3-5-2

[Kent Fox]

It doesn't matter who the opposition are Chambers is not a competent midfielder and Kish hasn't got the stamina or the creativity to play that role.

Until Megson picks his next team we wont know if this was a one off for Villa or if he intends to pursue this defensively biased team.

From looking at the ratings thread, the jury is still out on Chambers in midfield. Kishishev, it appears, does not have the fitness. I don't know whther I agree on the creativity point though. If he's not a runner, why did we buy him?

I think GM will stick to 3-5-2 because the point of 3-5-2 is that it can be an attack minded formation, or it can easily be swapped to a 5-3-2.

[BigGibbo]

Defo 3-5-2 has been my choice formation since ive been here with the players available to us

check it out

----------------------------Fulop

-------------Kisnorbo ---N'Gotty---McAuley

kaebi----------------------------------------------Mattock

---------------Clemence-------Wesolowski

-------------------------- Hume

-----------------de vries---------Fryatt

Which puts me in a pickle because i think chambers is one of our best defenders but he hasn't got the attacking presence of Kaebi & isn't as strong as the three centre backs at centre back he can be on the bench as a closer

Bench:

Chambers

Sheehan

Kishishev

Ferreira

DJ Campbell

The bench covers every position & as you notice no keeper 'cos other than Fulop there all pretty sh!t & they rarely have to be subbed anyway + its fun when a player has to go in goal & usually works in your favour

[Sir Fynwy]

It doesn't matter who the opposition are Chambers is not a competent midfielder and Kish hasn't got the stamina or the creativity to play that role.

Until Megson picks his next team we wont know if this was a one off for Villa or if he intends to pursue this defensively biased team.

The problem is our squad hasn't got a wealth of midfield talent and until they sign some we're stuck, I don't think anyone would be happy with playing 5 fullback (like we were at the end of the match last night).

[Fez of Mahrez]

3-5-2 and 5-3-2 are essentially the same thing but can appear to be different depending on how the game is going. If our three central midfielders had been in control last night it would have been seen as being 3-5-2. The bottom line is that it's a wing-back system either way.

This 3-5-2/5-3-2 rubbish is like Thracian and his plan to play 4-2-4 instead of 4-4-2.

[Ozwin]

The wing back positions were absolutely made for Mattock and Stearman. They're not the best defenders in the world but going forward they're great.

[Wherethefoxhat?]

Defo 3-5-2 has been my choice formation since ive been here with the players available to us

check it out

----------------------------Fulop

-------------Kisnorbo ---N'Gotty---McAuley

kaebi----------------------------------------------Mattock

---------------Clemence-------Wesolowski

-------------------------- Hume

-----------------de vries---------Fryatt

Which puts me in a pickle because i think chambers is one of our best defenders but he hasn't got the attacking presence of Kaebi & isn't as strong as the three centre backs at centre back he can be on the bench as a closer

Bench:

Chambers

Sheehan

Kishishev

Ferreira

DJ Campbell

The bench covers every position & as you notice no keeper 'cos other than Fulop there all pretty sh!t & they rarely have to be subbed anyway + its fun when a player has to go in goal & usually works in your favour

What's Stearman ever done to you??????

[Fez of Mahrez]

What's Stearman ever done to you??????

There's only one right wing-back position and you get the feeling two of Stearman, Kaebi and Chambers are going to miss out bigtime under Megson.

[BigGibbo]

It was a 532 with an overloaded defensive middle 3, this formation will probably bring more clean sheets but will not solve our goal scoring problem, second worse in the league?.

If we're going down this route we'll need a better midfield than we had last night. As minimum we need Clemence, Weso and a creative Izzett type of player.

As it stands you could select our future results from 0-1, 1-0 or 0-0, if we get lucky we could end up with more 1-0s in our favour.

We've/ive known that was the case since Megson took over thats what he's about & chances are with the formation & team ive mentioned above that the majority will be in our favour :thumbsup:

[Manwell Pablo]

There's only one right wing-back position and you get the feeling two of Stearman, Kaebi and Chambers are going to miss out bigtime under Megson.

Looks like Kaebi at the minute!

[BigGibbo]

There's only one right wing-back position and you get the feeling two of Stearman, Kaebi and Chambers are going to miss out bigtime under Megson.

With 3 at centre back we have the opportunity to blood Stearman into the right centre back which is meant to be his 1st choice position

[BigGibbo]

What's Stearman ever done to you??????

Sh@gged my mum why?

[Jimmy]

Defo 3-5-2 has been my choice formation since ive been here with the players available to us

check it out

----------------------------Fulop

-------------Kisnorbo ---N'Gotty---McAuley

kaebi----------------------------------------------Mattock

---------------Clemence-------Wesolowski

-------------------------- Hume

-----------------de vries---------Fryatt

Which puts me in a pickle because i think chambers is one of our best defenders but he hasn't got the attacking presence of Kaebi & isn't as strong as the three centre backs at centre back he can be on the bench as a closer

Bench:

Chambers

Sheehan

Kishishev

Ferreira

DJ Campbell

The bench covers every position & as you notice no keeper 'cos other than Fulop there all pretty sh!t & they rarely have to be subbed anyway + its fun when a player has to go in goal & usually works in your favour

dont expect to see MdV any time soon he and Megson have had a bust up

[Jimmy]

With 3 at centre back we have the opportunity to blood Stearman into the right centre back which is meant to be his 1st choice position

in his own words (on my facebook wall) he is a CB and playng at RCB would probably be the best way to get him into that position in competitive matches

[BigGibbo]

dont expect to see MdV any time soon he and Megson have had a bust up

Aye already why? we need a big man as we hoof it a fair bit & Megson teams tend to do that anyway + Cort is so far sh!t

[Jimmy]

Aye already why? we need a big man as we hoof it a fair bit & Megson teams tend to do that anyway + Cort is so far sh!t

dont know the details yet all i know is MdV was sent home early and Megson "doesn't like him"

[Jimmy]

It was a 532 with an overloaded defensive middle 3, this formation will probably bring more clean sheets but will not solve our goal scoring problem, second worse in the league?.

If we're going down this route we'll need a better midfield than we had last night. As minimum we need Clemence, Weso and a creative Izzett type of player.

As it stands you could select our future results from 0-1, 1-0 or 0-0, if we get lucky we could end up with more 1-0s in our favour.

cue Thrac tirade on why Andy King is that creative midfielder you mentioned ...

[Simi]

3-5-2 and 5-3-2 are essentially the same thing but can appear to be different depending on how the game is going. If our three central midfielders had been in control last night it would have been seen as being 3-5-2. The bottom line is that it's a wing-back system either way.

This 3-5-2/5-3-2 rubbish is like Thracian and his plan to play 4-2-4 instead of 4-4-2.

Exactly.

When we're attacking, when probably being the key word , the wing backs will go forward, it's just common sense. But like last night, when we were on the back often, we have to play 5-3-2 just to protect ourselves, especially when we're defending against massive amounts of pace on both wings.

[davieG]

3-5-2 and 5-3-2 are essentially the same thing but can appear to be different depending on how the game is going. If our three central midfielders had been in control last night it would have been seen as being 3-5-2. The bottom line is that it's a wing-back system either way.

This 3-5-2/5-3-2 rubbish is like Thracian and his plan to play 4-2-4 instead of 4-4-2.

They can be but will also be affected by they particular players depending whether they are defenders who can attack - Grayson or attackers who can defend Grayson. NB some subject to some poetic licence on the definitions of defenders/attackers.

[davieG]

From looking at the ratings thread, the jury is still out on Chambers in midfield. Kishishev, it appears, does not have the fitness. I don't know whther I agree on the creativity point though. If he's not a runner, why did we buy him?

I think GM will stick to 3-5-2 because the point of 3-5-2 is that it can be an attack minded formation, or it can easily be swapped to a 5-3-2.

Except last night was clearly 5-3-2 so it would be case of him changing to not sticking with 3-5-2

[Thracian]

3-5-2 and 5-3-2 are essentially the same thing but can appear to be different depending on how the game is going. If our three central midfielders had been in control last night it would have been seen as being 3-5-2. The bottom line is that it's a wing-back system either way.

This 3-5-2/5-3-2 rubbish is like Thracian and his plan to play 4-2-4 instead of 4-4-2.

All systems are flexible. But last night was highly biased towards 5-3-2. Mattock attempted a few sorties down the flank first half with largely inconsequential effect but remained fixed as a defender second half particularly when Young came on.

It was during that second half I thought Mattock was excellent. But never as an attacker. And, there was virtually no penetration down the opposite flank, nor any great attempt to penetrate.

The defence marked very tightly and moved in a well corordinated fashion. But they showed no ambition to do much more.

[Joe.]

I reckon 3-5-2 suits our style perfectly, but to get the most out of it we really do need to use proper wing backs. Last night Mattock and Stearman had great games defensively, but they don't offer enough going forward and it's asking a lot of them.

Hopefully if/when Kaebi makes his way into the side he could fill this role nicely on the right side, I don't know, we'll have to wait and see I guess. It just leaves us with a left sided player required.

[The People's Hero]

3-5-2 and 5-3-2 are essentially the same thing but can appear to be different depending on how the game is going. If our three central midfielders had been in control last night it would have been seen as being 3-5-2. The bottom line is that it's a wing-back system either way.This 3-5-2/5-3-2 rubbish is like Thracian and his plan to play 4-2-4 instead of 4-4-2.

That's exactly right and it's refreshing to hear the thoughts of someone who has a clue.

3-5-2 and 5-3-2 are essentially the same thing but can appear to be different depending on how the game is going. If our three central midfielders had been in control last night it would have been seen as being 3-5-2. The bottom line is that it's a wing-back system either way.This 3-5-2/5-3-2 rubbish is like Thracian and his plan to play 4-2-4 instead of 4-4-2.

That's exactly right and it's refreshing to hear the thoughts of someone who has a clue.

[Zingari]

That's exactly right and it's refreshing to hear the thoughts of someone who has a clue.That's exactly right and it's refreshing to hear the thoughts of someone who has a clue.

i'm seeing double

[BigGibbo]

That's exactly right and it's refreshing to hear the thoughts of someone who has a clue.

Ditto

[BigGibbo]

All systems are flexible. But last night was highly biased towards 5-3-2. Mattock attempted a few sorties down the flank first half with largely inconsequential effect but remained fixed as a defender second half particularly when Young came on.

It was during that second half I thought Mattock was excellent. But never as an attacker. And, there was virtually no penetration down the opposite flank, nor any great attempt to penetrate.

The defence marked very tightly and moved in a well corordinated fashion. But they showed no ambition to do much more.

Those being the key words there! Theres not a championship defender that wouldn't be pegged back more than usual with Youngs pace & ability or Agbonlahors & definately not at Mattocks age i think he had his priorities right & no more could of been expected of him last night