Fox 4 Life Posted 12 October 2004 Posted 12 October 2004 From another site Also according to the Daily Mirror and various other Newspapers, former City player Gary McAllister is top of the short-list, as he is connected with ex-chairman Jon Holmes and his wife Denice's condition has improved. This school of thought is backed up by the fact that SkyBet suspended all bets on McAllister yesterday. Lets hope so!!
Cobbo Posted 12 October 2004 Posted 12 October 2004 From another siteAlso according to the Daily Mirror and various other Newspapers, former City player Gary McAllister is top of the short-list, as he is connected with ex-chairman Jon Holmes and his wife Denice's condition has improved. This school of thought is backed up by the fact that SkyBet suspended all bets on McAllister yesterday. Lets hope so!! 26139[/snapback] Why are you so pleased with this? His managerial record is nothing special. He finished 20th with Cov in his first full season.
Ric Flair Posted 12 October 2004 Posted 12 October 2004 I'm not overly sure about Gary, but it would be harsh to question him if he is appointed. I will be 100% behind him as he doesn't come with any baggage and although he wasn't amazing at Cov, that doesn't mean he isn't manager material.
Leicester_Mad Posted 12 October 2004 Posted 12 October 2004 i would want him there with someone else helping him out. Maybe there is a way we can get 2 managers like bassett and adams were?
bluefox Posted 12 October 2004 Posted 12 October 2004 This rumour has been doing the rounds for some time now. I may have even mentioned Gary Mac on an earlier thread. Corals suspended bets on this a while ago according to the bloke who sits next to me at the Walkers. Looks like a good long term solution BUT would need a more experianced manager to work with. How about Brian Little and Gary Mac.
Anish Posted 12 October 2004 Posted 12 October 2004 I don't see how people can get excited at the prospect of Gary Mac. Sure he was a fantastic player and he will play decent football on the ground, but as others have said, he wasn't a huge success at Cov and doesn't have any other managerial experience. If he did come I would like somebody more senior and experienced to work alongside Mac - but ideally I would favour Newell.
Fox 4 Life Posted 12 October 2004 Author Posted 12 October 2004 I don't see how people can get excited at the prospect of Gary Mac. Sure he was a fantastic player and he will play decent football on the ground, but as others have said, he wasn't a huge success at Cov and doesn't have any other managerial experience. If he did come I would like somebody more senior and experienced to work alongside Mac - but ideally I would favour Newell. 26147[/snapback] And Newell has experience does he? Whilst at Cov he had his wife seriously ill so im guessing other things were on his mind, all you lot have such high expectations, you say experience but the only realistic one with exp will be brian little! strachan, robson etc would never come here, gary mac is in my opinion a good appointment as he is a manager for the future which is what we need - "who is martin o'neil" is what we heard when he took over and i sure some of you moaned about that and look how that turned out?
Babylon Posted 12 October 2004 Posted 12 October 2004 I don't see how people can get excited at the prospect of Gary Mac. Sure he was a fantastic player and he will play decent football on the ground, but as others have said, he wasn't a huge success at Cov and doesn't have any other managerial experience. If he did come I would like somebody more senior and experienced to work alongside Mac - but ideally I would favour Newell. 26147[/snapback] And Newell has experience does he? Whilst at Cov he had his wife seriously ill so im guessing other things were on his mind, all you lot have such high expectations, you say experience but the only realistic one with exp will be brian little! strachan, robson etc would never come here, gary mac is in my opinion a good appointment as he is a manager for the future which is what we need - "who is martin o'neil" is what we heard when he took over and i sure some of you moaned about that and look how that turned out? 26153[/snapback] O'neil had actually achieved things at previous clubs unlike G Mc. Jesus i hope the board have more sense than some of the idiots on here.
Fox 4 Life Posted 12 October 2004 Author Posted 12 October 2004 I don't see how people can get excited at the prospect of Gary Mac. Sure he was a fantastic player and he will play decent football on the ground, but as others have said, he wasn't a huge success at Cov and doesn't have any other managerial experience. If he did come I would like somebody more senior and experienced to work alongside Mac - but ideally I would favour Newell. 26147[/snapback] And Newell has experience does he? Whilst at Cov he had his wife seriously ill so im guessing other things were on his mind, all you lot have such high expectations, you say experience but the only realistic one with exp will be brian little! strachan, robson etc would never come here, gary mac is in my opinion a good appointment as he is a manager for the future which is what we need - "who is martin o'neil" is what we heard when he took over and i sure some of you moaned about that and look how that turned out? 26153[/snapback] O'neil had actually achieved things at previous clubs unlike G Mc. Jesus i hope the board have more sense than some of the idiots on here. 26157[/snapback] So then who would you hire babylon seen as you know SO much? We have to be realistic why would strachan etc want to come to this shit club?
Steven Posted 12 October 2004 Posted 12 October 2004 I don't see how people can get excited at the prospect of Gary Mac. Sure he was a fantastic player and he will play decent football on the ground, but as others have said, he wasn't a huge success at Cov and doesn't have any other managerial experience. If he did come I would like somebody more senior and experienced to work alongside Mac - but ideally I would favour Newell. 26147[/snapback] And Newell has experience does he? Whilst at Cov he had his wife seriously ill so im guessing other things were on his mind, all you lot have such high expectations, you say experience but the only realistic one with exp will be brian little! strachan, robson etc would never come here, gary mac is in my opinion a good appointment as he is a manager for the future which is what we need - "who is martin o'neil" is what we heard when he took over and i sure some of you moaned about that and look how that turned out? 26153[/snapback] O'neil had actually achieved things at previous clubs unlike G Mc. Jesus i hope the board have more sense than some of the idiots on here. 26157[/snapback] Has it crossed your mind that you might be the idiot? <_<
Ric Flair Posted 12 October 2004 Posted 12 October 2004 I don't see how people can get excited at the prospect of Gary Mac. Sure he was a fantastic player and he will play decent football on the ground, but as others have said, he wasn't a huge success at Cov and doesn't have any other managerial experience. If he did come I would like somebody more senior and experienced to work alongside Mac - but ideally I would favour Newell. 26147[/snapback] And Newell has experience does he? Whilst at Cov he had his wife seriously ill so im guessing other things were on his mind, all you lot have such high expectations, you say experience but the only realistic one with exp will be brian little! strachan, robson etc would never come here, gary mac is in my opinion a good appointment as he is a manager for the future which is what we need - "who is martin o'neil" is what we heard when he took over and i sure some of you moaned about that and look how that turned out? 26153[/snapback] O'neil had actually achieved things at previous clubs unlike G Mc. Jesus i hope the board have more sense than some of the idiots on here. 26157[/snapback] How come you are so passionate you don't want Gary Mac, but you fought nail and tooth for Adams who was extremely crap for us in the past year? Gary Mac has been a manager for just over a year and not done brilliant, Adams has been crap for well over a year so they are in a similar position so what has changed? Is it because Adams has promotions under his belt? If so, you could argue that nothing should ever be judged on form then and that we are right to sign players like Dublin, Blake, Pressman, Hignett, Howey, Gillespie, etc because they were all once good. I also have my doubts about Gary, I just thought Babylon would be one of the lads who would think beyond Gary's mediocre managerial record.
Babylon Posted 12 October 2004 Posted 12 October 2004 I don't see how people can get excited at the prospect of Gary Mac. Sure he was a fantastic player and he will play decent football on the ground, but as others have said, he wasn't a huge success at Cov and doesn't have any other managerial experience. If he did come I would like somebody more senior and experienced to work alongside Mac - but ideally I would favour Newell. 26147[/snapback] And Newell has experience does he? Whilst at Cov he had his wife seriously ill so im guessing other things were on his mind, all you lot have such high expectations, you say experience but the only realistic one with exp will be brian little! strachan, robson etc would never come here, gary mac is in my opinion a good appointment as he is a manager for the future which is what we need - "who is martin o'neil" is what we heard when he took over and i sure some of you moaned about that and look how that turned out? 26153[/snapback] O'neil had actually achieved things at previous clubs unlike G Mc. Jesus i hope the board have more sense than some of the idiots on here. 26157[/snapback] Has it crossed your mind that you might be the idiot? <_< 26159[/snapback] its crossed my mind you are
Steven Posted 12 October 2004 Posted 12 October 2004 I don't see how people can get excited at the prospect of Gary Mac. Sure he was a fantastic player and he will play decent football on the ground, but as others have said, he wasn't a huge success at Cov and doesn't have any other managerial experience. If he did come I would like somebody more senior and experienced to work alongside Mac - but ideally I would favour Newell. 26147[/snapback] And Newell has experience does he? Whilst at Cov he had his wife seriously ill so im guessing other things were on his mind, all you lot have such high expectations, you say experience but the only realistic one with exp will be brian little! strachan, robson etc would never come here, gary mac is in my opinion a good appointment as he is a manager for the future which is what we need - "who is martin o'neil" is what we heard when he took over and i sure some of you moaned about that and look how that turned out? 26153[/snapback] O'neil had actually achieved things at previous clubs unlike G Mc. Jesus i hope the board have more sense than some of the idiots on here. 26157[/snapback] Has it crossed your mind that you might be the idiot? <_< 26159[/snapback] its crossed my mind you are 26162[/snapback] What is so wrong with your life, that you need to be abusive to people that do not share the same views as you? <_<
Fox 4 Life Posted 12 October 2004 Author Posted 12 October 2004 Come on then Babylon who do u think we should get - Sir Alex? Arsene?
Babylon Posted 12 October 2004 Posted 12 October 2004 I don't see how people can get excited at the prospect of Gary Mac. Sure he was a fantastic player and he will play decent football on the ground, but as others have said, he wasn't a huge success at Cov and doesn't have any other managerial experience. If he did come I would like somebody more senior and experienced to work alongside Mac - but ideally I would favour Newell. 26147[/snapback] And Newell has experience does he? Whilst at Cov he had his wife seriously ill so im guessing other things were on his mind, all you lot have such high expectations, you say experience but the only realistic one with exp will be brian little! strachan, robson etc would never come here, gary mac is in my opinion a good appointment as he is a manager for the future which is what we need - "who is martin o'neil" is what we heard when he took over and i sure some of you moaned about that and look how that turned out? 26153[/snapback] O'neil had actually achieved things at previous clubs unlike G Mc. Jesus i hope the board have more sense than some of the idiots on here. 26157[/snapback] How come you are so passionate you don't want Gary Mac, but you fought nail and tooth for Adams who was extremely crap for us in the past year? Gary Mac has been a manager for just over a year and not done brilliant, Adams has been crap for well over a year so they are in a similar position so what has changed? Is it because Adams has promotions under his belt? If so, you could argue that nothing should ever be judged on form then and that we are right to sign players like Dublin, Blake, Pressman, Hignett, Howey, Gillespie, etc because they were all once good. I also have my doubts about Gary, I just thought Babylon would be one of the lads who would think beyond Gary's mediocre managerial record. 26161[/snapback] They are not in the same position though as G Mac has NEVER been a good manager, where as MA has been a very good one. To say we have been shit for over a year is rubbish, we were in the premier and favourites to go down... did you expect us to win every game?? Everyone got on MA back this year saying we should be doing better as we were favourites for promotion. So why have a go about last year when we were favourites to be relegated. Of course you should be judged on form.. the only reason we were signing the older out of form players is because that is all we could afford. We had no Money remember. If we can only afford someone of G Macs ability then we have to accept that. Thankfully form managers are alot cheaper than form players, so i believe we should be going for someone who is on form!!
Babylon Posted 12 October 2004 Posted 12 October 2004 I don't see how people can get excited at the prospect of Gary Mac. Sure he was a fantastic player and he will play decent football on the ground, but as others have said, he wasn't a huge success at Cov and doesn't have any other managerial experience. If he did come I would like somebody more senior and experienced to work alongside Mac - but ideally I would favour Newell. 26147[/snapback] And Newell has experience does he? Whilst at Cov he had his wife seriously ill so im guessing other things were on his mind, all you lot have such high expectations, you say experience but the only realistic one with exp will be brian little! strachan, robson etc would never come here, gary mac is in my opinion a good appointment as he is a manager for the future which is what we need - "who is martin o'neil" is what we heard when he took over and i sure some of you moaned about that and look how that turned out? 26153[/snapback] O'neil had actually achieved things at previous clubs unlike G Mc. Jesus i hope the board have more sense than some of the idiots on here. 26157[/snapback] Has it crossed your mind that you might be the idiot? <_< 26159[/snapback] its crossed my mind you are 26162[/snapback] What is so wrong with your life, that you need to be abusive to people that do not share the same views as you? <_< 26163[/snapback] In my opinion saying that some people on here are idiots for suggesting G Mac is a fact rather than abuse. I mean the guy was comparing the appointment of MON who had already achieved a great deal before we appointed him, to us appointing G Mac..... !!!!!! Kookoo!!!!
davieG Posted 12 October 2004 Posted 12 October 2004 I with Babylon on this Gary MAcs record is appalling (21 wins in 76 games. Or in other words less than 13 wins a season. Just about mid-table if you are lucky. Brief Spell = 18 months.) Don't get me wrong Gary Mc was an excellent player but this talk of him being our manager is at best looking through rose coloured spectacles and at worse utter bolloxs - to quote a Cov fan from the Foxs Fanzine Site: There are plenty of your fans talking about Garry Macca as a future manager. The only good thing about Garry Mac as player manager for Cov was Garry Mac the player. His 18 month reign was attrocious - he brought in some truely dreadful players Dean Holdsworth 1 goal in 21 games, Dean Gordon, Dele Adebole Vincente Engonge ( who yes a Spanish 37 year old)a certain Steve Walsh for a game that we lost 5-2. He has the worst win ratio of any Cov manager, he managed the club through its worst run ever just avoiding relegation in his first season. He got rid of our younger players Eustace, Boothroyd McSheffery prefering to use unheard of loan players or established loan players who just did not want to play for the club - Matt Jansen in particular. He was such a popular player, and also due to his family circumstances the fans never got on his back but his period as manager was a shambles. Spirit of 87 Does that sound like a someone to take this club forward - No thought NOT As for other choices Well Eric Black improved Cov no end after Garry Mac left then theres Mike Newell (Luton) Gary Johnson (Yeovil) Martin Allen (Brentford) Andy King (Swindon) Ian Holloway (QPR) Craig Levein (Hearts) Terry Butcher (Motherwell) Dave Penney (Doncaster) All these have served or are serving their apprenticeship and would be a much better option. Of course that's MY opinion made up after looking at the facts.
Babylon Posted 12 October 2004 Posted 12 October 2004 Come on then Babylon who do u think we should get - Sir Alex? Arsene? 26166[/snapback] look at that link.... gives you my opinions of the runnners and riders who i believe will fit the criteria LCFC will of set out. There are probaly another 3 names i would take off that list since i posted it yesterday. http://www.foxestalk.co.uk/forums/index.ph...opic=1580&st=40
Hullfox Posted 12 October 2004 Posted 12 October 2004 I don't see how people can get excited at the prospect of Gary Mac. Sure he was a fantastic player and he will play decent football on the ground, but as others have said, he wasn't a huge success at Cov and doesn't have any other managerial experience. If he did come I would like somebody more senior and experienced to work alongside Mac - but ideally I would favour Newell. 26147[/snapback] And Newell has experience does he? Whilst at Cov he had his wife seriously ill so im guessing other things were on his mind, all you lot have such high expectations, you say experience but the only realistic one with exp will be brian little! strachan, robson etc would never come here, gary mac is in my opinion a good appointment as he is a manager for the future which is what we need - "who is martin o'neil" is what we heard when he took over and i sure some of you moaned about that and look how that turned out? 26153[/snapback] O'neil had actually achieved things at previous clubs unlike G Mc. Jesus i hope the board have more sense than some of the idiots on here. 26157[/snapback] Has it crossed your mind that you might be the idiot? <_< 26159[/snapback] its crossed my mind you are 26162[/snapback] What is so wrong with your life, that you need to be abusive to people that do not share the same views as you? <_< 26163[/snapback] I've no doubt that Babylon can stand up for himself but it seems to me that you called him an idiot so what's wrong with your life that you need to be abusive....?
Ric Flair Posted 12 October 2004 Posted 12 October 2004 To be perfectly honest i'm not overly keen on Gary Mac, it's horrible being a Leicester fan at the minute. I can't remember the last time I felt good about Leicester, what's it like to cheer? I have forgot, I have seen Leicester win once in about a season and a half and that was against Portsmouth last season. The only games I missed at home last season were Leeds, Blackburn and Brum. Out of our 3 wins at home, 2 of them were when I wasn't present. Also the only home match i've missed this season was against Sheff United, I am wondering wheher I am the root cause of City's demise. I don't give a shit who we appoint aslong as we sort things out, now I know that's a pretty crap thing to say as it's not as easy as that but I really can't face giving people anymore abuse. I'm sick and tired of it, I just want someone to come in with fresh ideas and who is honest enough to know what needs to be done. Someone who won't take any shit from the players, but also will be reasonable with them in due course. Someone who will command respect, someone who will learn from their mistakes and someone who will give people a chance. Whoever fits that bill get them in, forget their past just get them in. Take a gamble, but make sure it pays off. I know this sounds unrealistic, but please.
Steven Posted 12 October 2004 Posted 12 October 2004 I don't see how people can get excited at the prospect of Gary Mac. Sure he was a fantastic player and he will play decent football on the ground, but as others have said, he wasn't a huge success at Cov and doesn't have any other managerial experience. If he did come I would like somebody more senior and experienced to work alongside Mac - but ideally I would favour Newell. 26147[/snapback] And Newell has experience does he? Whilst at Cov he had his wife seriously ill so im guessing other things were on his mind, all you lot have such high expectations, you say experience but the only realistic one with exp will be brian little! strachan, robson etc would never come here, gary mac is in my opinion a good appointment as he is a manager for the future which is what we need - "who is martin o'neil" is what we heard when he took over and i sure some of you moaned about that and look how that turned out? 26153[/snapback] O'neil had actually achieved things at previous clubs unlike G Mc. Jesus i hope the board have more sense than some of the idiots on here. 26157[/snapback] Has it crossed your mind that you might be the idiot? <_< 26159[/snapback] its crossed my mind you are 26162[/snapback] What is so wrong with your life, that you need to be abusive to people that do not share the same views as you? <_< 26163[/snapback] I've no doubt that Babylon can stand up for himself but it seems to me that you called him an idiot so what's wrong with your life that you need to be abusive....? 26177[/snapback] Two things. Show me where I call him an idiot. Second Babylon has a history of being abusive to a number of other forum members.
Babylon Posted 12 October 2004 Posted 12 October 2004 I don't see how people can get excited at the prospect of Gary Mac. Sure he was a fantastic player and he will play decent football on the ground, but as others have said, he wasn't a huge success at Cov and doesn't have any other managerial experience. If he did come I would like somebody more senior and experienced to work alongside Mac - but ideally I would favour Newell. 26147[/snapback] And Newell has experience does he? Whilst at Cov he had his wife seriously ill so im guessing other things were on his mind, all you lot have such high expectations, you say experience but the only realistic one with exp will be brian little! strachan, robson etc would never come here, gary mac is in my opinion a good appointment as he is a manager for the future which is what we need - "who is martin o'neil" is what we heard when he took over and i sure some of you moaned about that and look how that turned out? 26153[/snapback] O'neil had actually achieved things at previous clubs unlike G Mc. Jesus i hope the board have more sense than some of the idiots on here. 26157[/snapback] Has it crossed your mind that you might be the idiot? <_< 26159[/snapback] its crossed my mind you are 26162[/snapback] What is so wrong with your life, that you need to be abusive to people that do not share the same views as you? <_< 26163[/snapback] I've no doubt that Babylon can stand up for himself but it seems to me that you called him an idiot so what's wrong with your life that you need to be abusive....? 26177[/snapback] Two things. Show me where I call him an idiot. Second Babylon has a history of being abusive to a number of other forum members. 26179[/snapback] err excuse me!! thats complete rubbish ask scow and petrescu. I called you an idiot once on another forum. Liar.
Scow Posted 12 October 2004 Posted 12 October 2004 Can we get back on topic please? I don't want to close this thread..... I personally don't think Gary Mac is the right man for the job. We either need to appoint someone who has a (successful) track record, or someone up and coming showing immense promise - i.e. Dave Penney. This is where the problem lies - There is no outstanding candidates out there who we could realistically attract. Alot of people, including myself, did mention on a number of occasions that while Adams was clearly not up to the job, there was no real replacement out there.
Ric Flair Posted 12 October 2004 Posted 12 October 2004 Adams had to go though, he just had to. His position had become untenable and I honestly think that the majority of managers out there wouldn't do a worser job in the short term. So that leaves us with the two plonkers we have on a temporary basis, the board have got to be strong in their minds that these two cowboys are only here until we get our long term manager in. They need to act quick and pick their main target and go for it, I would go for Mike Newell or Dave Penny. Either one of these would fit the bill in my eyes, they won't cost a great deal either in compensation or wages. If the board want experience then they are going to have to pay for it, there is no use going for pointless experience such as Gregory, Bryan Robson, Wilkinson or Bassett. They need to pay big for Strachan, George Graham or Bobby Robson. This won't happen, so they have got to turn their targets to Newell or Penny and quick. Inexperienced managers are a gamble, but they are a bigger gamble if they haven't got a good record in the little time they've managed - Gary McCallister, Tony Cottee, etc. Newell or Penny are doing well currently and they are in the winning habit, so they might just well transfer it over to our team. Newell or Penny. My choice would be Newell.
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