Leicestershire County Cricket Club

[AjcW]

I think Rehan needs to decide whether he wants to bat or bowl to be honest, don't think he's got it in him to be an all rounder. 

Reminds me of when Broad started really focussing on his batting and started bowling terribly. As soon as he dropped that he went on to be one of Englands best ever. 

 

England are stacked with Leg spinners and have just picked someone who hasn't been selected in 8 years ahead of him, wonder if batting might be the best option!

 

On the other hand he probably is 38 year old Rashids long term replacement in T20I as they still keep ignoring Calvin Harrison for some reason!

 

Either way he needs to buckle down.

[RowlattsFox]

Just now, AjcW said:

I think Rehan needs to decide whether he wants to bat or bowl to be honest, don't think he's got it in him to be an all rounder. 

Reminds me of when Broad started really focussing on his batting and started bowling terribly. As soon as he dropped that he went on to be one of Englands best ever. 

 

England are stacked with Leg spinners and have just picked someone who hasn't been selected in 8 years ahead of him, wonder if batting might be the best option!

 

On the other hand he probably is 38 year old Rashids long term replacement in T20I as they still keep ignoring Calvin Harrison for some reason!

 

Either way he needs to buckle down.

General consensus from people inside the game is that he's a better batter than bowler. 

Think he just needs to play rather than carrying drinks - not sure what is plan over the winter if he's not involved with England. Does he have a SA20 or Big Bash gig? 

 

Sure he learnt a lot at the IPL last year but needs to give it a miss next season. 

[AjcW]

13 minutes ago, RowlattsFox said:

General consensus from people inside the game is that he's a better batter than bowler. 

Think he just needs to play rather than carrying drinks - not sure what is plan over the winter if he's not involved with England. Does he have a SA20 or Big Bash gig? 

 

Sure he learnt a lot at the IPL last year but needs to give it a miss next season. 

Not sure if squads have been announced yet but the Lions are touring West Indies, South Africa and Sri Lanka. 

SA tour in tandem with senior side I imagine for squad cover. 

 

Trott in charge this winter, be a decent batting mentor!

[everton carr]

25 minutes ago, AjcW said:

I think Rehan needs to decide whether he wants to bat or bowl to be honest, don't think he's got it in him to be an all rounder. 

Reminds me of when Broad started really focussing on his batting and started bowling terribly. As soon as he dropped that he went on to be one of Englands best ever. 

 

England are stacked with Leg spinners and have just picked someone who hasn't been selected in 8 years ahead of him, wonder if batting might be the best option!

 

On the other hand he probably is 38 year old Rashids long term replacement in T20I as they still keep ignoring Calvin Harrison for some reason!

 

Either way he needs to buckle down.

Not sure Broad stopped focussing on his batting.It was more he lost confidence after he was hit on the head by the Indian fast bowler  who went on to play for us briefly name escapes me atm.Also don't remember him ever bowling terribly maybe like all bowlers the odd game but not for a sustained period.

[Cakey]

2 hours ago, everton carr said:

Not sure Broad stopped focussing on his batting.It was more he lost confidence after he was hit on the head by the Indian fast bowler  who went on to play for us briefly name escapes me atm.Also don't remember him ever bowling terribly maybe like all bowlers the odd game but not for a sustained period.

Varun Aaron, although didnt do much for us but was rapid. 

[everton carr]

1 hour ago, Cakey said:

Varun Aaron, although didnt do much for us but was rapid. 

Yep that's him was terrible in the matches he played

[CrawlingFox]

6 hours ago, RowlattsFox said:

General consensus from people inside the game is that he's a better batter than bowler. 

Think he just needs to play rather than carrying drinks - not sure what is plan over the winter if he's not involved with England. Does he have a SA20 or Big Bash gig? 

 

Sure he learnt a lot at the IPL last year but needs to give it a miss next season. 

Whilst this is true I always think it's hard to really tell as spinners in England don't get the luxury of a raging turner very often and I'd wager Rehan just doesn't get the overs he'd really need to develop as a leg spinner (one of the hardest and most unforgiving crafts in the game). That's through a combination of missing games due to England/IPL as you say and the number of games we play on seaming decks where Holland may make hay but a spinner isn't going to get much of a look in.

Edited yesterday at 14:45 by CrawlingFox

[RowlattsFox]

2 minutes ago, CrawlingFox said:

Whilst this is true I always think it's hard to really tell as spinners in England don't get the luxury of a raging turner very often and I'd wager Rehan just doesn't get the overs he'd really need to develop as a leg spinner (one of the hardest and most unforgiving crafts in the game). That's through a combination of missing games due to England/IPL as you say and the number of games we play on seaming decks where Holland may make hay but a spinner isn't going to get much of a look in.

Yeah that's fair. Maybe he will have to accept that he's probably only going to play on away tours in Asia. 

Proving he can bat at 6 to a high standard is probably his best bet, in the role Lawrence has currently with the occasional bit with the ball. But in England, they seem to prefer off spin in test cricket. 

[everton carr]

14 minutes ago, RowlattsFox said:

Yeah that's fair. Maybe he will have to accept that he's probably only going to play on away tours in Asia. 

Proving he can bat at 6 to a high standard is probably his best bet, in the role Lawrence has currently with the occasional bit with the ball. But in England, they seem to prefer off spin in test cricket. 

Crane coming on leaps and bounds with his batting 2 centuries and a 99 last season

[CrawlingFox]

32 minutes ago, RowlattsFox said:

Yeah that's fair. Maybe he will have to accept that he's probably only going to play on away tours in Asia. 

Proving he can bat at 6 to a high standard is probably his best bet, in the role Lawrence has currently with the occasional bit with the ball. But in England, they seem to prefer off spin in test cricket. 

He had a good season at 3 in the promotion season I think if he'd have backed that up with a dominant season there in D1 this season just gone it would have been interesting.

 

As it is I suspect England see him as an interesting player because he's a leggie but he looks a touch "bits and pieces" and I struggle to see him finding a consistent spot in any format.

 

Agree with those who said he needs to knuckle down, start to really churn out the runs in red and white ball. His record in all formats currently is ok but nothing that is really that impressive. Fine whilst he's 22 but by the time he's 25 needs to have a batting average nearer 40 or a bowling average under 30, both might be greedy! Currently 32.6 for batting and 37.7 for bowling, 17.9 and 27.4 in t20.

 

Good for us, but won't be more than bits and pieces or maybe handy for a tour where spin will be dominant for England at best.

[when_you're_smiling]

20 hours ago, CrawlingFox said:

Whilst this is true I always think it's hard to really tell as spinners in England don't get the luxury of a raging turner very often and I'd wager Rehan just doesn't get the overs he'd really need to develop as a leg spinner (one of the hardest and most unforgiving crafts in the game). That's through a combination of missing games due to England/IPL as you say and the number of games we play on seaming decks where Holland may make hay but a spinner isn't going to get much of a look in.

This and English cricket has no patience for leg spinners and letting them develop. It takes years to master it and because of how difficult it is, you will give up boundary balls more often than other bowling styles.
 

Ahmed’s not the new Shane Warne…but he’s still younger now than Warne was on his test debut and he was a freak (for want of a better word). There’s plenty to come from Rehan.