brexit and Boris LOL. Pot, kettle black if anyone resident in the UK during this period calls Americans dumb.

[Lionator]

Just sensational 

 

 

[leicsmac]

It's still darkly amazing to me that a person who incited an insurrection attempt after losing a free and fair election and has been convicted of a crime can not only stand for the highest of offices afterwards, but stand a good chance of being elected to it.

 

We do live in interesting times.

[Jattdogg]

What the fook is this. This guy isn't even coherent. He is like a really bad used car salesman.

 

https://www.tmz.com/2024/10/09/donald-trump-basically-honest-podcast-host-laughs/

Edited 9 October 2024 by Jattdogg

[st albans fox]

23 hours ago, Lionator said:

Just sensational 

 

 

Would have been funnier watching him trying to work out where the front page is if they’d said yes! 

[Torquay Gunner]

9 hours ago, Jattdogg said:

What the fook is this. This guy isn't even coherent. He is like a really bad used car salesman.

 

https://www.tmz.com/2024/10/09/donald-trump-basically-honest-podcast-host-laughs/

Yeah ‘I am basically a truthful person’ would have me laughing in his face too. 

[st albans fox]

On 08/10/2024 at 13:18, st albans fox said:

Harris is having some tricky interviews last couple days. 
 

will the republicans go all in on the basis that she won’t be able to step up whereas their guy has done it already ???

 

basically that you can trust trump whereas you have no idea whether Harris can do the job 

Eg

 

[leicsmac]

2 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

Eg

 

And then the question becomes exactly why these "many Americans" focus on this and not the interviews from Trump, nor on the substantive policy differences.

 

Why, exactly, is that?

[st albans fox]

31 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

And then the question becomes exactly why these "many Americans" focus on this and not the interviews from Trump, nor on the substantive policy differences.

 

Why, exactly, is that?

My point is that it becomes tougher to challenge trump for his hyperbole and gerrymandered stuff when you’ve engaged in it yourself 

[leicsmac]

17 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

My point is that it becomes tougher to challenge trump for his hyperbole and gerrymandered stuff when you’ve engaged in it yourself 

Speaking personally I think the distinction easily remains large enough to make the challenge and choice utterly trivial and I'm not sure why that wouldn't be the case for most folks, but fair enough.

[Detroit Blues]

21 hours ago, leicsmac said:

It's still darkly amazing to me that a person who incited an insurrection attempt after losing a free and fair election and has been convicted of a crime can not only stand for the highest of offices afterwards, but stand a good chance of being elected to it.

 

We do live in interesting times.

Honestly, in my opinion, denying the results of the election with no evidence to back it up is treasonous. Not only it disqualify that person from running for office again, but anyone who maintains that Trump won the 2020 Presidential election should be disqualified from holding office as well.

 

Unfortunately, my fellow citizens living in the state of Michigan, do not agree. Mike Rogers, running for Senate in Michigan, maintains that Trump not only won the 2020 election nationally, but also won the state of Michigan in 2020. Biden won Michigan by 2-3% of the vote, which is something like 180k votes. How do citizens of Michigan feel about Mike Rogers, and his crazy election conspiracy theories? Well, he's only trailing Elissa Slotkin by about 4 points on average, and recent polls have him statistically tied....

 

It really makes you lose hope in democracy. 

 

No partisan viewpoints should be more important than our democratic values, and yet the NYT's latest poll has 95% of people who had voted for Trump in 2020 voting for him again in 2024. Denying the results of the election, raising an armed mob to attack the capitol, and all the other crazy things he's done in 4 years has only eroded his support by 5%. 19 out of 20 people who voted for him in 2020, saw what happened on January 6th, and are willing to support him in 2024. It makes me sick. 

[leicsmac]

1 hour ago, Detroit Blues said:

Honestly, in my opinion, denying the results of the election with no evidence to back it up is treasonous. Not only it disqualify that person from running for office again, but anyone who maintains that Trump won the 2020 Presidential election should be disqualified from holding office as well.

 

Unfortunately, my fellow citizens living in the state of Michigan, do not agree. Mike Rogers, running for Senate in Michigan, maintains that Trump not only won the 2020 election nationally, but also won the state of Michigan in 2020. Biden won Michigan by 2-3% of the vote, which is something like 180k votes. How do citizens of Michigan feel about Mike Rogers, and his crazy election conspiracy theories? Well, he's only trailing Elissa Slotkin by about 4 points on average, and recent polls have him statistically tied....

 

It really makes you lose hope in democracy. 

 

No partisan viewpoints should be more important than our democratic values, and yet the NYT's latest poll has 95% of people who had voted for Trump in 2020 voting for him again in 2024. Denying the results of the election, raising an armed mob to attack the capitol, and all the other crazy things he's done in 4 years has only eroded his support by 5%. 19 out of 20 people who voted for him in 2020, saw what happened on January 6th, and are willing to support him in 2024. It makes me sick. 

I honestly thought that the events of January 6th would be the end of pretty much any political candidate that even came close to being involved in it or endorsing it. Sadly, the times we live in appear to have changed.

 

I just hope that in the future, those who look back at these times don't loathe us for what we as a species led them into.

Edited 10 October 2024 by leicsmac

[st albans fox]

2 hours ago, leicsmac said:

I honestly thought that the events of January 6th would be the end of pretty much any political candidate that even came close to being involved in it or endorsing it. Sadly, the times we live in appear to have changed.

 

I just hope that in the future, those who look back at these times don't loathe us for what we as a species led them into.

If trump gets back then at least he can’t serve more than 4 years 

and it’s also a positive that he wouldn’t have had an 8 year straight stretch because he may have made a bigger mess of stuff if he had.  I guess the question will be the make up of the senate and congress during his term. 

[leicsmac]

21 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

If trump gets back then at least he can’t serve more than 4 years 

and it’s also a positive that he wouldn’t have had an 8 year straight stretch because he may have made a bigger mess of stuff if he had.  I guess the question will be the make up of the senate and congress during his term. 

Yeah, that could be so.

 

Still, there's plenty of damage already been done, particularly in terms of the Supreme Court judiciary and societally in terms of just how massive a cult of personality has been built. Those will both have long lasting legacies already, goodness knows what another four years would be like.

[grobyfox1990]

4 hours ago, Detroit Blues said:

Honestly, in my opinion, denying the results of the election with no evidence to back it up is treasonous. Not only it disqualify that person from running for office again, but anyone who maintains that Trump won the 2020 Presidential election should be disqualified from holding office as well.

 

Unfortunately, my fellow citizens living in the state of Michigan, do not agree. Mike Rogers, running for Senate in Michigan, maintains that Trump not only won the 2020 election nationally, but also won the state of Michigan in 2020. Biden won Michigan by 2-3% of the vote, which is something like 180k votes. How do citizens of Michigan feel about Mike Rogers, and his crazy election conspiracy theories? Well, he's only trailing Elissa Slotkin by about 4 points on average, and recent polls have him statistically tied....

 

It really makes you lose hope in democracy. 

 

No partisan viewpoints should be more important than our democratic values, and yet the NYT's latest poll has 95% of people who had voted for Trump in 2020 voting for him again in 2024. Denying the results of the election, raising an armed mob to attack the capitol, and all the other crazy things he's done in 4 years has only eroded his support by 5%. 19 out of 20 people who voted for him in 2020, saw what happened on January 6th, and are willing to support him in 2024. It makes me sick. 

Mike rogers is brilliantly funny. Like a hybrid remix of Elon musk and trump. He seemed deranged at the Saginaw rally. Have you ever been to a trump rally? I would love to go to one

[brookfox]

Harris is starting to look a bit like Starmer; probably not good enough for the task at hand but definitely better than the alternative.

[Silebyfox_89]

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