If there was an election tomorrow

[Simon]

Not likely, but people want change, we've had labour for too long, and have failed for too long. Conservative's maybe worse, I wouldn't trust David Campbell with the sweat from my piss!!! <_<

Who's he?

[Dr The Singh]

Who's he?

Sorry David Cameron!!! I've been drinking the funny juice!!

[Head Honcho]

Nothing to do with press, I know people who work for the audit dept at the royal, and things have infact gone down in clinical standards etc, too many foriegn nurses, not qualified enough, clinical procedures\standards haven't been improved for the last 10 years, hygiene standards are poor, old in frail are at risk, blag, blah!!!

In terms of money, staff pay rise got barely inflation rate, yet directors and board get average of 11% from what I can remember!! I have many friends and family that work for the NHS, including my wife, mis management of funds is rife, too many middle management, too much 'protecting' one's own and one's funding goes on, patient care comes bottom of the list my friend!!!

That isn't exclusive to the NHS you know in all business it's always the ones at the bottom who suffer when the purse strings are tightened.

Morale may not have improved within the heakth service but I can assure you in general it's a better NHS.

Look at how waiting list numbers have plummeted!

Many people don't see the relevance of this but the sooner you see a specialist the sooner you can have your tumour removed and the better chance of survival.

[lcfcalan]

Nothing to do with press, I know people who work for the audit dept at the royal, and things have infact gone down in clinical standards etc, too many foriegn nurses, not qualified enough, clinical procedures\standards haven't been improved for the last 10 years, hygiene standards are poor, old in frail are at risk, blag, blah!!!

In terms of money, staff pay rise got barely inflation rate, yet directors and board get average of 11% from what I can remember!! I have many friends and family that work for the NHS, including my wife, mis management of funds is rife, too many middle management, too much 'protecting' one's own and one's funding goes on, patient care comes bottom of the list my friend!!!

I could almost have wrote this comment myself Mr The Singh, except I would be refering to the atrocious conditions afforded to my old mum in Wexham Park Hospital in Slough.

However, I am still of the opinion , that in general terms , we have a great and improving health service.

We all know or are told of bad issues, but the majority of us are gratefull for the treatment we receive, and the fact that we do get looked after as best as possible from the actual Nursing and Doctor fraternity.

[Daggers]

Possibly, but it's rated 6 from the bottom on a world-wide scale?

Do you have a source for that Cis?

I ask because I will cite you the South and Central American countries as having worse health care systems than the UK. Far worse. Factor in the African countries and then the ones from the old communist block and it becomes apparent that this stat really is nonsensical.

People have started thinking about extremes and that's where the BNP come into things!! sad.gif

Isn't it just the depressing truth A damning indictment of modern day politics is the way the centre ground parties have allowed such extremist idiots to gain footholds...but as we are the people that make up political parties - it becomes beholden on us to ensure that these bigots and fascists never prevail.

[Dr The Singh]

That isn't exclusive to the NHS you know in all business it's always the ones at the bottom who suffer when the purse strings are tightened.

Morale may not have improved within the heakth service but I can assure you in general it's a better NHS.

Look at how waiting list numbers have plummeted!

Many people don't see the relevance of this but the sooner you see a specialist the sooner you can have your tumour removed and the better chance of survival.

Not quite true, referals have increased hence makes it seem as though waiting list have gone down but in fact actual treatment in many cases remains the same.

The government are trying to resolve the NHS crisis, but by throwing money at it hasn't made an equivalent improvement, hence the government have seen sense and have started building community trusts\health centre's to take the burden away from hospital etc.

Allen, the NHS will get alot worse before it will get better, this is comming from analyst from within the NHS. To route out the problems it has with mis-management, clinical standards and the lack of qualfiied staff, will take atleat 10-15 years. Yes, the government are trying to do the right thing, but radical change can only be done slowly, as there are people, unions within the NHS that cannot see the big picture, let's hope Cameron when he does come into power follows suit!!

[Dr The Singh]

That isn't exclusive to the NHS you know in all business it's always the ones at the bottom who suffer when the purse strings are tightened.

Morale may not have improved within the heakth service but I can assure you in general it's a better NHS.

Look at how waiting list numbers have plummeted!

Many people don't see the relevance of this but the sooner you see a specialist the sooner you can have your tumour removed and the better chance of survival.

We the public are owners and financiars of the NHS, and for the service and returns, it is a disgrace, if the NHS were a business, we the 'board' would never allowed that to happen!!!

[stez]

Just because casualty is a 30 minute drive doesn't mean you are not going to be tended to any slower!

Paramedics these days are fully qualified in dishing out any treatment you will need at casualty(obviously there will be some exceptions) but I'm sure a risk assessment will have been done before the decision was made.

It's not very often that somebody dies in an ambulance and those that do will most probably have died anyway.

You can read all the bad press you like about the health service but the facts are that the NHS is in a better state now then it's ever been.

the audit was: lincolnshire is a massive, but sparsly populated, county, there are lots of farmers(most dangerous; job as stated earlier) lincolnshires' NHS is deeply in debt lets close some bits. the govenment and LHA are in a battle of wills at the moment and it's the patients who'll pay the price

[Master Fox]

The NHS is absolutely appalling. The Labour government made false promises to improve its services but has failed to do, if anything its got worse due to being over stretched because of the huge influx of immigrants to the country since Labour came to power. Nevertheless my main concern is the ridiculous taxations on everything in this country for which I see absolutely nothing that benefits me directly. We all pay far too much tax and the richer people in this country I believe don’t get taxed enough. My other main concern is of course the immigration problem, I have no problem with foreign people coming here and working but it’s the sheer numbers, the country simply cannot cope with amount of people living on this small Island. House prices and borrowing is also a big problem in my view.

The problem with today’s politics is there isn’t a strong enough opposition capable enough to remove Labour from government and to run this county.

[The People's Hero]

A strong opposition would be useful in a 'regulatory' capacity and also to keep those in power 'on their toes' to an extent.

Half the problem is that the politicians at the top (and arguably at the bottom) are more interested in getting drunk, sh agging each other etc than politics itself. Quite frankly, can you blame them?

Make politics more fun (with pirates, breasts and party rings) and perhaps things will improve.

Ole.

Over and Out.

Jimbert.

[Lester LXXIV]

A strong opposition would be useful in a 'regulatory' capacity and also to keep those in power 'on their toes' to an extent.

Half the problem is that the politicians at the top (and arguably at the bottom) are more interested in getting drunk, sh agging each other etc than politics itself. Quite frankly, can you blame them?

Make politics more fun (with pirates, breasts and party rings) and perhaps things will improve.

Ole.

Over and Out.

Jimbert.

Even a topic on politics still manages to return to the inevitable! Lovin' it!

[Daggers]

I'm surprised that the three ****nuts who selected BNP could read well enough to understand the question. Maybe they thought it was a quiz about petrol?

[Daggers]

What about "the environment" etc?

At least "other"!

If you wanted to vote 'environment', why didn't you also select 'Green party'? Serious question, because none of the other parties really take it seriously ~ they just pay it lip service because its deemed to be a potential vote loser if they don't.

[Dr The Singh]

If you wanted to vote 'environment', why didn't you also select 'Green party'? Serious question, because none of the other parties really take it seriously ~ they just pay it lip service because its deemed to be a potential vote loser if they don't.

No party would want to rock the boat and make people undertake radical change in lifestyles to save the environment!! Also it doesn't help if the rest of the world aren't interested in the environment either, no names mentioned!!

[Daggers]

Also it doesn't help if the rest of the world aren't interested in the environment either, no names mentioned!!

It's Guam isn't it? Go on, tell us, it is Guam...yea?

Bloody Guam!

[Head Honcho]

The NHS is absolutely appalling. The Labour government made false promises to improve its services but has failed to do, if anything its got worse due to being over stretched because of the huge influx of immigrants to the country since Labour came to power. Nevertheless my main concern is the ridiculous taxations on everything in this country for which I see absolutely nothing that benefits me directly. We all pay far too much tax and the richer people in this country I believe don’t get taxed enough. My other main concern is of course the immigration problem, I have no problem with foreign people coming here and working but it’s the sheer numbers, the country simply cannot cope with amount of people living on this small Island. House prices and borrowing is also a big problem in my view.

The problem with today’s politics is there isn’t a strong enough opposition capable enough to remove Labour from government and to run this county.

As the saying goes there are two things certain in life death and taxes!

How do you propose our services are paid for?

I suppose you'd go down the tory route of lowering taxes to please Mr and Mrs Smith from Basildon and then a couple of years later borrow the deficit that has developed because of lower taxes from the world bank?

.............and then stick 5%(if were lucky) onto interest rates to repay the bank

Anyone with a mortgage and/or credit card should think very carefully about wanting to go down that road!

Your comment on immigrants clogging up the health service are absolutely ludicrous and unsubstantiated, but if you have a source from anywhere other then the BNP I'd gladly give it my attention!

[Master Fox]

As the saying goes there are two things certain in life death and taxes!

How do you propose our services are paid for?

I suppose you'd go down the tory route of lowering taxes to please Mr and Mrs Smith from Basildon and then a couple of years later borrow the deficit that has developed because of lower taxes from the world bank?

.............and then stick 5%(if were lucky) onto interest rates to repay the bank

Anyone with a mortgage and/or credit card should think very carefully about wanting to go down that road!

Your comment on immigrants clogging up the health service are absolutely ludicrous and unsubstantiated, but if you have a source from anywhere other then the BNP I'd gladly give it my attention!

I believe my income tax is too high plus N.I and on top of that we pay council tax which I believe is more than enough to pay for services. High taxes seem to be paying for crap that has absolutely nothing to with me. We also pay too much on things like fuel, Cigs, Beer, Wine, electrical etc.

Why would you borrow the deficit? If the problems were addressed and the money was spent more wisely then I see no reason why there couldn't be a reduction without affecting interest rates.

My auntie works on the maternity ward at Luton general hospital, she says foreigners come into the country specifically to have their kid while at the same time steal things like medicine, towels, pillows, all sorts. Have you been to an A & E department in past couple years? You'll then realise how bad it is but this is not just a foreign problem but whole of society.

[Dr The Singh]

As the saying goes there are two things certain in life death and taxes!

How do you propose our services are paid for?

I suppose you'd go down the tory route of lowering taxes to please Mr and Mrs Smith from Basildon and then a couple of years later borrow the deficit that has developed because of lower taxes from the world bank?

.............and then stick 5%(if were lucky) onto interest rates to repay the bank

Anyone with a mortgage and/or credit card should think very carefully about wanting to go down that road!

Your comment on immigrants clogging up the health service are absolutely ludicrous and unsubstantiated, but if you have a source from anywhere other then the BNP I'd gladly give it my attention!

The fact that the government do not know how many illegal immigrants are in this country, does say something, there are reports stating that there are around 800,000,and other stating probably double then that!! We are the most densely populated country in Europe, and have the largest illegal immigration and immigration in Europe, yet growth of our services and resources have not grown proportionally. To say that has had no effect on resources would be ignorant!!!

The issue of 'health tourist' is common, I know many people comming from the punjab to the UK for treatment, for eg a hernia op cost £6k on private, multiply that by 1000 is 6 million that the government are losing out on!!!

[Head Honcho]

I believe my income tax is too high plus N.I and on top of that we pay council tax which I believe is more than enough to pay for services. High taxes seem to be paying for crap that has absolutely nothing to with me. We also pay too much on things like fuel, Cigs, Beer, Wine, electrical etc.

Why would you borrow the deficit? If the problems were addressed and the money was spent more wisely then I see no reason why there couldn't be a reduction without affecting interest rates.

My auntie works on the maternity ward at Luton general hospital, she says foreigners come into the country specifically to have their kid while at the same time steal things like medicine, towels, pillows, all sorts. Have you been to an A & E department in past couple years? You'll then realise how bad it is but this is not just a foreign problem but whole of society.

The tax you pay on beer and fags goes towards the health care required to treat all those currently incapacitated due to excessive smoking and drinking-that seems fair to me

There are too many people like yourself MF that want and moan that we haven't got the best health service in the world but don't want to pay any taxes to pay for it.

[Master Fox]

The tax you pay on beer and fags goes towards the health care required to treat all those currently incapacitated due to excessive smoking and drinking-that seems fair to me

There are too many people like yourself MF that want and moan that we haven't got the best health service in the world but don't want to pay any taxes to pay for it.

I would rather pay less taxes and have health insurance a bit like what they have in America.

[Head Honcho]

I would rather pay less taxes and have health insurance a bit like what they have in America.

That's ok for those who can afford it!

[Daggers]

I would rather pay less taxes and have health insurance a bit like what they have in America.

...and everyone in the States that can't afford it is left without dental and medical care. Or rather, they may be treated but then have to face crippling bills.

The US system, modeled by Central and South American counties only works for the rich.

Part and parcel of living in a society is accepting social responsibilities.

[Janx]

Just remember that they are supposed to be serving us!

Which one of us voted for prolongued entanglement with middle east/afghanistan etc

When did we say we wanted to align ourselves with US policy?

There are MANY hot potatos in that list in the poll as well, and I wouldnt want to get into a row with anyone, but do people GENUINELY feel that His Tonyness an his Merry men are really serving the people that voted him in... after all its mainly due to apathy that they are in, which is very sad, when more people voted for others than for Labour

[Head Honcho]

Just remember that they are supposed to be serving us!

Which one of us voted for prolongued entanglement with middle east/afghanistan etc

When did we say we wanted to align ourselves with US policy?

There are MANY hot potatos in that list in the poll as well, and I wouldnt want to get into a row with anyone, but do people GENUINELY feel that His Tonyness an his Merry men are really serving the people that voted him in... after all its mainly due to apathy that they are in, which is very sad, when more people voted for others than for Labour

So tell us all jankers!

How bad have things really got for you in 10 years?

[Master Fox]

So tell us all jankers!

How bad have things really got for you in 10 years?

Everything is worse now than 10 years ago, Everything!!!