Fry-ing away soon?

[Thracian]

Why is everyone so keen to dump Fryatt? Surely after he showed us what he can do when he arrived here, after we have witnessed his potential, we should keep him. From what I understand we'll be entering the "Pontins" reserve league next season, lets put Fryatt in there along with a few of the academy lads, and let him re-find his goalscoring instinct. We cannot judge him on this season after he has been hit so heavily by injury, and when he was pushed back into the squad too early it was blatantly obvious that he wasn't 100%.

One bad season does not a crap player make.

He scored two goals in his last 14 games last season and only 4 in 23. Considering Martin allen's looking for 80 goals all told to give us a chance of going up I'm sure he's gonna be much reassured.

[dandannieldanok]

Has the potential to score goals with consistent service. To be honest I'm not too bothered whether he leaves or not.

[Matt]

If he stays great if he goes, oh well

Most of the players can go but the rest of them I have the same opinion on as Fryatt. TBF Fryatt has an excuse - injury, but (most of) the players that played most of the season...

[Miquel The Work Geordie]

He scored two goals in his last 14 games last season and only 4 in 23. Considering Martin allen's looking for 80 goals all told to give us a chance of going up I'm sure he's gonna be much reassured.

As I said before he has been blighted by injury and I'm quite annoyed that you're using one of our better players as a scapegoat for the clubs lack of success last year. You cannot make out that Fryatt is an unworthy component of our team when he has lacked opportunities this season, and the fact that there are no left/right midfielders with anything close to a decent cross has certainly hampered his success in front of goal.

The simple fact of the matter is that Captain Cock (Kelly) forced him back into the squad far too soon, and yet he still managed to score against Derby with a fantastic finish. When he is completely rid of his injury (after a good pre-season training schedule), I'm sure we'll have plenty more of that on a regular basis.

[Chairman of the Bored]

That's story is just a space filler on a crap website.

Matt Fryatty (as he was called at Preston on their tannoy) will stay and lead us to glorious promotion. Well, I can dream can't I?

[He's not bald]

http://www.walsall.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=67401

This will bring tears to a few eyes!.

No idea if its true but if he does move I'm sure it will be best all round but I'd hope he can recapture the sort of promise he showed so briefly when he arrived.

Perhaps his experiences at Leicester will re-focus his attention and make him realise there's a thin line between success and failure. And that being fully fit is vital.

Will this mean that I will have to replace pig bag as my ringtone?

[volpeazzurro]

Will this mean that I will have to replace pig bag as my ringtone?

I still believe Fryatt has a lot to offer and that his relative failure thus far has been down to:

1. A poor midfield and general hoof ball not suited to his style of play.

2. Injury.

What worryingly stands out for me in the report highlighted by Thracian was the term 'Martin Allen's style of play? Are we in for a treat with yet more 'hoofball'?

Cheers.

[l444ry]

I still believe Fryatt has a lot to offer and that his relative failure thus far has been down to:

1. A poor midfield and general hoof ball not suited to his style of play.

2. Injury.

What worryingly stands out for me in the report highlighted by Thracian was the term 'Martin Allen's style of play? Are we in for a treat with yet more 'hoofball'?

Cheers.

What planet have you just arrived from, Volpe?

[Thracian]

That's story is just a space filler on a crap website.

Matt Fryatty (as he was called at Preston on their tannoy) will stay and lead us to glorious promotion. Well, I can dream can't I?

That's not a dream - it's an hallucination.

[Ozwin]

I think this season will be his time to shine tbh. Injuries out of his system, time to recover and get himself in shape, he could be one of the top scorers IMO.

[Ultra]

I think our managers haven't used Fryatt to his best advantage, especially with a midfield as poor as we've had in the last two seasons..

His best position would be as a second striker, playing with a tall traditional centre-forward.

But as Hume has that nailed down he may either have to settle for a bit-part or move on.

My guess is that will Allen may already know whether Fryatt features in his plans or not.

[Cheese Me]

Ridiculous scape goating.

Fryatt is a much better player than most on here are giving him credit for and is certainly more of a natural goalscorer than Hume (who incidentally I do also rate as a quality player).

Fryatt playing off a target man and Hume in the hole or out wide will be our key to success next year.

[azza89]

As I said before he has been blighted by injury and I'm quite annoyed that you're using one of our better players as a scapegoat for the clubs lack of success last year. You cannot make out that Fryatt is an unworthy component of our team when he has lacked opportunities this season, and the fact that there are no left/right midfielders with anything close to a decent cross has certainly hampered his success in front of goal.

The simple fact of the matter is that Captain Cock (Kelly) forced him back into the squad far too soon, and yet he still managed to score against Derby with a fantastic finish. When he is completely rid of his injury (after a good pre-season training schedule), I'm sure we'll have plenty more of that on a regular basis.

I agree. I believe that he will become a top player for us next season.

[Blue Bob]

This can only be good if :

1.We make a profit on him - Is this likely as he has been injured and hasnt exactly set the world on fire since he has been here. If I remember rightly the Physio has had to teach him how to run properly as this was causing his injuries. This would be a hell of a warning to clubs looking to buy him. The article implies that they are going to get a return on him so that means we are going to have to sell him at a profit.

2. If we do get a decent return who do we get in to replace him?

Answers on a postcard to the usual address please.

[Thracian]

But a good season or two in the academy or reserve leagues does make a good player?

This post is sponsored by Ariston -and on, and on, and on...

[The People's Hero]

This post is sponsored by Ariston -and on, and on, and on...

Irony is.

[Thracian]

As I said before he has been blighted by injury and I'm quite annoyed that you're using one of our better players as a scapegoat for the clubs lack of success last year. You cannot make out that Fryatt is an unworthy component of our team when he has lacked opportunities this season, and the fact that there are no left/right midfielders with anything close to a decent cross has certainly hampered his success in front of goal.

The simple fact of the matter is that Captain Cock (Kelly) forced him back into the squad far too soon, and yet he still managed to score against Derby with a fantastic finish. When he is completely rid of his injury (after a good pre-season training schedule), I'm sure we'll have plenty more of that on a regular basis.

That's my point proved I guess. I did say I'd be happy to wait for the start of the season and for Fryatt to start like everyone else on a clean sheet.

But I warned it wouldn't happen and that people would start their illogical flag-flying and renewed excuse-making for Fryatt.

For the last time Fryatt didn't have a good first season. He scored twice in the last 14 games.

He didn't have a good season in 2006-2007 either scoring just four goals in 23 which would have seen him left out of any team if he wasn't so inexplicably favoured.

I am not certain his foot problem wasn't troubling him in the first season and I am no more sure it is all behind him now. Honestly what evidence anyone can possibly forward for saying Fryatt will do this, that or the other next season? There is none.

Yes we hope, and should all hope that he regains his speed, his sharpness, his instinct for goal and finally, at long last develops the additional skills he'll need to be a decent striker.

But there is no logical reason for believing that will happen or believing that his problems are behind him. He has to show it.

Kelly may have acted wrongly but blaming Kelly is just another excuse that no other striker would have been given.

It was obvious Fryatt wouldn't be fit - I got sick of saying so myself.

But the fans weren't interested in easing him back at all. "Fryatt should start", bayed the madding crowd in a poll. Fryatt should never have started. He never justified a starting place and it wasn't in his or the teams best interests.

And he should have known he wasn't ready and said so.

Now he needs first to first demonstrate his FULL fitness in the pre-season matches and perhaps the reserves and then be eased back into a striking berth off the bench if he rates a place.

However you paint it Fryatt was of very modest use to the team last season from day one and while every player might have benefitted from better service I can't remember Fryatt being particlarly dangerous from crosses anyway.

His aerial ability is extremely limited, he's not a near post specialist nor a far post specialist. He's a guy who benefits from the threaded pass, and from manouevring the ball into a shooting position with his individual skill, often after diagonal runs.

But that didn't happen because after 20 minutes or so he simply didn't have the sharpness left to get the edge on a defender.

Now please can we let the new season bring what it brings and judge him then - by what he does not what his fee or his wages suggest he should do.

[Fez of Mahrez]

Hahahaha. That's the secret of good comedTIMING.

[Manwell Pablo]

That's my point proved I guess. I did say I'd be happy to wait for the start of the season and for Fryatt to start like everyone else on a clean sheet.

But I warned it wouldn't happen and that people would start their illogical flag-flying and renewed excuse-making for Fryatt.

For the last time Fryatt didn't have a good first season. He scored twice in the last 14.

He didn't have a good season in 2006-2007 either scoring just four goals om 19 which would have seen him left out of any team if he wasn't so inexplicably favoured.

I am not certain his foot problem wasn't troubling him in the first season and I no more sure it is all behind him now. Honestly what evidence anyone can possibly forward for saying Fryatt will do this, that or the other next season? There is none.

Yes we hope, and should all hope that he regains his speed, his sharpness, his instinct for goal and finally, at long last develops the additional skills he'll need to be a decent striker.

But there is no logical reason for believing that will happen or believing that his problems are behind him.

Kelly may have acted wrongly but blaming Kelly is just another excuse that no other striker would have been given.

It was obvious Fryatt wouldn't be fit - I got sick of saying so myself.

But the fans weren't interested in easing him back at all. "Fryatt should start", bayed the madding crowd in a poll. Fryatt should never have started. He never justified a starting place and it wasn't in his or the teams best interests.

And he should have known he wasn't ready and said so.

Now he needs first to first demonstrate his FULL fitness in the pre-season matches and perhaps the reserves and then be eased back into a striking berth off the bench if he rates a place.

However you paint it Fryatt was of very modest use to the team last season from day one and while every playing might have benefitted from better service I can't remember Fryatt being particlarly dangerous from crosses anyway.

His aerial ability is extremely limited, he's not a near post specialist nor a far post specialist. He's a guy who benefits from the threaded pass, and from manouevring the ball into a shooting position with his individual skill, often after diagonal runs.

But that didn't happen because after 20 minutes or so he simply didn't have the sharpness left to get the edge on a defender.

Now please can we let the new season bring what it brings and judge him then - by what he does not what his fee or his wages suggest he should do.

He didn't have a good season because you've abused the stats.

He scored 20 goals, he had a good season.

[Fez of Mahrez]

Nah, Fryatt's goals for Walsall don't count because they were in League One, not at a high level like Northwich Victoria v Leicester Under 18s in the Champions League.

[The People's Hero]

This post is sponsored by Ariston -and on, and on, and on...

Irony is.

That's my point proved I guess. I did say I'd be happy to wait for the start of the season and for Fryatt to start like everyone else on a clean sheet.

But I warned it wouldn't happen and that people would start their illogical flag-flying and renewed excuse-making for Fryatt.

For the last time Fryatt didn't have a good first season. He scored twice in the last 14 games.

He didn't have a good season in 2006-2007 either scoring just four goals in 23 which would have seen him left out of any team if he wasn't so inexplicably favoured.

I am not certain his foot problem wasn't troubling him in the first season and I am no more sure it is all behind him now. Honestly what evidence anyone can possibly forward for saying Fryatt will do this, that or the other next season? There is none.

Yes we hope, and should all hope that he regains his speed, his sharpness, his instinct for goal and finally, at long last develops the additional skills he'll need to be a decent striker.

But there is no logical reason for believing that will happen or believing that his problems are behind him. He has to show it.

Kelly may have acted wrongly but blaming Kelly is just another excuse that no other striker would have been given.

It was obvious Fryatt wouldn't be fit - I got sick of saying so myself.

But the fans weren't interested in easing him back at all. "Fryatt should start", bayed the madding crowd in a poll. Fryatt should never have started. He never justified a starting place and it wasn't in his or the teams best interests.

And he should have known he wasn't ready and said so.

Now he needs first to first demonstrate his FULL fitness in the pre-season matches and perhaps the reserves and then be eased back into a striking berth off the bench if he rates a place.

However you paint it Fryatt was of very modest use to the team last season from day one and while every player might have benefitted from better service I can't remember Fryatt being particlarly dangerous from crosses anyway.

His aerial ability is extremely limited, he's not a near post specialist nor a far post specialist. He's a guy who benefits from the threaded pass, and from manouevring the ball into a shooting position with his individual skill, often after diagonal runs.

But that didn't happen because after 20 minutes or so he simply didn't have the sharpness left to get the edge on a defender.

Now please can we let the new season bring what it brings and judge him then - by what he does not what his fee or his wages suggest he should do.

[Thracian]

He didn't have a good season because you've abused the stats.

He scored 20 goals, he had a good season.

Use your stats by all means Manwell.

How many goals has Matty Fryatt scored for Leicester City since he joined us nearly 18 months ago?. And what is his goals average per game?

I am not particularly interested in goals for previous clubs , not so much because of your belief that they don't really count, but because the meat of my argument is that Fryatt seems no longer to be as sharp as the player who first joined us.

And as a striker who doesn't have the physical attributes of some strikers, like height, great strength, great speed, exceptional heading ability or a Lorimer-like thunderbolt of a shot, any lack of sharpness is a serious blow to the lad.

And something he needs to show he has got back before anyone talks about him being first team material.

[Manwell Pablo]

Nah, Fryatt's goals for Walsall don't count because they were in League One, not at a high level like Northwich Victoria v Leicester Under 18s in the Champions League.

ah, your right, if only he had managed two goals in League Two and 11 League apperances in his career by the time he reached twenty, we'd probabley be on to something.

By the way Thracian you do know Louis Dodds is from Sheffield don't you?

[The People's Hero]

Use your stats by all means Manwell.

How many goals has Matty Fryatt scored for Leicester City since he joined us nearly 18 months ago?. And what is his goals average per game?

I am not particularly interested in goals for previous clubs , not so much because of your belief that they don't really count, but because the meat of my argument is that Fryatt seems no longer to be as sharp as the player who first joined us.

And as a striker who doesn't have the physical attributes of some strikers, like height, great strength, great speed, exceptional heading ability or a Lorimer-like thunderbolt of a shot, any lack of sharpness is a serious blow to the lad.

And something he needs to show he has got back before anyone talks about him being first team material.

Do we really have to prove you wrong another time?

Don't you tire of it?

[Manwell Pablo]

Use your stats by all means Manwell.

How many goals has Matty Fryatt scored for Leicester City since he joined us nearly 18 months ago?. And what is his goals average per game?

I am not particularly interested in goals for previous clubs , not so much because of your belief that they don't really count, but because the meat of my argument is that Fryatt seems no longer to be as sharp as the player who first joined us.

And as a striker who doesn't have the physical attributes of some strikers, like height, great strength, great speed, exceptional heading ability or a Lorimer-like thunderbolt of a shot, any lack of sharpness is a serious blow to the lad.

And something he needs to show he has got back before anyone talks about him being first team material.

I am extremly bored of this as I have already said

If you want to sit there and pretend you know it all Thracian thats fine, he scored goals when he first arrived and has his whole career, he had a poor season last year, so did most of the team.

You can write him off over and over again if you want. I believe he's got a future playing football at this level at least.

I'd never said goals in League One don't count. Just that 5 goals in the Confernce and 2 goals in League Two as well as 2 assists in whatever X amount of games Sheehan played at Mansfield isn't impressive.