dodds wants to stay at lincoln

[Finnegan]

b) Divison Two Lincoln is not so far from near bottom of the Championship Leicester. We lost half a game to Divison One Forest and so-nearly lost the return.

Er. Alternatively we can point out that Lincoln City are (sorry Kokopops) four places off non-league football, playing the likes of Mansfield, Dagenham and Barnet on windy Tuesday nights.

[Thracian]

You completely missed my point, the same one you didn't respond to in another thread. Look past our managers and look at the whole football community - as others have stated only League Two sides and a Conference one have picked him up. Your basically saying that your judgement is better than the 48 manager in the Championship and League One when you claim that if we played him 'he'd have scored goals, no problem'. I don't think so. You also state it like its a fact, its not its your OPINION.

As for your crazy staement that Dodds in League Two is not so far from city - their bottom half by that logic we are as 'not so far' from Arsenal

Leicester got the run around second half against Accrington and finally won by an unimpressive 1-0. Accrington are a little higher up the same League as Lincoln.

And didn't Lincoln themselves hold us to 3-3 in a friendly last season having hammered us first half? I don't see us as being much better now to be honest.

Not from the evidence so far.

I don't know for a minute that 48 managers in the Championship and League One wouldn't back Dodds to score goals nor do I know how you know.

But if there was proof they thought that I'd still have no problem backing my own judgement.

Or repeating my belief that he'd score goals.

I've always been prepared to back my judgement. What's the point in having an opinion if you have no conviction about it?

[Manwell Pablo]

Leicester got the run around second half against Accrington and finally won by an unimpressive 1-0. Accrington are a little higher up the same League as Lincoln.

And didn't Lincoln themselves hold us to 3-3 in a friendly last season having hammered us first half? I don't see us as being much better now to be honest.

Not from the evidence so far.

I don't know for a minute that 48 managers in the Championship and League One wouldn't back Dodds to score goals nor do I know how you know.

But if there was proof they thought that I'd still have no problem backing my own judgement.

Or repeating my belief that he'd score goals.

I've always been prepared to back my judgement. What's the point in having an opinion if you have no conviction about it?

But wait?

Didn't we beat Spurs in a one off cup game not so long ago? who in turn beat Chelsea last season?

Indeed I believe it was they who were victorious against Barcelona, in a two legged game no less.

Was it not Barcelona that deafted Arsenal! In a Champions league final!? My goodness we're EUROPEAN MATERIAL.

In turn so must Accrington and Lincoln!

GET REAL!

[Thracian]

I think you have to look at how good Dodds thinks he is and after a short while in the lower leagues it seems he has found "home". You would have thought with a new manager coming in at his parent club that he would want to impress whilst on loan and come back fighting for a first team place but he has shown to be a bit of a yellow bellied type of person to say that he wants to stay at Lincoln on a permanent deal. That type of character is not what we want so I would get shot of him faster than you can say Ian Baraclough.

Hardly. Dodds has been at City for years. He even knows Kelly wanted to give him a chance. But Kelly preferred to bring in the likes of Horsfield and Cadamarteri - because he preferred to stick with experience in a crisis - and then turned to the forever blank-firing Fryatt when he was available I think Dodds concluded he was never going to get a chance.

Doubtless had you been in Dodds position you would have gamely stuck it out and shown your wonderful strength of character by sticking around.

Dodds decided he'd rather get some games. Big deal.

Now we still have the likes of DeVries and Fryatt in our first team. It's not Dodds that's losing out. It's us that need the goals.

And sooner or later we'll have to cut our losses and find players to score em.

[The People's Hero]

Thracian.

For god's sake man - get a grip.

Look at some of the stuff you've typed out.

You're getting so so so so desperate and you look a fool.

For the love of god man, I'm actually starting to feel pity for you.

There's only so long you can argue the sky is pink for... look up, we're all showing you. We've put it in front of you. It's clear. He's not the answer Thracian. If he was, don't you think there would have been more interest than Rochdale or fu cking Lincoln City.

And where are Lincoln playing him? He's not even good enough to play upfront for them! They are playing him out of position. And they are rubbish.

Just explain to me one more time, please, without using lofty, meaningly generalisations and chip-on-shoulder it's-not-fair isms and tell me why a young player, employed wide midfield and having very little impact in a lower league side is the answer to our striking problems.

Put up or shut up Thracian.

Think about this next post...

[Thracian]

Thracian.

For god's sake man - get a grip.

Look at some of the stuff you've typed out.

You're getting so so so so desperate and you look a fool.

For the love of god man, I'm actually starting to feel pity for you.

There's only so long you can argue the sky is pink for... look up, we're all showing you. We've put it in front of you. It's clear. He's not the answer Thracian. If he was, don't you think there would have been more interest than Rochdale or fu cking Lincoln City.

And where are Lincoln playing him? He's not even good enough to play upfront for them! They are playing him out of position. And they are rubbish.

Just explain to me one more time, please, without using lofty, meaningly generalisations and chip-on-shoulder it's-not-fair isms and tell me why a young player, employed wide midfield and having very little impact in a lower league side is the answer to our striking problems.

Put up or shut up Thracian.

Think about this next post...

Why don't you go and get some work done?. You've barely had a single good word to say about ANY of our young players since the time I've been on this forum and would barely recognise them anyway.

And no-one - least of all me - has EVER said that he is "the answer" to our striking problems so why I should argue about the point escapes me.

Do I think he was a better option than Horsfield, Cadamarteri, Fryatt last season, Fryatt this season, DeVries and probably even Campbell. Yes. Five out of six for sure, Campbell I don't know.

Plain enough?

[hebangsthedrums]

Leicester got the run around second half against Accrington and finally won by an unimpressive 1-0. Accrington are a little higher up the same League as Lincoln.

I give up. Whats the point of having leagues, we can just decide clubs ability on the basis of random results

And didn't Lincoln themselves hold us to 3-3 in a friendly last season having hammered us first half? I don't see us as being much better now to be honest.

As above. We are better otherwise we would be in League Two

Not from the evidence so far.

I don't know for a minute that 48 managers in the Championship and League One wouldn't back Dodds to score goals nor do I know how you know.

because none of them have made any attempt to sign him when he would clearly be well within budget if lincoln can afford him.

But if there was proof they thought that I'd still have no problem backing my own judgement.

Its all a conspiracy. Loads of managers rate Louis, but city would only let him go to Lincoln

Or repeating my belief that he'd score goals.

Exactly, belief - you have no idea whether he actually would or are you Mystic Meg?

I've always been prepared to back my judgement. What's the point in having an opinion if you have no conviction about it?

Nothing wrong with having an opinion, but you post like your opinion is fact

[Thracian]

I doubt anyone wants to discuss this. Dodds is at Lincoln now. I can't see him coming back to Leicester.

I've had a bet about how many goals I think he'll score, same as I had a bet about Fryatt last season.

In view of that it would help if he played striker but I doubt Lincoln are especially concerned how my bet goes so I'll just have to trust to providence.

That he's collecting ratings around 7 - and goals - while playing wide and in midfield suggests more versatile than I thought he was.

[The People's Hero]

Why don't you go and get some work done?. You've barely had a single good word to say about ANY of our young players since the time I've been on this forum and would barely recognise them anyway.

And no-one - least of all me - has EVER said that he is "the answer" to our striking problems so why I should argue about the point escapes me.

Do I think he was a better option than Horsfield, Cadamarteri, Fryatt last season, Fryatt this season, DeVries and probably even Campbell. Yes. Five out of six for sure, Campbell I don't know.

Plain enough?

Yes, it's plain and it's simple. Much like your understanding of the beautiful game.

If Lincoln could have Fryatt or Dodds on loan, they'd have Dodds like a shot.

The fact that a league two side have taken him on loan and played him out of position where he has been mediocre proves nothing Thracian.

If it lends support to any argument, it's that he's NOT good enough for LCFC.

[Ric Flair]

Apologies for turning up to this party late, but has it crossed anyone's mind that the reason Louis might be playing in midfield instead of upfront is because the mighty Lincoln don't think he's very good as a striker? There's another aspect to argue Thracian.

[Thracian]

Yes, it's plain and it's simple. Much like your understanding of the beautiful game.

If Lincoln could have Fryatt or Dodds on loan, they'd have Dodds like a shot.

The fact that a league two side have taken him on loan and played him out of position where he has been mediocre proves nothing Thracian.

If it lends support to any argument, it's that he's NOT good enough for LCFC.

You may call three goals in seven games (not playing striker) mediocre but I sure wish Fryatt would score for us at that rate.

[Manwell Pablo]

Apologies for turning up to this party late, but has it crossed anyone's mind that the reason Louis might be playing in midfield instead of upfront is because the mighty Lincoln don't think he's very good as a striker? There's another aspect to argue Thracian.

Don't get your hopes mate, he's ignoring all the good points.

[Thracian]

Apologies for turning up to this party late, but has it crossed anyone's mind that the reason Louis might be playing in midfield instead of upfront is because the mighty Lincoln don't think he's very good as a striker? There's another aspect to argue Thracian.

The impression I've got is that they'd already got two decent strikers in situ when Dodds arrived. They wanted to ease him in by playing him out wide and he's done well enough there for them to retain the status quo.

It's quite possible the other strikers are less versatile than Dodds and therefore this solution keeps everyone happy, including Dodds being the new boy.

[hebangsthedrums]

Don't get your hopes mate, he's ignoring all the good points.

It's quite possible the other strikers are less versatile than Dodds and therefore this solution keeps everyone happy, including Dodds being the new boy.

Thats the crux of it really - if Dodds actually is a striker capable of scoring regularly in the Championship would he be sacrificed for two League Two strikers? Yes they could both be excellent strikers, but then Lincoln probably wouldn't be 20th in League Two would they?

[Moreton]

I wouldnt like to see him go, it was said by one of the coaches at leicester that he was the most natural goal scores there...

[Thracian]

Thats the crux of it really - if Dodds actually is a striker capable of scoring regularly in the Championship would he be sacrificed for two League Two strikers? Yes they could both be excellent strikers, but then Lincoln probably wouldn't be 20th in League Two would they?

He might well "sacrificed" for now if Lincoln have invested their biggest money in those guys and would rather accommodate them in the team than not.

Internal politics is responsible for a great many things that happen in football.

Why Lincoln are 20th in Divison Two is a totally different question and not one I am in any way able to answer.

[Lord Nibblington]

Shall be interesting to see how Dodds does over the course of a whole season, rather than just a handful of games at the start of the season.

[Thracian]

Shall be interesting to see how Dodds does over the course of a whole season, rather than just a handful of games at the start of the season.

Indeed. But he's not averaging anything unusual just at the next level up. He got 3 in 6 for Northwich too. And mostly in one's so he usually scores consistently rather than in clutches.

[Lord Nibblington]

Indeed. But he's not averaging anything unusual just at the next level up. He got 3 in 6 for Northwich too. And mostly in one's so he usually scores consistently rather than in clutches.

Yes, but the difference here is that he's not on a short term loan. He's there for the season, giving a chance for teams to work him out.

It's a good start goal scoaring wise, but I'll be interested to see how he reacts when the goals don't come.

[Geo V]

Hardly. Dodds has been at City for years. He even knows Kelly wanted to give him a chance. But Kelly preferred to bring in the likes of Horsfield and Cadamarteri - because he preferred to stick with experience in a crisis - and then turned to the forever blank-firing Fryatt when he was available I think Dodds concluded he was never going to get a chance.

Doubtless had you been in Dodds position you would have gamely stuck it out and shown your wonderful strength of character by sticking around.

Dodds decided he'd rather get some games. Big deal.

Now we still have the likes of DeVries and Fryatt in our first team. It's not Dodds that's losing out. It's us that need the goals.

And sooner or later we'll have to cut our losses and find players to score em.

To end the chat on the lad, he cant be regarded that highly because all he got offered was a one year deal if memory serves me and even when we were in deep shite we looked at the likes of Yeates and Horsfield. Wortho came in and introduced avery young and inexperienced Mattock to the team and didn't bother with Dodds and MA also wasn't impressed enough to involve him in the first team plans.

Quite a few lads over the months have seen him in pre-season or reserve games and the only one who still to this day is show sure of him scoring goals at this level and puts him ahead of MDV and Fryatt is a rather disturbing passionate Thracian. I bet you have about 200 photographs of the lad on your wall?!!