Raj Posted 7 June 2007 Share Posted 7 June 2007 MANWELL PABLO V THRACIAN. VICKY PARK SUNDAY 2P.M BE THERE OR BE SQUARE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevosevic Posted 7 June 2007 Share Posted 7 June 2007 Fryatt is better than Hammond, simple as that. Lets draw a line under this issue, a big black one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fez of Mahrez Posted 7 June 2007 Share Posted 7 June 2007 Let's not bring Kenton into this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raj Posted 7 June 2007 Share Posted 7 June 2007 Fryatt is better than Hammond, simple as that.Lets draw a line under this issue, a big black one! Care to rephrase that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevosevic Posted 7 June 2007 Share Posted 7 June 2007 Care to rephrase that! It can be pink for all i care, just as long as it is big because i'm bored of this Hammond v Fryatt debate. There's only one way to settle it, how about a poll? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubes Posted 7 June 2007 Share Posted 7 June 2007 Care to rephrase that! hes just copying tracy from big brother Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEBIGJOHNSTEADER; Posted 7 June 2007 Share Posted 7 June 2007 MANWELL PABLO V THRACIAN.VICKY PARK SUNDAY 2P.M BE THERE OR BE SQUARE! I think you'll find it's usually the squares who flock to public parks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manwell Pablo Posted 7 June 2007 Share Posted 7 June 2007 It can be pink for all i care, just as long as it is big because i'm bored of this Hammond v Fryatt debate. There's only one way to settle it, how about a poll? We did that, Hammond lost, issue still not solved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miquel The Work Geordie Posted 7 June 2007 Share Posted 7 June 2007 That's my point proved I guess. I did say I'd be happy to wait for the start of the season and for Fryatt to start like everyone else on a clean sheet.But I warned it wouldn't happen and that people would start their illogical flag-flying and renewed excuse-making for Fryatt. For the last time Fryatt didn't have a good first season. He scored twice in the last 14 games. He didn't have a good season in 2006-2007 either scoring just four goals in 23 which would have seen him left out of any team if he wasn't so inexplicably favoured. I am not certain his foot problem wasn't troubling him in the first season and I am no more sure it is all behind him now. Honestly what evidence anyone can possibly forward for saying Fryatt will do this, that or the other next season? There is none. Yes we hope, and should all hope that he regains his speed, his sharpness, his instinct for goal and finally, at long last develops the additional skills he'll need to be a decent striker. But there is no logical reason for believing that will happen or believing that his problems are behind him. He has to show it. Kelly may have acted wrongly but blaming Kelly is just another excuse that no other striker would have been given. It was obvious Fryatt wouldn't be fit - I got sick of saying so myself. But the fans weren't interested in easing him back at all. "Fryatt should start", bayed the madding crowd in a poll. Fryatt should never have started. He never justified a starting place and it wasn't in his or the teams best interests. And he should have known he wasn't ready and said so. Now he needs first to first demonstrate his FULL fitness in the pre-season matches and perhaps the reserves and then be eased back into a striking berth off the bench if he rates a place. However you paint it Fryatt was of very modest use to the team last season from day one and while every player might have benefitted from better service I can't remember Fryatt being particlarly dangerous from crosses anyway. His aerial ability is extremely limited, he's not a near post specialist nor a far post specialist. He's a guy who benefits from the threaded pass, and from manouevring the ball into a shooting position with his individual skill, often after diagonal runs. But that didn't happen because after 20 minutes or so he simply didn't have the sharpness left to get the edge on a defender. Now please can we let the new season bring what it brings and judge him then - by what he does not what his fee or his wages suggest he should do. I'm not a member of the Official Matt Fryatt fan club (one of these flag-wavers that you mention), and I think that the stats you have produced are misleading. You say he scored twice in fourteen games yet you fail to mention his dynamic and effective partnership with Hume that lifted the morale of the whole team at a difficult period for the club. I feel also that Fraytt's ariel prowess is not as good as it could be, but crosses from either wing don't necessarily have to be high in the air. Unfortunatley our midfielders don't seem to understand that a quick, whipped cross perfect for a tap in or volley would be more suitable for Fryatt, thus increasing his potential scoring ability from crosses. And, again, can you see any of our midfielders threading a pass through the opposition defence, Riquelme style? Sorry, but I don't think that that's a quality any of our midfielders have. When Kelly forced Fryatt back in the ream too soon and he didn't mention it, to me, that showed that he wanted to help the team battle against the drop and that he wanted to be a part of every second of the fight. To me that shows commitment. The reason that people like Fryatt and want to see his name on the team-sheet is because he is a good player. The sooner you see that, the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thracian Posted 7 June 2007 Author Share Posted 7 June 2007 I'm not a member of the Official Matt Fryatt fan club (one of these flag-wavers that you mention), and I think that the stats you have produced are misleading. You say he scored twice in fourteen games yet you fail to mention his dynamic and effective partnership with Hume that lifted the morale of the whole team at a difficult period for the club.I feel also that Fraytt's ariel prowess is not as good as it could be, but crosses from either wing don't necessarily have to be high in the air. Unfortunatley our midfielders don't seem to understand that a quick, whipped cross perfect for a tap in or volley would be more suitable for Fryatt, thus increasing his potential scoring ability from crosses. And, again, can you see any of our midfielders threading a pass through the opposition defence, Riquelme style? Sorry, but I don't think that that's a quality any of our midfielders have. When Kelly forced Fryatt back in the ream too soon and he didn't mention it, to me, that showed that he wanted to help the team battle against the drop and that he wanted to be a part of every second of the fight. To me that shows commitment. The reason that people like Fryatt and want to see his name on the team-sheet is because he is a good player. The sooner you see that, the better. I would love to see that - and am still waiting patiently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miquel The Work Geordie Posted 7 June 2007 Share Posted 7 June 2007 I would love to see that - and am still waiting patiently. We already have seen it, you wont need to wait long... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevosevic Posted 7 June 2007 Share Posted 7 June 2007 I would love to see that - and am still waiting patiently. Yes, i'm sure one day he will be as good a player as Elvis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookwhaticando Posted 7 June 2007 Share Posted 7 June 2007 This thread is going nowhere, it no longer has anything to do with a very fluffy rumour with seemingly little substance. I blame Rob Kelly. If the 'rumour' resurfaces with a little more substance, we can start again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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