Brainy Posted 18 March 2007 Posted 18 March 2007 Pakistan coach Bob Woolmer has died after being discovered in his Jamaica hotel room on Sunday morning. The 58-year-old former South Africa coach, who played for England between 1975-81, was found unconscious at the Pegasus Hotel at 1045 local time. He was taken to the emergency ward of the nearby University hospital but did not regain consciousness. Pakistan were eliminated from the World Cup on Saturday after losing by three wickets to minnows Ireland. Woolmer told BBC Radio Five Live after the Ireland match that he was considering his future in the game. There are a number of extenuating circumstances in the last six months that have made coaching Pakistan slightly different to normal sides Bob Woolmer "My contract runs out on 30 June anyway but I want to sleep on it before I make a decision about my future," he said on Saturday evening. "I have said I am reluctant to continue in international cricket purely because of all the travelling but I will stay in cricket at a different level. "But I think the decision has been made for me really. I will talk to the PCB and if they want me to stay until 30 June I will stay, if they want me to go I will go. "I am not going to break my contract but if the PCB want to get rid of me that is their business." Pakistan's preparations for the World Cup have been far from ideal, which Woolmer also alluded to. Following the infamous forfeited Test against England at The Oval last summer, two of their leading fast bowlers Shoaib Akhtar and Mohammad Asif, were suspended after failing doping tests. 606: DEBATE A great loss to cricket AC The pair later saw those bans rescinded but missed the World Cup because of injury, something Woolmer admitted had hindered the team. "There are a number of extenuating circumstances in the last six months that have made coaching Pakistan slightly different to normal sides," he said. "Those are the things I would have to consider and those things would have to change if I was to continue." Link
dandannieldanok Posted 18 March 2007 Posted 18 March 2007 Wonder if Pakistan will play there last game or not, I doubt they will.
Matt Posted 18 March 2007 Posted 18 March 2007 Was watching Sky Sports News when they broke the news about him being took to hospital unconcious, they said they had nothing to work on but it didn't look good and could even possibly dead, at that early stage to report that working on not much information, you know it likly to be bad news in the end. R.I.P.
Brainy Posted 18 March 2007 Author Posted 18 March 2007 Wonder if Pakistan will play there last game or not, I doubt they will. Have Zimbabwe played West Indies yet? If so, did West Indies win? If not, if Zimbabwe beat Pakistan then they could be through.. I don't quite know the points system but Zimbabwe have definately got a point.
dandannieldanok Posted 18 March 2007 Posted 18 March 2007 Have Zimbabwe played West Indies yet? If so, did West Indies win? If not, if Zimbabwe beat Pakistan then they could be through.. I don't quite know the points system but Zimbabwe have definately got a point. Not sure to be honest, I presume Pakistan will forfeit the game and the points will go to Zimbabwe.
Sods Posted 18 March 2007 Posted 18 March 2007 this is absoultely shocking news i really hope he wasn't murdered or something cruel like that
DB11 Posted 18 March 2007 Posted 18 March 2007 Does it say what the cause of death was? That's so shocking
Nationwider Posted 18 March 2007 Posted 18 March 2007 He has a pre-existing medical condition which may have contributed to his demise. He certainly had a lot on his plate over the last few months, what with the forfeited Test & Daryl Hair, then Asif and Shoaib getting embroiled in a drugs scandal, then Ireland. A great coach, and a nice bloke from what I saw of him in interviews. I was rather hoping he might get the England gig after Fletcher finally stood down. A sad day for sport.
Flynny Posted 18 March 2007 Posted 18 March 2007 He has a pre-existing medical condition which may have contributed to his demise. He certainly had a lot on his plate over the last few months, what with the forfeited Test & Daryl Hair, then Asif and Shoaib getting embroiled in a drugs scandal, then Ireland. A great coach, and a nice bloke from what I saw of him in interviews. I was rather hoping he might get the England gig after Fletcher finally stood down. A sad day for sport. Well put. I heard he was found face-up, eyes glazed over, with vomit around his mouth, totally comatose. Crap way to go. Poor bloke.
Geo V Posted 18 March 2007 Posted 18 March 2007 Shocking stuff. I hope that it wasnt caused after Pakistan went crashing out in the World Cup. Lets hope it was natural causes. Its amazing to think that he wanted to be Englands next coach a few months ago and looked like a healthy enough dude, taking coaching sessions and all and then he dies the day after his side are knocked out of the world cup. Weird shite. RIP
lcfc_jme Posted 19 March 2007 Posted 19 March 2007 I was absolutely shocked, and amazed to some degree, when I heard this. I thought I was being wound up at first as he looked physically fine (other than being understandably deflated because of the result) during the Ireland game. Sad loss for the cricket world, and more importantly the family and friends he leaves behind. R.I.P.
Bryn Posted 22 March 2007 Posted 22 March 2007 Been on the news just now, police believe he WAS murdered. Quite shocking.
Guest Gist Posted 22 March 2007 Posted 22 March 2007 Bob Woolmer's widow has dismissed suggestions that her husband could have committed suicide, but she has refused to rule out the possibility of murder. The Pakistan coach's death on Sunday has fuelled intense speculation, including theories that he may have been murdered at the World Cup in Jamaica, with police treating the death as "suspicious". Woolmer, 58, died in hospital after being found unconscious in his hotel room in Kingston, the day after Pakistan suffered elimination from the world's premier one-day tournament at the hands of debutants Ireland. And Gill Woolmer has told Sky Sports News that foul play could have been involved. She said: "There is always the possibility. Some of the cricket fraternity's fans are extremely volatile and passionate about the game and about what happens about the game. There is the possibility. "It fills me with horror, I just can't believe that people could behave like that or that anyone would want to harm someone that has done such a great service to international cricket." While a second pathologist has been called in to establish the cause of death in Jamaica, Gill has given an insight into her husband's final hours - trying to come to terms with the shock of a World Cup exit. "He was very depressed and he sent me an email to that effect," she continued. "But he always got depressed and down if the boys didn't do as he had expected and hoped they could. "He knew they could perform and he just got very down about it, but that was normal. He was a very competitive person, but there's no way that suicide was involved." Suggestions that Woolmer was silenced because of revelations into gambling, about to be published in his book have also been given short shrift. South African captain Hansie Cronje had confessed match-fixing in 2002, with Woolmer an innocent party as his coach, and Gill said she had no reason to believe her husband was about to blow the lid on match-fixing in the game. "He did talk about it obviously a lot during the Hansie Cronje period when the South Africans were involved," she added. "But that's all been buried and dealt with. Everyone's had enough of it. I know I have. "He never mentioned anything about match-fixing recently and I was unaware. If there was anything going on nobody here knew about it." The police investigation is still to continue, with an official report into developments expected Thursday.
Geo V Posted 22 March 2007 Posted 22 March 2007 I thought the suspicion might have been suicide? Who would want to kill a cricket coach FFS?? Mad sods whoever it was.
Brainy Posted 22 March 2007 Author Posted 22 March 2007 Jamaican police are questioning members of Pakistan's cricket squad over the death of coach Bob Woolmer. The interviews were taking "up to an hour for each player", team manager Talat Ali told Reuters news agency. Woolmer, 58, was found in his hotel room on Sunday, the day after his team lost to Ireland in the World Cup. Police are still unable to confirm how he died and are treating the case as "suspicious". His wife denies he killed himself and refuses to rule out murder. More tests Pakistan team spokesman Pervez Mir said the players were not interviewed under caution. We never got any threats as far as I know Woolmer's widow Gill Fans reel from double blow He said police were trying to work out Woolmer's last movements. Mark Shields, the deputy chief commissioner of Jamaican police, said: "We're going through a process of speaking to people, including members of the team." Results of more tests on Woolmer's body are still awaited. A police spokesman confirmed they had now decided to seek the opinion of a second pathologist. Police have also rejected suggestions they are treating the case as murder after a report that a broken bone had been found in Woolmer's neck. Police described the source quoted by the Jamaica Gleaner as a rogue member of the force. Meanwhile, the UK's Metropolitan Police is "ready to assist" its Jamaican counterpart with the investigation, Deputy Commissioner Paul Stephenson has told the BBC. But he said there had been no explicit request for help. 'Absolute rubbish' Speaking at her home in South Africa, Gill Woolmer said she expected her husband's body would be flown home after the second pathologist concluded his investigation. The first post mortem examination on Woolmer proved inconclusive She said she had been given "some indication" of why police thought her husband's death was suspicious, but did not reveal what it was. "The second pathologist's test should be available and as soon as we get that the investigation will be winding down and they will be able to send his body back to South Africa," Gill Woolmer said. Speaking to Sky News, she added: "There is always the possibility that it could have been [murder]." Bob Woolmer was known to suffer from diabetes, but his widow dismissed the suggestion that he died from a drugs overdose. "Bob had Type 2 diabetes, which you do not have to take drugs for. Reports of him drinking and overdosing on drugs are absolute rubbish," she said. Woolmer, a former England Test player, was found unconscious last Sunday and died later that day. Pakistan team trainer Murray Stephenson is due to accompany his body to South Africa when the investigation is concluded. Link
Joe. Posted 22 March 2007 Posted 22 March 2007 Cause of Death According to SSN: Pakistan coach Bob Woolmer suffered a broken bone in his throat after falling against the toilet bowl whilst vomiting in his hotel room, according to Sky Sports News. The 58-year-old was discovered unconscious in his hotel room the day after Pakistan had suffered a shock World Cup exit at the hands of debutants Ireland. Initial post mortem tests proved inconclusive and now Jamaican police are awaiting the results of a second post mortem, but maintain that Woolmer's death is still being treated as suspicious. Sky Sports News reports that Woolmer suffered from a broken bone in his throat, an injury he sustained during a fall against the toilet bowl whilst vomiting. Jamaican police had questioned and took finger prints from the entire Pakistan World Cup squad, as their investigations continue, but they are now all free to leave the Caribbean. "There has been no change in status. It is still considered suspicious," said Mark Shields, the deputy chief commissioner of the Jamaican police force. "We hope to get the pathologist's report later today and then we can make a formal statement later today. "We do not have any suspects. The Pakistan team are free to leave." Pakistan team manager Talat Ali was furious that the squad were being seen as possible suspects due to the process. "The impression is being given that the Pakistan team are suspects. This is not true," said Ali. "We are being interviewed first because we are leaving for Montego Bay later this afternoon, but other people will also be interviewed by police."
lildave3 Posted 22 March 2007 Posted 22 March 2007 Pakistan coach Bob Woolmer suffered a broken bone in his throat after falling against the toilet bowl whilst vomiting in his hotel room, according to Sky Sports News. Codswallop.
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