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Freedom of speech vs. sacred religious beliefs

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It's the fault of all those religious muppets out there who can't live in peace with the rest of us, it's about time we took to the streets of London and had a protest against religion, it's more trouble then it's worth!

Exactly

it's only takes 2 minuites to reallise what a load of rubish the religion islam is, how far fetched it is, and how much prophesised has been flase.

Posted

This is the whole point. It is all about manipulation of images and peoples for hurtful intent. :huh::unsure::( <_<

Yeh but come on Steven, if it's not the cartoons it'll be something else, these people want everything their own way, they think it's fine to be Anti-Semitic but someone does something against Islam and we have them taking to the streets burning foreign embassies.

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I hate islam the religion that teaches people this rubish, but I also hate the people that carry out such things as killing hundreds of people in the name of the religion, is that racist?

If you're trying to imply that all Muslims are bombers and murderers, then it's not far removed from racism.

Otherwise, what you say is fine, imo.

Posted

It's the fault of all those religious muppets out there who can't live in peace with the rest of us, it's about time we took to the streets of London and had a protest against religion, it's more trouble then it's worth!

Spot on! :thumbup:

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If you're trying to imply that all Muslims are bombers and murderers, then it's not far removed from racism.

Otherwise, what you say is fine, imo.

There are a large amount of muslims who are like that though, and those that are don't give the religion a good impression no wonder they're hated so much. If the majority are great loverly people then it's ashame for them because the main image you get of muslims is of people full of hate and violence.

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There are a large amount of muslims who are like that though, and those that are don't give the religion a good impression no wonder they're hated so much. If the majority are great loverly people then it's ashame for them because the main image you get of muslims is of people full of hate and violence.

In the main the image you get of football supporter is as load mouthed, drunken, violent hooligans who are not interested in the game but just looking for trouble. It doesn't mean the majority are or even more than a small minority as you well know.

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The problem we have is that the hardliners have hijacked Islam for their own agenda and in doing so have alienised not just Muslims but all people who look like they could be Muslims.

I used to work with hundreds of Hindu's and I couldn't wish to meet or work with nicer people and when you consider that the only difference between Hindu's and Muslim's is their religion then they must get their hatred for western society from their religion.

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They way I look at it is though, and this may sound racist, but islam is not a traditional English religion, it is one that has only been around within the last century. So basically people have been coming to this country and terrorising it's people. A lot of those people in London this week are not British but they come to our country and scare the shit out of innocent people, It's a disgrace.

I wouldn't dream of going to another country and treating it the way they do to England.

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Yeh but come on Steven, if it's not the cartoons it'll be something else, these people want everything their own way, they think it's fine to be Anti-Semitic but someone does something against Islam and we have them taking to the streets burning foreign embassies.

Ask yourself this. Is it any wonder that Muslims feel under threat when two Muslim countires are invaded. When Iran gets villified by the IAEA for their nuclear program when both India and Isreal don't even allow inspections. When Israel has occupied land it has not right to for nearly 40 years and in that time routinely shot and killed those living there and pulled their houses down. When Ariel Sharon lets Right-Wing "Christians" slaughter Palestinians in Shabra and Chatila.

Then there is all this kind of crap coming out of Denmark. Ask yourself how you would feel under those circumstances.

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Ask yourself this. Is it any wonder that Muslims feel under threat when two Muslim countires are invaded. When Iran gets villified by the IAEA for their nuclear program when both India and Isreal don't even allow inspections. When Israel has occupied land it has not right to for nearly 40 years and in that time routinely shot and killed those living there and pulled their houses down. When Ariel Sharon lets Right-Wing "Christians" slaughter Palestinians in Shabra and Chatila.

Then there is all this kind of crap coming out of Denmark. Ask yourself how you would feel under those circumstances.

The politics of the Middle East are far too complex for me to even try and understand.

What I would say is that the IAEA probably don't have any reason to want to inspect India and Israel, ok we all know they have an active nuclear program but I'd guess it's a far cry from what the Iranians are trying to do!

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The politics of the Middle East are far too complex for me to even try and understand.

What I would say is that the IAEA probably don't have any reason to want to inspect India and Israel, ok we all know they have an active nuclear program but I'd guess it's a far cry from what the Iranians are trying to do!

Indians have nuclear weapons and the Iranians do not, yet. :cry: As for the Israelis they probably do having stolen the technology from the Americans. :cry::( <_<

Posted

Indians have nuclear weapons and the Iranians do not, yet. :cry: As for the Israelis they probably do having stolen the technology from the Americans. :cry::( <_<

They have, but only because they were not part of a dis-armament program like the Yanks and Ruskies.

As far as I know they no longer manufacture them :unsure:

They are also not what you would call a nuclear threat, unless you live in Pakistan, but then again Pakistan have nuclear weapons or had you forgotten that?

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They have, but only because they were not part of a dis-armament program like the Yanks and Ruskies.

As far as I know they no longer manufacture them :unsure:

They are also not what you would call a nuclear threat, unless you live in Pakistan, but then again Pakistan have nuclear weapons or had you forgotten that?

The Indians were first and the Pakistanis are subject to IAEA inspections. It is however a plie of crap. It is all about money and in the pursuit of oil money the Muslims, Israelis and Danes are allowing themselves to be manipulated by a group of people (Big Oil) who don't give a flying fcuk.

To that end this man is one of the most dangerous men in the World. :( <_<

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The embassy in Beirut, Lebanon has now also been burned down... This so-called caricature has triggered something big...

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Ask yourself this. Is it any wonder that Muslims feel under threat when two Muslim countires are invaded. When Iran gets villified by the IAEA for their nuclear program when both India and Isreal don't even allow inspections. When Israel has occupied land it has not right to for nearly 40 years and in that time routinely shot and killed those living there and pulled their houses down. When Ariel Sharon lets Right-Wing "Christians" slaughter Palestinians in Shabra and Chatila.

Then there is all this kind of crap coming out of Denmark. Ask yourself how you would feel under those circumstances.

what an absolute load of crap - Israel has existed for 40+ years what do u think they should do pack up and leave now? They've moved out of Gaza and the West Bank (land which they seized when invaded by three muslim states) what more can they do? Poor old Palestine eh how many suicide bombings have Israel had to put up with its 7/7 more or less every week for them

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what an absolute load of crap - Israel has existed for 40+ years what do u think they should do pack up and leave now? They've moved out of Gaza and the West Bank (land which they seized when invaded by three muslim states) what more can they do? Poor old Palestine eh how many suicide bombings have Israel had to put up with its 7/7 more or less every week for them

... and the French Resistance were a bunch of terrorists. :rolleyes: Who is still occupying whose land. :rolleyes:

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... and the French Resistance were a bunch of terrorists. :rolleyes: Who is still occupying whose land. :rolleyes:

Your actually condoning terrorist attacks in Israel? Do you therefore believe IRA scum were justified in there terrorist attacks?

as for occupying land there is no other option but a two nation state what else can you do?

Posted

Your actually condoning terrorist attacks in Israel? Do you therefore believe IRA scum were justified in there terrorist attacks?

as for occupying land there is no other option but a two nation state what else can you do?

Don't put words in my mouth. All I am saying is that Israel's (and anyone else) case for describing these people as terrorists would be greatly enhanced if Israel withrew to their 1967 borders. Clearly policies in Israel have failed in terms of internal security and so one seriously questions why the Israelis continue on the path they do unless they want to, and if so for what purpose.

You would do well to look at a situation dispassionately rather than bringing your own prejudices to it.

In terms of the IRA they ultimately realised the folly of their own policies and no I do not want to continue supporting a load of Protestant bigots in NI.

Posted

i thank tony blair for going to war with iraq itwas needed and should have been done a long time ago

And we have alot to thank america for i mean if they hadnt paid the IRA for 35 years we wouldnt have known how to deal with terrorist attacks thankyou america.

It also goes to show what a piss pot religion islam really is that they get offended by cartoons w*****s

Posted

what an absolute load of crap - Israel has existed for 40+ years what do u think they should do pack up and leave now? They've moved out of Gaza and the West Bank (land which they seized when invaded by three muslim states) what more can they do? Poor old Palestine eh how many suicide bombings have Israel had to put up with its 7/7 more or less every week for them

They call it 24/7

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It also goes to show what a piss pot religion islam really is that they get offended by cartoons w*****s

I think it's the extremists, mainly...

I am extremely worried about any religion/belief that is very strict though...

it just cannot be a good thing!

Posted

I was referring to the July the 7th attacks

I think he's playing on the words a bit to emphasise they live with it 24/7.

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