Bert Posted 20 June 2006 Posted 20 June 2006 Robbo - 6 - One decent save, Should talk to his defence more and should've saved their 2nd. Carragher - 6 - Average Performance A Cole - 6 - Decent Link Up with J Cole Rio - 7 - Didn't put a foot wrong imo. JT - 7 - A colossus, they never really broke him down. Becks - 6 - Decent work-rate, and an amazing pass to Big Wayne. J Cole - 8 - MOTM, An amazing goal, a lovely assist, always looked a threat. Lampard - 7 Looked better when given his freedom. Hargreaves - 7 - Done what he had to and done it well. Owen N/A Rooney - 7 - Considering his lack of matches, he looked qute good. Crouch - 6 - Nothing major from him. Campbell - 6 Some Timely Tackles. Gerrard - 7 - A goal energy and enthusiasm.
Ultra Posted 20 June 2006 Posted 20 June 2006 Robinson - 6 (couple of decent saves, shaky on crosses though) Carragher - 6 (adequate replacement for Gary Neville but nothing more) Terry - 5 (nowhere near the standard of the first two games) Ferdinand - 7 (was doing well until his injury) A. Cole - 6 (looked good going forward but not so hot in his own half) Beckham - 6 (contributed nothing apart from setpieces) Hargreaves - 7 (best game for a long time) Lampard - 6 (good first half, anonymous in the second) J. Cole - 8 (superb goal, excellent assist, deserved man of the match) Rooney - 5 (tried hard but was off the pace) Owen - wasn't on long enough for a mark Subs: Crouch - 5 (rarely a threat) Campbell - 5 (looked rusty) Gerrard - 7 (telling contributions at both ends)
Jay Posted 21 June 2006 Posted 21 June 2006 6 for everyone except.... Beckham 3 can't captain,can't pass, can't tackle, can't run, and certainly can't head wasted every free kick and set piece imo it's time people woke up and realised that he hasn't scored from a free kick for 4years and give others a chance!! I am sure people will have a go saying how wonderfull he is but I took my Beckham tinted specs off a long time ago he was a waste of a player yesterday!! Hargreaves 8 excellent game after everything that has been said and written about him Joe Cole out of 10... 12 best player my a mile brilliant to watch our player of the tournament!!
Thracian Posted 21 June 2006 Posted 21 June 2006 Robinson 6 (But one vital save) Carragher 5 (what's he for?) Terry 6 Ferdinand 6.5 Ashley Cole 6 Beckham 4 Lampard 5 Hargraves 6.5 Joe Cole 9 Owen 0 Rooney 5 subs: Crouch 7 Gerrard 7 Campbell 4
macbeth Posted 21 June 2006 Posted 21 June 2006 all the players deserve great credit for having to work with that useless overpaid excuse for a manager he's sent our three lions out ;having first kicked all their teeth in he should receive a public flogging for his inexcusable squad selection
Steven Posted 21 June 2006 Posted 21 June 2006 Robinson 6 (But one vital save) Carragher 5 (what's he for?) Terry 6 Ferdinand 6.5 Ashley Cole 6 Beckham 4 Lampard 5 Hargraves 6.5 Joe Cole 9 Owen 0 Rooney 5 subs: Crouch 7 Gerrard 7 Campbell 4 I think the Joe Cole and Crouch marks are a little high.
loza15 Posted 21 June 2006 Posted 21 June 2006 Hargreaves is the most naturally holding player we have. I was hoping that Lampard would get booked.
macbeth Posted 21 June 2006 Posted 21 June 2006 Hargreaves is the most naturally holding player we have. I was hoping that Lampard would get booked. i was hoping that sven would be arrested for fraud and a proper england coach would be allowed to reselect the squad
Babylon Posted 21 June 2006 Posted 21 June 2006 JT - 7 - A colossus, they never really broke him down. Is this the same JT that for the second goal jumped under the ball and mised his clearing header. On top of the first goal where he had the chance to clear the ball and with a shocking piece of control gave the ball back to sweden who got a corner and then scored. Put two players around Robinson and our defence goes to pot at set pieces. Robinson 6 Carragher 5.25 (shocking distribution) Terry 5 (At fault for two goals Ferdinand 6 (To many long balls instead of looking short) Ashley Cole 6 (steady) Beckham 5.75 (brought nothing) Lampard 5.75 (brought nothing) Hargraves 7 (good performance, did all you can ask for his role) Joe Cole 8 (outstanding first half, got marked out of it in the 2nd) Owen 0 (Oh dear) Rooney 6.25 (steady, odd touch of class) subs: Crouch 6 Gerrard 7 Campbell 6
Thracian Posted 21 June 2006 Posted 21 June 2006 I think the Joe Cole and Crouch marks are a little high. Well we wouldn't have scored our two goals, probably wouldn't have drawn nor topped the group unbeaten were it not for JoeCo's contribution and the little fella did play himself to exhaustion which is more than can be said for some. But you could be right. After awarding so many unusually low marks perhaps on reflection I felt like cheering myself up and expressing some appreciation. Ironically, before reading your comment, I was thinking I liked aspects of Babylon's assessment - and a few others - better than my own.
shen Posted 21 June 2006 Posted 21 June 2006 Is this the same JT that for the second goal jumped under the ball and mised his clearing header. On top of the first goal where he had the chance to clear the ball and with a shocking piece of control gave the ball back to sweden who got a corner and then scored. Put two players around Robinson and our defence goes to pot at set pieces. Robinson 6 Carragher 5.5 (shocking distribution) Terry 5 (Parlty at fault for two goals) Ferdinand 7 (To many long balls instead of looking short, but marked Larsson out of the game) Ashley Cole 6 (steady) Beckham 5.75 (brought nothing. Poor set pieces too) Lampard 6.5 (stretched the Swedes out in the first half, distributing play well. Anonymous in the 2nd) Hargraves 7.5 (good performance, did all you can ask for his role) Joe Cole 9 (world class in the first half, ever dangerous when in possession. Excellent assist too) Owen N/A (Oh dear) Rooney 6.25 (steady, odd touch of class) subs: Crouch 6 Gerrard 7 Campbell 6 edits in bold
Daggers Posted 21 June 2006 Posted 21 June 2006 Robinson 5 - a very poor performance, looking unsettled too often Carragher 4 - again, looked ill at ease Terry 5 - no confidence, poor judgement & positioning Ferdinand 6 - ok until going off Ashley Cole 5 - good 1st half, anonymous in the second Beckham 2 - Poor passing, poor crossing, poor dead balls Lampard 5 - plodded on unspectacularly Hargraves 7 - suprisingly competant, got stuck in and ran a lot Joe Cole 7 - magnificent warning to the world Owen - bye bye to a player that should never have been at the tourno Rooney 7 - wish he'd thrown a boot at Svennis subs: Crouch 4 - poor control, poor vision, impotent in the box Gerrard 7 - bought some bollox to the tourno Campbell 5 - seemed like a fish out of water
shen Posted 21 June 2006 Posted 21 June 2006 Robinson 5 - a very poor performance, looking unsettled too often Carragher 4 - again, looked ill at ease Terry 5 - no confidence, poor judgement & positioning Ferdinand 6 - ok until going off Ashley Cole 5 - good 1st half, anonymous in the second Beckham 2 - Poor passing, poor crossing, poor dead balls Lampard 5 - plodded on unspectacularly Hargraves 7 - suprisingly competant, got stuck in and ran a lot Joe Cole 7 - magnificent warning to the world Owen - bye bye to a player that should never have been at the tourno Rooney 7 - wish he'd thrown a boot at Svennis subs: Crouch 4 - poor control, poor vision, impotent in the box Gerrard 7 - bought some bollox to the tourno Campbell 5 - seemed like a fish out of water 7 seems a quite wide-ranging mark in your book
BartonFox Posted 21 June 2006 Posted 21 June 2006 Is nobody else concerned that England couldn't beat the worst Sweden side in living memory? Robinson - looked poor Carragher - should be at centre half Ferdinand - did okay, but pulling his groin when he wasn't stretched during the first half raises questions about how he approached the game. Terry - good job he is there A. Cole - doesn't support Joe Cole enough and his passing is Tiatto-esque Beckham - what a joke he is. His fault for the first equaliser he didn't even get close to Allback in the 6 yard box, criminal. Lampard - started off well faded badly because England were poor. Hargreaves - tremendous. J. Cole - great strike and then great cross for SG, the rest of it was mediocre he need to sustain that level of performance for 90 minutes. Owen - shouldn't have been there anyway, living off past glories and I feel for him as he isa genuine guy and not an obnoxious nonce like some of his team mates. Rooney - shouldn't be there he isn't fit and died after 25 minutes against better but still poor opposition. His temper is there for all to see he has the word liability stamped across his forehead. Crouch - Gerrard - good goal Campbell - This game was no better than a Fulham vs. Blackburn Premiership affair and England never tested Sweden inside their penalty area during the first half. Dreadful in the second and lucky not to lose 4 or 5 goals.
shen Posted 21 June 2006 Posted 21 June 2006 Is nobody else concerned that England couldn't beat the worst Sweden side in living memory? Robinson - looked poor Carragher - should be at centre half Ferdinand - did okay, but pulling his groin when he wasn't stretched during the first half raises questions about how he approached the game. Terry - good job he is there A. Cole - doesn't support Joe Cole enough and his passing is Tiatto-esque Beckham - what a joke he is. His fault for the first equaliser he didn't even get close to Allback in the 6 yard box, criminal. Lampard - started off well faded badly because England were poor. Hargreaves - tremendous. J. Cole - great strike and then great cross for SG, the rest of it was mediocre he need to sustain that level of performance for 90 minutes. Owen - shouldn't have been there anyway, living off past glories and I feel for him as he isa genuine guy and not an obnoxious nonce like some of his team mates. Rooney - shouldn't be there he isn't fit and died after 25 minutes against better but still poor opposition. His temper is there for all to see he has the word liability stamped across his forehead. Crouch - Gerrard - good goal Campbell - This game was no better than a Fulham vs. Blackburn Premiership affair and England never tested Sweden inside their penalty area during the first half. Dreadful in the second and lucky not to lose 4 or 5 goals. Jesus! You must be the eternal pessimist!! First of all, a Swedish side with Larsson in it, will, per definition, NEVER be the worst in living memory. Secondly, Rooney shouldn't be there? You're loco, mate. The injury was a media hype, and he will be England's main threat for the rest of the tournament. I'd bet you'd still moan about him and the rest of the team if they won 3-0 against Brazil in the final... <_<
BartonFox Posted 21 June 2006 Posted 21 June 2006 Jesus! You must be the eternal pessimist!! First of all, a Swedish side with Larsson in it, will, per definition, NEVER be the worst in living memory. Secondly, Rooney shouldn't be there? You're loco, mate. The injury was a media hype, and he will be England's main threat for the rest of the tournament. I'd bet you'd still moan about him and the rest of the team if they won 3-0 against Brazil in the final... <_< Eh? Sweden are crap, so are England and Rooney clearly isn't fit, he puffed his way through 35 minutes against T&T and last night after 25 minutes he was buggered again his reaction at getting subbed wasn't anger at Sven it was at himself for not being up to it just now.
shen Posted 21 June 2006 Posted 21 June 2006 Eh? Sweden are crap, so are England and Rooney clearly isn't fit, he puffed his way through 35 minutes against T&T and last night after 25 minutes he was buggered again his reaction at getting subbed wasn't anger at Sven it was at himself for not being up to it just now. Sweden are by no means crap. A crap team doesn't fight back twice in the same match. Unless of course Brazil and Argentina are 'average'; in that case I agree that Sweden are 'crap'. Rooney showed quite a few touches of class and had he had the rub of the green he could've easily have gotten a goal or two. The more minutes he racks up, the better he will get, and if he keeps injury-free up until the Ecuador game, he should provide the quality needed to see them off.
Daggers Posted 21 June 2006 Posted 21 June 2006 7 seems a quite wide-ranging mark in your book Not really, I give OH a 7 for puffing around for 90 minutes and Cole gets a 7 for a goal and an assist...but vanishing for most of the second half. I've got NVQ's for assessment you know!
BartonFox Posted 21 June 2006 Posted 21 June 2006 Sweden are by no means crap. A crap team doesn't fight back twice in the same match. Unless of course Brazil and Argentina are 'average'; in that case I agree that Sweden are 'crap'. Rooney showed quite a few touches of class and had he had the rub of the green he could've easily have gotten a goal or two. The more minutes he racks up, the better he will get, and if he keeps injury-free up until the Ecuador game, he should provide the quality needed to see them off. Sweden are poor in comparison to any time in the last 20 years or so, Larsson or no Larsson. Brazil have been very disappointing thus far, but it is no suprise when Nike insist on the starting line-up including fat boy fat ( ). Argentina and Spain have looked far superior to any other nation to date. Rooney did what exactly, one possible chance but he was well marshalled by Teddy Lucic, Teddy Lucic for christ sake!!!!! That apart he disappeared and ran out of gas, don't believe the hype of Team England and Super Sven; the lad isn't fit, neither was poor Owen, and now he wants to play midfielders up front As for Ecuador, they will be rubbing their hands, get the ball out wide and swing it in and chances will occur. You'd think England would win but given their 3 performances to date and their record in 2005/2006 you do wonder.
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