Fez of Mahrez Posted 8 February 2007 Posted 8 February 2007 Can you stick it all in here from now on mate? You're banging your head against a brick wall. Cheers.
Mad Dog Posted 8 February 2007 Posted 8 February 2007 Don't forget Stephen Dawson, Tommy Wright and Tomi Petrescu, who we foolishly allowed to leave and are now ripping up the Premiership. Right?
Brainy Posted 8 February 2007 Posted 8 February 2007 How's Logan doing with Watford?? Didn't know he was rated higher than Ben Foster by the gaffer
Flynny Posted 8 February 2007 Posted 8 February 2007 I have no idea at all who these people are rather cruelly imitating. None.
Finn Claw Posted 8 February 2007 Posted 8 February 2007 START OF RANT why bother with youth when you can draft in some drifter on loan to sort out all your problems. Dodds will be gone at the end of season and will end up scoring a fair few goals in the lower leagues. If i was King I would be gutted, Hughes, Johnson are dross and Weso is always injured. King might be shit anyway, who the hell knows. We have a team full of retards. END OF RANT feel better now!
Fez of Mahrez Posted 8 February 2007 Author Posted 8 February 2007 START OF RANT why bother with youth when you can draft in some drifter on loan to sort out all your problems. Dodds will be gone at the end of season and will end up scoring a fair few goals in the lower leagues. If i was King I would be gutted, Hughes, Johnson are dross and Weso is always injured. King might be shit anyway, who the hell knows. We have a team full of retards. END OF RANT feel better now! Is that it? Can't we have 8,000 posts basically all saying that? Thanks.
Finn Claw Posted 8 February 2007 Posted 8 February 2007 lets get Paverl Sernick (that ex newcastle one) in on loan put him in Goal and then we can let Logan go, I've never trusted grown men with hair that blonde...
Thracian Posted 8 February 2007 Posted 8 February 2007 Why does no-one think of Billy McKay? Poor lad. He's got the same problem as Dodds, Gradel and Odhiambo. He scores far too many goals.
Benji Posted 9 February 2007 Posted 9 February 2007 He's got the same problem as Dodds, Gradel and Odhiambo. He scores far too many goals. hahaha, nice
Geo V Posted 9 February 2007 Posted 9 February 2007 Unfortunately, this link perfectly describes King and Dodds Leicester careers under the current management.... http://www.interment.net/data/us/in/harrison/king/dodd1.htm
BartonFox Posted 9 February 2007 Posted 9 February 2007 He's got the same problem as Dodds, Gradel and Odhiambo. He scores far too many goals. That'll be the same lad that looked so out of his depth against Villa it was slightly cringy TBH. Liam Ridgewell for pitys sake. To be fair to Kelly I don't think the lads are up to it at present.
MBK Posted 9 February 2007 Posted 9 February 2007 That'll be the same lad that looked so out of his depth against Villa it was slightly cringy TBH. Liam Ridgewell for pitys sake. To be fair to Kelly I don't think the lads are up to it at present. What about Weso and Stearman? When will they get a proper run of games
Thracian Posted 9 February 2007 Posted 9 February 2007 That'll be the same lad that looked so out of his depth against Villa it was slightly cringy TBH. Liam Ridgewell for pitys sake. To be fair to Kelly I don't think the lads are up to it at present. I've not campaigned for Odhiambo's inclusion just yet but to suggest that short appearance against Villa was anything to judge him by is totally unfair. a) He had an iffy debut for the reserves. b) Everyone was too knackered to support him much c) He didn't get any sort of passes to show him at his best. King and Dodds are much more suited to what we need right now - and much more experienced too. But you do emphasise what kids are up against at Leicester - with a considerable group of fans believing talentless but experienced journeymen are somehow "safer" bets. Well, I'm sorry. But I've seen where these players have left us in reality. And it doesn't impress me one bit.
Ric Flair Posted 9 February 2007 Posted 9 February 2007 I've not campaigned for Odhiambo's inclusion just yet but to suggest that short appearance against Villa was anything to judge him by is totally unfair. a) He had an iffy debut for the reserves. b) Everyone was too knackered to support him much c) He didn't get any sort of passes to show him at his best. King and Dodds are much more suited to what we need right now - and much more experienced too. But you do emphasise what kids are up against at Leicester - with a considerable group of fans believing talentless but experienced journeymen are somehow "safer" bets. Well, I'm sorry. But I've seen where these players have left us in reality. And it doesn't impress me one bit. Sadly Thracian, although I agree with you on some of your idea's and inclusions of youngsters, how many managers in the land play several youngsters in their team at one time?. Not many do, irrespective of whether they've got some crap journeymen players clogging up their side and staring at relegation. For the life of me I cannot understand why at times, but then the fact they have become managers of professional football clubs must mean they know a thing or two about football? Perhaps we are the ones that are getting it wrong and we are blind to the talents and the work that these old journeymen like Johnson, Tiatto, etc do. It's not as if Kelly's been reluctant to try youngsters if he thinks they are good enough. Porter and Logan have been bought through by Kelly and Stearman and Wesolowski are given chances, it's just both of them have not been playing to their potential due to various reasons. One being Kelly perhaps isn't good enough. Kelly's got to go. But I would be very surprised to see another manager come in and introduce another 3-4 youngsters in to the first team, it doesn't happen unless they are top quality. If Dodds, Gradel and King are top quality then they'll prove so in due course either here or elsewhere and you'll then be proved right in what you and often I say.
Steven Posted 9 February 2007 Posted 9 February 2007 That'll be the same lad that looked so out of his depth against Villa it was slightly cringy TBH. Liam Ridgewell for pitys sake. To be fair to Kelly I don't think the lads are up to it at present. I am not sure he is in a position to judge.
BartonFox Posted 9 February 2007 Posted 9 February 2007 I've not campaigned for Odhiambo's inclusion just yet but to suggest that short appearance against Villa was anything to judge him by is totally unfair. a) He had an iffy debut for the reserves. b) Everyone was too knackered to support him much c) He didn't get any sort of passes to show him at his best. King and Dodds are much more suited to what we need right now - and much more experienced too. But you do emphasise what kids are up against at Leicester - with a considerable group of fans believing talentless but experienced journeymen are somehow "safer" bets. Well, I'm sorry. But I've seen where these players have left us in reality. And it doesn't impress me one bit. Stearman, Porter and Wesolowski are in the first team squad because they are good enough, plain and simple, although I have yet to see anything from Porter to suggest he is of CCC standard. I am no fan of Kelly or the rest of his cretins but if these lads were remotley up to it, bearing in mind they train everyday, then they'd be included. Dodds has been around for years and never even had a sniff, when O'Grady and Hammond are ahead of you when you are 'the best natural finisher at the Club' then you might not be the answer for CCC football. I admire your consistent promotion and defence of our youth but they are not the answer to our ills at present and most of them will never be regular forst teamers at LCFC unless we somehow surive after the drop to League One.
Thracian Posted 9 February 2007 Posted 9 February 2007 Stearman, Porter and Wesolowski are in the first team squad because they are good enough, plain and simple, although I have yet to see anything from Porter to suggest he is of CCC standard. I am no fan of Kelly or the rest of his cretins but if these lads were remotley up to it, bearing in mind they train everyday, then they'd be included. Dodds has been around for years and never even had a sniff, when O'Grady and Hammond are ahead of you when you are 'the best natural finisher at the Club' then you might not be the answer for CCC football. I admire your consistent promotion and defence of our youth but they are not the answer to our ills at present and most of them will never be regular forst teamers at LCFC unless we somehow surive after the drop to League One. It is all about perception I suppose. I think Porter has been a far better player for Leicester this season than Stearman and Wesolowski. Furthermore, on present form, I would far rather have King in the side than Weso because he has so much more to his game and would like Weso to build some confidence and consistency again before he plays first team. Hammond and O'Grady are Kelly-type players really, strong and industrious, but being a striker is more than that and I would have great faith in Dodds ability to do the only thing that's important for a striker, score goals. He wouldn't have much to beat anyway. My case for youth is not my recommendation given other choices, it is my preferred choice from what we have. Competitive but unimaginative and unsupportive football is getting us nowhere. Seems to me our single most important requirement is to score more goals. I can't see how someone like Jarrett will assist that. But Kelly will go his own way, we both know that, and while I have long shared every one of your reservations about him. I just can't see a convincing alternative on the horizon.
Ric Flair Posted 9 February 2007 Posted 9 February 2007 Stearman, Porter and Wesolowski are in the first team squad because they are good enough, plain and simple, although I have yet to see anything from Porter to suggest he is of CCC standard. I am no fan of Kelly or the rest of his cretins but if these lads were remotley up to it, bearing in mind they train everyday, then they'd be included. Dodds has been around for years and never even had a sniff, when O'Grady and Hammond are ahead of you when you are 'the best natural finisher at the Club' then you might not be the answer for CCC football. I admire your consistent promotion and defence of our youth but they are not the answer to our ills at present and most of them will never be regular forst teamers at LCFC unless we somehow surive after the drop to League One. Your usually bang on with your assessment of players, but for the life of me I can't see how you cannot be at least slightly impressed with some of Levi Porter's performances this season. He's been far and away the best midfielder this season for us (not that hard to achieve granted). The back end of November and in to December he was our best player and if he continues to improve then he's more than good enough for this level. He's the only youngster at this club that's not gone backwards this season. Wesolowski, Stearman and Fryatt have all disappointed me. Wesolowski has still shown flashes of brilliance but he's never had a sustained run in the team to get any form going, mainly because he's been injured. Logan looked good when he first came in, but if he can't dislodge Paul Henderson then either we have an idiot for a manager (we know that to be the case) or he's not quite good enough yet. I believe he is good enough, but has he been a flash in the pan? Porter has made Kelly put Tiatto in the middle, he's also made Kelly send back his bum chum Andy Welsh to Sunderland. That's an achievement in itself given Kelly's natural ability to field his favourites. I'm not one to say Porter's the best thing since Ryan Giggs, but he does for me on the left wing at Leicester. I'd like to think with the correct coaching and some determination and he could go on to be a good little player for us for years to come. Can I ask, why you don't rate him? He's the only midfielder we have who's prepared to get in to the penalty area and have a dig. 3 goals and a good 5-6 assists so far in his first season. Not too shabby for a player possibly not good enough for the CCC from midfield?.
The People's Hero Posted 9 February 2007 Posted 9 February 2007 Levi Porter has been very good at times. At other times though, he's as bad as the rest of them (and on at least one occasion, the worst player on the pitch) and yet in the match ratings, he'll score 2 or 3 points more than all other midfielders.
Ric Flair Posted 9 February 2007 Posted 9 February 2007 Levi Porter has been very good at times. At other times though, he's as bad as the rest of them (and on at least one occasion, the worst player on the pitch) and yet in the match ratings, he'll score 2 or 3 points more than all other midfielders. Only from Thracian. I do agree he's had some shockers, like the rest of them. There's not one player in our team that hasn't had a few crap games, even Kisnorbo and Hume look like mere amatuers at times. Sadly that's the sort of thing we've come to expect these days from our players. If the good games outweight the bad games then it's at least better than the majority of our players.
The People's Hero Posted 9 February 2007 Posted 9 February 2007 Only from Thracian. I do agree he's had some shockers, like the rest of them. There's not one player in our team that hasn't had a few crap games, even Kisnorbo and Hume look like mere amatuers at times. Sadly that's the sort of thing we've come to expect these days from our players. If the good games outweight the bad games then it's at least better than the majority of our players. I completely agree!
Thracian Posted 10 February 2007 Posted 10 February 2007 I completely agree! He'd play more consistently if he wasn't forever being forced further and further back to hold the hands of struggling defenders and tiring midfield players. Help is one thing but doing half their job is another. You don't see our defenders and midfielders doing half Levi's job. Not that they could.
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