Strokes Posted 1 June 2006 Posted 1 June 2006 I'm sure the people who lost their homes and jobs would agree whole heartedly with you on that! The biggest recession in recent history...... She started with the recession, but that was an inherited timebomb she put the foundations in for growth that we have now. Why not ask Gisela Stuart the labour MP that stated just this the other day?
DanTheFoxBhoy Posted 1 June 2006 Posted 1 June 2006 You're right it's not just foreigners, but it seems the majority are. Some areas in London are an absolute disgrace! When you travel around the public transport system it’s so bloody cramped it’s ridiculous. But that’s another matter. I have nothing wrong with the people who come here with intention to work and respect the area and the culture of Britain but not people who drain everything they can of the taxpayers, change road signs and isolate themselves from everyone else. We don't really live in multicultural society because most religious people segregate their own communities. Why do people come here then start walking around Islington with hate slogans against the country they born and live in? It’s terrible! I really appreciate the Indian and Caribbean families that came here in the 60’ – 70’s and started up business and have contributed to the community very well, but on the other hand most people coming here now are parasites. We let these people get away it; no other country in world would tolerate the sh1t some of the people get away with here! That's another good point. If there's anything that shits me more than an arsehole, it's an isolationist. I read a story a while ago that there was this Italian bloke who refused to pay some kind of fine, because he couldn't read the road sign and he'd been here 40 years. It's also important to acknowledge that these behavioural characteristics are not inherent to race, but rather to individual. For every group of immigrints that doesn't want to assimilate, there must be at least ten groups that do! It's all about choice, and bad choices should be rebuked, but entire races shouldn't be victimised.
Head Honcho Posted 1 June 2006 Posted 1 June 2006 The gits took my motorbike last night ... but forgot their boltcroppers they'd hidden. Hopefully the retards left their prints on them. I am SO f**k1ng anoyed. I hope their assholes become pustulant homes to a million diseases. AAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH! Last week some retard walked out of one of my shops with the Cancer Research box, after showing the police the CCTV footage they told us he was arrested 1/2 an hour later for another unrelated crime. I had a still of the footage blown up. It's now in the window for all to see, with a big thank you note from us all.
DanTheFoxBhoy Posted 1 June 2006 Posted 1 June 2006 I hate Thatcher. She ran this country into the ground. It's largely her fault that Britain is now a violent, crime-riddled hellhole beset by all manner of social problems. But I'm not sure you can blame her for the 'murder' of Bobby Sands. That would be just as asinine as blaming Blair for the murder of London bomber Mohammad Sidique Khan. You're right - nevertheless it was an emotional and contentious topic at the time and hence the poster. The one thing we have to thank her for is the success of Sinn Féin in subsequent elections. Who would have thought that they would be the ones to lead the front of their cause, and learn to say 'yes' when the conservatives were still trying to say 'maybe.'
Dr The Singh Posted 1 June 2006 Posted 1 June 2006 That's another good point. If there's anything that shits me more than an arsehole, it's an isolationist. I read a story a while ago that there was this Italian bloke who refused to pay some kind of fine, because he couldn't read the road sign and he'd been here 40 years. It's also important to acknowledge that these behavioural characteristics are not inherent to race, but rather to individual. For every group of immigrints that doesn't want to assimilate, there must be at least ten groups that do! It's all about choice, and bad choices should be rebuked, but entire races shouldn't be victimised. Good Point
Daggers Posted 1 June 2006 Author Posted 1 June 2006 No i decided not to continue debating with you, because you can't accept it when people don't agree with you. You have still failed to address a single point I asked you evidence which kind of leaves you as some BNP sympathiser devoid of any ability to debate by using resourced material, fact or logic. You continue to back away due to the fact that you are unable to justify your support for a nazi organisation. Your use of generalised statements "you can't accept it when people don't agree with you" says rather a lot about you and your political sympathies. Where have I demonstrated that? There, add that onto the ever growing list of things you are unable to repsond to.
DanTheFoxBhoy Posted 1 June 2006 Posted 1 June 2006 Good Point Thanks buddy! Good to see a bit of backslapping going around such a controversial topic I think everyone who has commented on this race-issue has acknowledged the important role played by individualism.
Strokes Posted 1 June 2006 Posted 1 June 2006 You have still failed to address a single point I asked you evidence which kind of leaves you as some BNP sympathiser devoid of any ability to debate by using resourced material, fact or logic. You continue to back away due to the fact that you are unable to justify your support for a nazi organisation. Your use of generalised statements "you can't accept it when people don't agree with you" says rather a lot about you and your political sympathies. Where have I demonstrated that? There, add that onto the ever growing list of things you are unable to repsond to. Right ok, for last time, my vote is not essentially related to race but more to policy's about Europe and Human Rights issues, I don't feel my vote will get BNP in power but it may make people listen. I don't believe they are a Nazi party as you call them and although you're evidence is pretty damning, i know three people who have been convicted of racially agrevated assult just for a fight involving asians, which was started by the asian lads. So it holds no water with me. Oh and btw, if you had actually read my posts you would have seen that i wasn't trying to get you or anyone to agree with me, i was just airing my opinion.
Dr The Singh Posted 1 June 2006 Posted 1 June 2006 Right ok, for last time, my vote is not essentially related to race but more to policy's about Europe and Human Rights issues, I don't feel my vote will get BNP in power but it may make people listen. I don't believe they are a Nazi party as you call them and although you're evidence is pretty damning, i know three people who have been convicted of racially agrevated assult just for a fight involving asians, which was started by the asian lads. So it holds no water with me. A mate of mine (white) was sent down, for 18 months for racially aggravated affrey, again it was not racial but it is another law that overly protects the minority and makes it an easy tool for someone to abuse. The funny thing though, 2 of my mates which are both Sikh, testified for him and he still got sent down!!!
Strokes Posted 1 June 2006 Posted 1 June 2006 A mate of mine (white) was sent down, for 18 months for racially aggravated affrey, again it was not racial but it is another law that overly protects the minority and makes it an easy tool for someone to abuse. The funny thing though, 2 of my mates which are both Sikh, testified for him and he still got sent down!!! Horrible isn't it, i feel for my friends as they will now have walk around with the racist label on them, when they get out.
Dr The Singh Posted 1 June 2006 Posted 1 June 2006 Horrible isn't it, i feel for my friends as they will now have walk around with the racist label on them, when they get out. The law in this country is a disgrace, pop stars, foot players etc get off with nothing, and yet for a first time offence get sent down. My mate, is distraught, he was a law student at DMU, and now his career is ruined!!!
Master Fox Posted 1 June 2006 Posted 1 June 2006 A mate of mine (white) was sent down, for 18 months for racially aggravated affrey, again it was not racial but it is another law that overly protects the minority and makes it an easy tool for someone to abuse. The funny thing though, 2 of my mates which are both Sikh, testified for him and he still got sent down!!! That's terrible!
Strokes Posted 1 June 2006 Posted 1 June 2006 The law in this country is a disgrace, pop stars, foot players etc get off with nothing, and yet for a first time offence get sent down. My mate, is distraught, he was a law student at DMU, and now his career is ruined!!! What a waste, well he could always become a BNP politician (sorry i couldn't resist)
Guest Posted 1 June 2006 Posted 1 June 2006 She started with the recession, but that was an inherited timebomb she put the foundations in for growth that we have now. Why not ask Gisela Stuart the labour MP that stated just this the other day? No, she started the recession, because her Government could not manage the country's economy. She did not lay any foundations, there was a desparate attempt by the Conservatives after she left No. 10, but the stability of this country came much too late to give her any credit for it. FFS, public services are still living under that woman's legacy.
Dr The Singh Posted 1 June 2006 Posted 1 June 2006 What a waste, well he could always become a BNP politician (sorry i couldn't resist) Do you think there would be a job for me there......The Singh - the first brown BNP politician!!!
Strokes Posted 1 June 2006 Posted 1 June 2006 No, she started the recession, because her Government could not manage the country's economy. She did not lay any foundations, there was a desparate attempt by the Conservatives after she left No. 10, but the stability of this country came much too late to give her any credit for it. FFS, public services are still living under that woman's legacy. I love the way you can give her public services, but not the economy. Well if this goverment can sort out the disatorous economy left by the conservatives, surely they could have sorted out the PS and the NHS Also the German chancellor (her name escapes me) actually won the election on promises to make there economy stable using the Maggie Thatcher blue print, she must be mad, either that or she's a german with a sense of humor.
Strokes Posted 1 June 2006 Posted 1 June 2006 Do you think there would be a job for me there......The Singh - the first brown BNP politician!!! Why the hell not, i'm sure they would welcome you with open arms.
Guest Posted 1 June 2006 Posted 1 June 2006 I love the way you can give her public services, but not the economy. Well if this goverment can sort out the disatorous economy left by the conservatives, surely they could have sorted out the PS and the NHS Also the German chancellor (her name escapes me) actually won the election on promises to make there economy stable using the Maggie Thatcher blue print, she must be mad, either that or she's a german with a sense of humor. Public services rely entirely on the Government. The economy does not.
Strokes Posted 1 June 2006 Posted 1 June 2006 Public services rely entirely on the Government. The economy does not. Exactly, we should have improved public services by now, Maggie obviously didn't have alot to spend in a country in recession (which was not entirly the goverments fault), where as now we have plenty to spend on public services and they are still crap
Guest Posted 1 June 2006 Posted 1 June 2006 Exactly, we should have improved public services by now, Maggie obviously didn't have alot to spend in a country in recession (which was not entirly the goverments fault), where as now we have plenty to spend on public services and they are still crap Or maybe public services were so low that it will take longer to sort out the mess than it did to get into it in the first place?
Strokes Posted 1 June 2006 Posted 1 June 2006 Or maybe public services were so low that it will take longer to sort out the mess than it did to get into it in the first place? Looks like we are down to opinion again never mind Lisa, surely we can agree to disagree over this one? Even you're not that stubborn..........................Are you?
Guest Posted 1 June 2006 Posted 1 June 2006 Looks like we are down to opinion again never mind Lisa, surely we can agree to disagree over this one? Even you're not that stubborn..........................Are you? Perhaps a little..... I also like a good argument, or so it has been told.
macbeth Posted 1 June 2006 Posted 1 June 2006 Perhaps a little..... I also like a good argument, or so it has been told. nothing wrong with that oh yes there is !!!! even some food disagrees with me!!
Strokes Posted 1 June 2006 Posted 1 June 2006 Perhaps a little..... I also like a good argument, or so it has been told. I'm partial to a good arguement myself, but i can see if we keep going down this path i will contradict myself sooner or later, as i really don't know that much about living in the eighties (i was only nine when they ended, and not really interested in politics then).
Head Honcho Posted 1 June 2006 Posted 1 June 2006 Public services rely entirely on the Government. The economy does not. Not entirely true. The amount of council tax wasted on civil servants sitting on their arse all day and being used to fund their pensions would run a small country! Council's up and down the country need a huge shake-up, not until then will our services be up to the standard we expect. Then we can start on the scroungers who pay nothing towards their keep!
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