Kneeling

[MPH]

Just now, ChrisFilter said:

To signal that there is no room for racism. Really simple. 

 

 

how does kneeling stop racism?

[ChrisFilter]

Just now, MPH said:

 

 

how does kneeling stop racism?

It’s just signalling a desire for equality. 

[Raj]

2 minutes ago, MPH said:

that song applies to all of you

 

 

( *except the Jews )
 

 

 

 

 

*this is a joke

MODS!!!!

[ChrisFilter]

Genuine question for those who have a problem with it.

Do you dislike the idea of people from all backgrounds being treated with equal respect?

[skmanuk]

2 hours ago, lfu said:

It's not Jews being banned, it's away fans of Maccabi Tel Aviv, because policing intelligence suggests they're likely to need significantly more resources to police than a typical away contigent (and they don't want to put their officers or stewards at risk) and their fans' prior behaviour has repeatedly been violent, causing property damage and chanting racist slogans. Away fans of a club being banned from attending a European fixture because police/security deem to be them a significant risk is nothing new, nor is it exclusive to Maccabi Tel Aviv — ask fans of Legia Warsaw (whose behaviour at Villa Park earned them a ban) Frankfurt, Feyenoord, West Ham, Barcelona, etc

Aston Villa's Jewish fans (I believe they have a small Jewish Supporters Group?) aren't banned from attending, nor am I aware of any Aston Villa fans being banned on the basis of their religion.

You dont half talk some dangerous rubbish, sadly a sign of the times when people get their news from social media. Accepting there always a few fans up for a scrap but this went far beyond.

 

Note the last sentence from the dutch Prime Minister

 

from The Guardian newspaper, probably the most muslim friendly mainstream newspaper,  (Femke Halsema is the mayor of Amsterdam)

"After the match, which Ajax won 5-0, there were numerous attacks, described by Halsema as “hit and run”, on Maccabi supporters across the city centre. Footage showed masked youths on scooters and ebikes seeking out, chasing down and beating victims – mostly in Maccabi colours – until about 4am.

At a press conference on Friday, Halsema said the violence “brings back memories of pogroms. It is deeply damaging to the city. Jewish culture has been deeply threatened. This is an outburst of antisemitism that I hope to never see again.

 

About 75% of Dutch Jews, most living in Amsterdam, were killed in the Holocaust, the highest proportion in western Europe.

The public prosecutor, René de Beukelaer, said the investigation would focus on antisemitism as a motive. Police were analysing footage to identify the perpetrators and social media to establish how far the attacks were organised, he said.

 

 

The Dutch prime minister, Dick Schoof, called it “shameful”, “unacceptable” and a “turning point”. He invited Israel’s foreign minister, Gideon Sa’ar, for talks in The Hague, where the two agreed on the urgency of fighting rising antisemitism.

Schoof added on Monday that he was aware of the allegations of racism and violence against Maccabi fans, “but there is a big difference between destroying things and hunting Jews. Nothing, absolutely nothing can excuse for the deliberate searching and hunting down of Jews,” he said."

[Nods]

Pointless? Yes.

Virtue signalling? Also yes. 

 

Worth getting worked up about? No. 

 

Roll your eyes and move on like most of us do.

[skmanuk]

2 hours ago, splinterdream said:

Just to let you know, the amsterdam incident, there was a small contingent of maccabi fans arrested (10 i think), and the trouble was a organised campaign to attack the maccabi fans 

Correct, over 100 arrested now

[skmanuk]

1 hour ago, lfu said:

Yeah, I won't make light of that at all; the attack by people from Amsterdam/surrounding areas on the Maccabi fans was pre-organised (court proceedings showed whatsapp chat logs and such, and was referred to as a "Jew Hunt"), but from reading the Dutch news coverage of it they mostly failed at confronting the Maccabi hooligans who were their actual targets – I believe most of the people they ended up attacking were the Maccabi fans who were trying to avoid getting caught up with the hools, as well as some locals who refused to show ID to thugs who were indeed looking to attack anyone with an Israeli passport (or as being Jewish, as there were at least several of them using the Arabic words for Jew rather than the words for Israeli so there was definitely anti-semitic motivation there, I won't deny), and one Ukrainan refugee they mistook as being Israeli.

But AFAIK the anti-Arab chanting, ripping down Palestinian flags, vandalising property (trying to kick down doors and break windows) and attacking an Arab taxi driver (breaking his windscreen with a metal pole) happened before the attacks by the locals. A lot of Maccabi fans avoided being arrested by covering their faces and getting on the flight home before the police could identify them, conveniently helped by some CCTV footage being wiped.

Can you quote reliable sources for thew absolute garbage youare pedalling???

[Aleksz]

How on earth is this thread still open 

[lgfualol]

It’s just kneeling, are ppl so bored with their lives footballers kneeling is such a big deal. Just look away when it takes place. Sorted.

[Muzzy_no7]

5 minutes ago, ChrisFilter said:

Genuine question for those who have a problem with it.

Do you dislike the idea of people from all backgrounds being treated with equal respect?

I don’t know anyone who would dislike the idea. 
 

Personally though, I go to football to watch my team. 

 

I don’t think taking a knee or similar has any benefit,  especially with its affiliation with the BLM movement. 

[ian__marshall]

When did Wayne Brown join the forum?!?