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Perhaps for the "inbetween" fouls (if you know what I mean, between yellow and red :unsure: ) There should be a card whoch forces the team to substitute the offending player. If they have no subs left then he's off :dunno:

like I said there's pleny of options there if FIFA use their imaginations

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Good stuff, I agree with whoever said above that these things always tend to even themselves out over a season, I'm sure someone will be wrongly sent off against us sometime or a key decision will go against an opposition team wrongly this season.

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Exactly my point...

If we introduced them at football league level it would make the Sport different to that at Grass roots therefore inconsistant.

Quite right it's inconsistant, so what?

Rugby, cricket and tennis all use replays at the top level and not at grassroots. :frusty:

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Quite right it's inconsistant, so what?

Rugby, cricket and tennis all use replays at the top level and not at grassroots. :frusty:

IMO I dont like it.

You can have your opinion and I respect you for it, I dont want to see video replays as I believe it will ruin the game.

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IMO I dont like it.

You can have your opinion and I respect you for it, I dont want to see video replays as I believe it will ruin the game.

Well said, I was debating the logic not necessarily the emotion.

If we were seeing these incidences as isolated occurances that would be a different matter, however, poor refereeing and cheating tactics are the norm rather than the exception.

The rule changing is the problem........Losing a penalty is one thing but sending off massively changes the game and in the old days it almost never happened unless there was a serious offense.

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Well said, I was debating the logic not necessarily the emotion.

If we were seeing these incidences as isolated occurances that would be a different matter, however, poor refereeing and cheating tactics are the norm rather than the exception.

The rule changing is the problem........Losing a penalty is one thing but sending off massively changes the game and in the old days it almost never happened unless there was a serious offense.

For me, It comes down to the Referee Standards. Video replays wont improve that.

Make them all professional, ensure that at least twice a month they are going on refresher courses and conferences to continually improve thier knowledge and as has been mentioned, make them accountable. Clubs, Players and Managers suffer fines for poor misconduct and mistakes, so they should too.

Im on the fence with regards to them doing TV interviews after the game, it would only improve thier Public status and give them a celebrity image that I dont think would iron out the problems we have.

There should however be a Referee committee for each Division that the Ref should have to answer all bookings/charges to and again this needs to be consistant within the rules of the game to ensure that all incidents are treated with the same appropriate level of action. By seperating the committees into Divisions you will see consistancy within that division.

Its not rocket science to fix when you think about it logically but it does complicate things immensly when the FA are involved!!! :thumbup:

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why? for everything that goes wrong, something will come right for us... southampton for example, they get a dodgy penalty but had a goal ruled out earlier in the match. Over a whole season, things will go for us and things wont. But when matches i watch start becoming slow and stop - start every two minutes then it would seriously annoy me. Debates make football interesting, and yes it is exasperating being on the end of a contraversial win, but im sure we werent complaining when that southampton goal was disallowed? Football is going downhill enough with all these foreign imports and goal-line technology... why cant we keep football the ways its meant to be played, without all this additional crap?

Even were such a claim in anyway accurate, which it's not, how can an injustice for Leicester be cancelled out by another injustice? It simply demonstrates that there were two injustices and that there are lots of injustices when all added up.

Would you advocate an electronic "injustice board" at all games just to make sure that referees are made aware of their mistakes and can make decisions which balance out over the match? Fascinating thought. :whistle:

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Even were such a claim in anyway accurate, which it's not, how can an injustice for Leicester be cancelled out by another injustice? It simply demonstrates that there were two injustices and that there are lots of injustices when all added up.

Would you advocate an electronic "injustice board" at all games just to make sure that referees are made aware of their mistakes and can make decisions which balance out over the match? Fascinating thought. :whistle:

Don't be ridiculous.

It's part of the sodding game.

If some people had their way, the tables would finish exactly the same way every year.

Let's just revert it to a science and go through the motions shall we?

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Video refs is just pandering the the whims of the armchair supporter. As one of the poor sods freezing their metaphoricals off on Tuesday night, the last thing I would have wanted was having a third party watching the incident 20 times, just to make sure that they got it right. The video ref won't make a quick decision, as the comeback from an error is worse; if you watch the cricket or the rugby on TV, commentators will still disagree with the decision on the odd occasion, so it doesn't always get things right.

Even if video refs were introduced, I don't think that it will stop melees; players have no respect for the officials, and I doubt that players will behave once they've had their misdemeanours shown up. I can see what'll happen if a player is shown to have dived to try to win a peno, or whatever.

At the end of the day, as City Slicker says, we need better refs. We used to have refs that were respected around the world, referees made decisions without the aid of their linesmen, and without modern technology, and yet the standard of refereeing in this country is getting worse. My main bug bears are:

  • Obvious favouritism towards so called "fashionable clubs",
  • Inconsistent standards, even within the same game.
  • Referees referring to players not only by name, but by their christian names in a pally way. They only do it with the "stars". They should be calling them by number, as the disparity looks worse when the likes of Liverpool and Manure play lesser opposition. I also believe it is helping towards the lack of respect that players have for them.

The lack of respect that managers, players and fans have probably stems from the above.

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I'm not sure that refereeing has got significantly worse there are a number of factors which have worked against referees including:

The game is much faster now

TV replays magnify mistakes that where left as just memories in the past

Players do not respect referees

Players cheat more now, this cheating, in part has led to a sport that is now almost non-contact which again has made it harder for referees.

Football has become more of a business than a game making such decisions more focused and telling

The continuing re interpretation of the rules

As a spectator sport it has become more partisan with segregated crowds and abuse for the referee even opposing teams used to get applauded if they demonstrated some quality football - a rarity these days, the applause that is.

To name the key ones - these have all made the referees job harder.

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