Vacamion Posted 2 November 2007 Posted 2 November 2007 I like being a bit older and being more concerned about - how much you can fit in the boot - whether the wife can park it - how much it costs to run - what its Euro-N-Cap rating is - how comfortable the seats are
Tabou Posted 2 November 2007 Posted 2 November 2007 20 years old + Decent Car + 3 Points + £30,000> miles per year + Being a Male = HURRENDOUS CAR INSURANCE!!!!! Its actually ridiculous!!!! However, I would like to make it known that the 3 points are not my fault. I saw the pig/camera van, slowed down to 39mph to be sure i was under the limit. However, I failed to realise it was actually a 30 mph limit...
Vacamion Posted 2 November 2007 Posted 2 November 2007 20 years old + Decent Car + 3 Points + £30,000> miles per year + Being a Male = HURRENDOUS CAR INSURANCE!!!!!Its actually ridiculous!!!! However, I would like to make it known that the 3 points are not my fault. I saw the pig/camera van, slowed down to 39mph to be sure i was under the limit. However, I failed to realise it was actually a 30 mph limit... The vast majority of motor accidents causing injury and death involve young male drivers. That's why it costs so much. Young blokes trying to get insured might as well cut off their nasties and apply to Sheila's wheels.
Tabou Posted 2 November 2007 Posted 2 November 2007 Agreed, young drivers are idiotic. However, I travel in excess of 30,000 miles p/a , never drive at more than the speed limits (yes, I know, 3 points, but i was mistaken..) drive EXCEPTIONALLY courteously , in my 3 years have never even come CLOSE to having a bump etc etc. Im all in favour of a driving test with an insurance underwriter in teh passanger seat. When I see how some of the so called "Safer" drivers (40y/o, married, 2.4 children , Saab etc) drive, it makes me angry at how I have to pay an exaggerated premium, when I am definantly less of a risk than other drivers. In essence, its not speed that kills, the Titanic was doing 12mph....
The People's Hero Posted 2 November 2007 Posted 2 November 2007 I've said it before and I'll say it again. Toyota MR2. Who needs a sodding boot and no, fu ck off, you can't have a lift, all the sh it which would usually be in the boot is on my passenger seat.
Vacamion Posted 2 November 2007 Posted 2 November 2007 Agreed, young drivers are idiotic. However, I travel in excess of 30,000 miles p/a , never drive at more than the speed limits (yes, I know, 3 points, but i was mistaken..) drive EXCEPTIONALLY courteously , in my 3 years have never even come CLOSE to having a bump etc etc. Im all in favour of a driving test with an insurance underwriter in teh passanger seat. When I see how some of the so called "Safer" drivers (40y/o, married, 2.4 children , Saab etc) drive, it makes me angry at how I have to pay an exaggerated premium, when I am definantly less of a risk than other drivers. In essence, its not speed that kills, the Titanic was doing 12mph.... Because a lot of accidents happen late at night when young males are giving a lift to their (often drunken) friends and showing off, I know of at least least one insurer that will give money off the insurance premium if you agree to "curfew" terms. The idea being that a young male is far less of a risk if he is not using his car as a nightclub taxi....
Kent Fox Posted 2 November 2007 Posted 2 November 2007 I think there should be a law whereby no new driver should be allowed to drive a car over 1.2 litre. That's plenty fast enough for the inexperienced. Learn how to control a car at lower speed before going mad. After a year, allow them to move to a 1.4 or 1.6. Then enjoy the next 40 years driving what you want, safer in the knowledge that they know how to handle a car. Handling a car is very different to driving one. Especially at speed / cornering. Not a fool-proof idea, but it might just save a few lives of young un's trying to drive like Lewis Hamilton. My first car was a 1.8 and I was a danger on the road, I don't mind admitting (now). Funnily enough, joining the BMRMC probably saved me from either killing myself or someone else. I got the opportunity to learn how to drive at speed and corner. Not big or clever, I know, but what you learn is brilliant. Back on topic, my only complaint about the Golf TDI is that it is overly noisy for a diesel engine these days at cold and when you're crawling. At speed, you don't really notice. Get a Golf. *cue mass slating of above post*
Tabou Posted 2 November 2007 Posted 2 November 2007 I think there should be a law whereby no new driver should be allowed to drive a car over 1.2 litre. That's plenty fast enough for the inexperienced. Learn how to control a car at lower speed before going mad. After a year, allow them to move to a 1.4 or 1.6. Then enjoy the next 40 years driving what you want, safer in the knowledge that they know how to handle a car. Handling a car is very different to driving one. Especially at speed / cornering.Not a fool-proof idea, but it might just save a few lives of young un's trying to drive like Lewis Hamilton. My first car was a 1.8 and I was a danger on the road, I don't mind admitting (now). Funnily enough, joining the BMRMC probably saved me from either killing myself or someone else. I got the opportunity to learn how to drive at speed and corner. Not big or clever, I know, but what you learn is brilliant. Back on topic, my only complaint about the Golf TDI is that it is overly noisy for a diesel engine these days at cold and when you're crawling. At speed, you don't really notice. Get a Golf. *cue mass slating of above post* Agreed, I totally know where your coming from. However, the soution to the problem isn't limiting what car young people drive. The government and parents and teacher come to think of it, should teach young adults to be a "Leader" and not a sheep, and how not to bow in to peer pressure. I was lucky, I have two fantastic parents who were fantastic in instigating rules and teaching me lessons about life etc. For me personally, curfew isn't an option. I have to do lots and lots of late night driving. One the "smaller engine front", good idea, but specifically to me, I do thousands of motorway hours, and, a 1.2/1,4 petrol isn't as economical (say, at 70mph) as a 1.5+ diesel. Also, the problem with restriction on engine size is, sometimes, having a bit of power/torque/grunt behind you can be safer. If your coming onto a motorway and some tosser in a lorry decides to make a go for it, having the power to get you out of a situation can be a good thing... Pro's and Con's to both sides of any arguement. Basic fact of the matter is, us young adults should have it drilled into us from a very early age that driving a car isn't a playstation game. If we ditch it at 70mph, you cannot just reset.... Infact, thinking how much I spend on petrol, I may just use public transport...HA!
Kent Fox Posted 2 November 2007 Posted 2 November 2007 Agreed, I totally know where your coming from. However, the soution to the problem isn't limiting what car young people drive. The government and parents and teacher come to think of it, should teach young adults to be a "Leader" and not a sheep, and how not to bow in to peer pressure. I was lucky, I have two fantastic parents who were fantastic in instigating rules and teaching me lessons about life etc.For me personally, curfew isn't an option. I have to do lots and lots of late night driving. One the "smaller engine front", good idea, but specifically to me, I do thousands of motorway hours, and, a 1.2/1,4 petrol isn't as economical (say, at 70mph) as a 1.5+ diesel. Also, the problem with restriction on engine size is, sometimes, having a bit of power/torque/grunt behind you can be safer. If your coming onto a motorway and some tosser in a lorry decides to make a go for it, having the power to get you out of a situation can be a good thing... Pro's and Con's to both sides of any arguement. Basic fact of the matter is, us young adults should have it drilled into us from a very early age that driving a car isn't a playstation game. If we ditch it at 70mph, you cannot just reset.... Infact, thinking how much I spend on petrol, I may just use public transport...HA! Couldn't agree more with that bit. You come across as sensible and if the law above was real, then you would suffer for it. But it's the countless other tw@ts that need saving. I don't mind them killing themselves - it's the fact that they invariably kill innocents that gets me. Seriously, I fear my for my daughter when she hits teenage years if she's hanging around with some lad(s) that are motor mentalists. Hopefully, I'll be as good a parent as yours are and she'll know better than to get into a car with a dickhead!
adam Posted 2 November 2007 Posted 2 November 2007 What about a good conditioned 106 GTI? Find one with low miles and your laughing. Road Legal go kart.
Maybes Posted 2 November 2007 Posted 2 November 2007 Agreed, young drivers are idiotic. However, I travel in excess of 30,000 miles p/a , never drive at more than the speed limits (yes, I know, 3 points, but i was mistaken..) drive EXCEPTIONALLY courteously , in my 3 years have never even come CLOSE to having a bump etc etc. Im all in favour of a driving test with an insurance underwriter in teh passanger seat. When I see how some of the so called "Safer" drivers (40y/o, married, 2.4 children , Saab etc) drive, it makes me angry at how I have to pay an exaggerated premium, when I am definantly less of a risk than other drivers. In essence, its not speed that kills, the Titanic was doing 12mph.... You can be the worlds best driver but if you meet the worlds worst....it still has the same outcome Best bit of advice my dad ever gave me
coale39 Posted 2 November 2007 Posted 2 November 2007 You can be the worlds best driver but if you meet the worlds worst....it still has the same outcome Best bit of advice my dad ever gave me Yeah some retard smacked into the back of me coming up to a roundabout. He was looking at the car behind him while travling at 20mph. I saw it in my rearview mirror, him looking behind. He said he "heard summat". Right. Car was still drivable but its the hassle of getting it mended. Not surprisingly he was in a white van...
Maybes Posted 2 November 2007 Posted 2 November 2007 Yeah some retard smacked into the back of me coming up to a roundabout. He was looking at the car behind him while travling at 20mph. I saw it in my rearview mirror, him looking behind. He said he "heard summat". Right. Car was still drivable but its the hassle of getting it mended. Not surprisingly he was in a white van... A young lad ran a red light a went into the side of me
Raj Posted 2 November 2007 Posted 2 November 2007 My first car was a Lancia Y10. Thats okay...mie was a Talbot Samba!!!!
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