General News Thread

[splinterdream]

1 minute ago, StanSP said:

Clear to you, but even your own 'source' says 'no, the evidence does not support the idea that the BBC is strongly or uniformly left-wing'

 

I didn't use the words strongly or uniformly, I just said it has a left wing bias. Chat GPT has a good point that it depends on where your political viewpoint is, thats why id be interested to see what the public think, as I said before most people I speak to think the BBC is left leaning. Its a complex issue as it has a lot of content. I dont really watch anything on the BBC now anyway.

[Samilktray]

But his brother that worked there said it was left wing? 

[splinterdream]

1 minute ago, Samilktray said:

But his brother that worked there said it was left wing? 

He said most of the people working there had strong left leaning views yes, this was at the time Corbyn was labour leader. 

Edited 10 November 2025 by splinterdream

[Zear0]

2 minutes ago, splinterdream said:

I didn't use the words strongly or uniformly, I just said it has a left wing bias. Chat GPT has a good point that it depends on where your political viewpoint is, thats why id be interested to see what the public think, as I said before most people I speak to think the BBC is left leaning. Its a complex issue as it has a lot of content. I dont really watch anything on the BBC now anyway.

But you said "it was clear to me" and yet you don't watch anything on it?  Not people you speak to, your brother or Tim Davie, it was "clear to me".  

[splinterdream]

Guys, it'd be nice to be able to come in here and have a good discussion about stuff without it resembling a playground. 

 

Have a good rest of the night talking and agreeing amongst yourselves.

 

Never did get the answer from @Lionator

[StanSP]

3 minutes ago, splinterdream said:

Guys, it'd be nice to be able to come in here and have a good discussion about stuff without it resembling a playground. 

We're having a standard conversation. 

 

Just because you're called out on something doesn't make it a playground. 

[CornwallFox]

58 minutes ago, splinterdream said:

I used to be an avid question time fan, it always seemed to me that any conservative voice was brought on to be the panto villain.

I cant comment on the study as ive not seen how it was conducted and wouldnt be interested in arguing against its findings. 

What would be interesting is the overall viewpoint of the public, or should that not matter? 

The public are led by incessant calls to abolish the BBC and claims of bias from the 85% of the media that are Tory supporting or right wing. Because they want hemegomy and only right wing voices. The public being easily led isn't really a debate at this point.

[st albans fox]

Said it before 

if the beeb is upsetting everyone then it’s probably doing its job pretty well

[splinterdream]

16 minutes ago, StanSP said:

We're having a standard conversation. 

 

Just because you're called out on something doesn't make it a playground. 

I stated my opinion based on the BBC, along with the output of the other mainstream channels when it comes to Brexit, immigration, gender ideaology, critical race theory, net zero, Israel/Palestine conflict, US politics, all which seems to veer to the left, mainly due to the people who work there, if you dont agree, thats cool. 

 

[splinterdream]

12 minutes ago, CornwallFox said:

The public are led by incessant calls to abolish the BBC and claims of bias from the 85% of the media that are Tory supporting or right wing. Because they want hemegomy and only right wing voices. The public being easily led isn't really a debate at this point.

People just dont want to be forced to pay for it 

[Fear Of The Fox]

9 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

Said it before 

if the beeb is upsetting everyone then it’s probably doing its job pretty well

Then you're absolutely missing the point. If you believe any media can stitch and manipulate criminally speeches, events etc you have issues understanding the foundations of journalism and the basics of democracy. BBC is done and it's shocking how they've managed to self destruct. 

[CornwallFox]

10 minutes ago, splinterdream said:

People just dont want to be forced to pay for it 

Ok well you don't want to and I do want to so we're even

[CornwallFox]

4 minutes ago, Fear Of The Fox said:

Then you're absolutely missing the point. If you believe any media can stitch and manipulate criminally speeches, events etc you have issues understanding the foundations of journalism and the basics of democracy. BBC is done and it's shocking how they've managed to self destruct. 

The BBC didn't make it. It was made by an independent production company and nobody noticed the cutting of the speech because, let's face it, it's still two bits of the same speech. 

[splinterdream]

5 minutes ago, Fear Of The Fox said:

Then you're absolutely missing the point. If you believe any media can stitch and manipulate criminally speeches, events etc you have issues understanding the foundations of journalism and the basics of democracy. BBC is done and it's shocking how they've managed to self destruct. 

BBC verify certainly is

[CornwallFox]

14 minutes ago, splinterdream said:

I stated my opinion based on the BBC, along with the output of the other mainstream channels when it comes to Brexit, immigration, gender ideaology, critical race theory, net zero, Israel/Palestine conflict, US politics, all which seems to veer to the left, mainly due to the people who work there, if you dont agree, thats cool. 

 

I'm not getting into all of these but critical race theory doesn't exist in the UK. Net zero and climate change are scientifically cast iron. Having people argue against cast iron science isn't 'giving both sides', it's pretending one side is equal to the other when it isn't. Israel/Palestine the BBC like every other organisation has played to the Israeli side. Gender ideology I think everybody has lost their heads over a minor side issue tbh. Brexit largely happened because of the BBC giving farage a platform when he was a nobody in the years before. 

A lot of the right these days seen to think balanced reporting equals everything they believe being reported as fact. You're giving that impression yourself.

[StanSP]

18 minutes ago, splinterdream said:

I stated my opinion based on the BBC, along with the output of the other mainstream channels when it comes to Brexit, immigration, gender ideaology, critical race theory, net zero, Israel/Palestine conflict, US politics, all which seems to veer to the left, mainly due to the people who work there, if you dont agree, thats cool. 

 

I still think this depends on your political viewpoint. As your mate ChatGPT said . 

 

They definitely don't veer to the left on the Israel/Palestine issue... 

[splinterdream]

4 minutes ago, CornwallFox said:

I'm not getting into all of these but critical race theory doesn't exist in the UK. Net zero and climate change are scientifically cast iron. Having people argue against cast iron science isn't 'giving both sides', it's pretending one side is equal to the other when it isn't. Israel/Palestine the BBC like every other organisation has played to the Israeli side. Gender ideology I think everybody has lost their heads over a minor side issue tbh. Brexit largely happened because of the BBC giving farage a platform when he was a nobody in the years before. 

A lot of the right these days seen to think balanced reporting equals everything they believe being reported as fact. You're giving that impression yourself.

I don’t agree with any of that, I’d only like to see arguments from both sides of a debate, I don’t mind having my opinion changed, I’m not led by anything, that’s why I enjoy talking politics with people as long as it doesn’t get nasty. 

[Fear Of The Fox]

9 minutes ago, CornwallFox said:

The BBC didn't make it. It was made by an independent production company and nobody noticed the cutting of the speech because, let's face it, it's still two bits of the same speech. 

The broadcaster is liable. They also knew about this for months now and they didn't do anything. It's just laughable that you're trying to prove them innocent with childish excuses. "Still two bits of the same speech"! You can't be serious. 

[splinterdream]

9 minutes ago, Fear Of The Fox said:

The broadcaster is liable. They also knew about this for months now and they didn't do anything. It's just laughable that you're trying to prove them innocent with childish excuses. "Still two bits of the same speech"! You can't be serious. 

Same as the BBC Gaza documentary that failed ofcom rules 

[Trav Le Bleu]

2 hours ago, splinterdream said:

I'm not assuming anything to fit my narrative, its my viewpoint based on what i see and when I talk to others. I also have a brother that worked at the BBC.

For example Tim Davie stated he wanted to address the left wing comedy bias at the BBC, so even he thought there was an issue.

 

Tim Davie is a conservative is probably why.

[Trav Le Bleu]

So...

 

If you're sued by a court judgement in a foreign country, how is that enforced? Is it enforceable? If it was, surely any corrupt country (sic) could sue an organisation in another country that would destabilise it.

 

Could the BBC just not recognise the litigation?

[splinterdream]

4 minutes ago, Trav Le Bleu said:

Tim Davie is a conservative is probably why.

What like Iain Dale, Rory Stewert, Theresa May, David Cameron?

[CornwallFox]

29 minutes ago, Fear Of The Fox said:

The broadcaster is liable. They also knew about this for months now and they didn't do anything. It's just laughable that you're trying to prove them innocent with childish excuses. "Still two bits of the same speech"! You can't be serious. 

I'm not trying to prove them innocent. I'm saying it would have been easy to miss when you're waving the programme through. The broadcaster may well be liable but given it wasn't them that intentionally spliced video segments, I'm just saying you can see how easy that would be to miss. 

Edited 10 November 2025 by CornwallFox

[Trav Le Bleu]

37 minutes ago, CornwallFox said:

The BBC didn't make it. It was made by an independent production company and nobody noticed the cutting of the speech because, let's face it, it's still two bits of the same speech. 

Indeed. You see lazy journalism all the time, where journalists plagiarise and mash together unchecked sources. 

[CornwallFox]

6 minutes ago, splinterdream said:

What like Iain Dale, Rory Stewert, Theresa May, David Cameron?

Davie stood for election as a Tory in the 90s but didn't get elected.