Simi Posted 8 February 2008 Posted 8 February 2008 Make your opinions known...if you wish Done. I think I made myself pretty clear.
LeeCovFox Posted 8 February 2008 Posted 8 February 2008 I must have come across as a right miserable bastard. But thats okay. Because I am. Anyway. Fvck em.
Matt Posted 8 February 2008 Posted 8 February 2008 Had to laugh today at work at the Man Utd, Chelsea, Liverpool fans who incidently hardly ever or never have been to watch them play, not really caring about the issue, what about "proper", "true" fans clubs? People who travel up and down the country week in, week out to support there team? I myself am not a regular away game follower, Although I have been to a few this season and have got the taste for it, I as a big supporter and who's goes to games often understand the stupidity of this, for the majority big, top Premiership teams fans it'll be no different, they just watch it on tv, what do they care...and this is the view whoever came up with this idea has imo.
Ultra Posted 8 February 2008 Posted 8 February 2008 Adam Pearson the Derby chairman has just been on Sky Sports News and when asked about the fans - he just completely bypassed it and said "We're excited about opening a new market elsewhere".Seems the fans aren't in the thoughts of the people that matter. I guarantee he won't be saying that in six months' time, when the sheep are back in the lower leagues..
act smiley Posted 8 February 2008 Posted 8 February 2008 The FSF have started up a petition against this here. Hopefully it can get some numbers behind it.
Ultra Posted 8 February 2008 Posted 8 February 2008 I cant speak for any other country but as an Australian I disagree entierly, i think it will only be benificial for our local League what you have to realize is that Football isn't that big or popular in some countries i have plenty of mates that have never been to a game before but have been to plenty of AFL, cricket etc games. But they still know who Man U, Livepool, Arsenal and Chelsea are if one of these teams came to AUS it would sell out and get people like my mates to the game and bang they are hooked and then start going to our local A-league games. Hence haveing a tremendous flow on affect for the profile and attendance levels of our League. It has happend when the roos made the WC and then the A-League crowds increased you give us a prem game A-league attendances will increase even more suddenly football is challenging the likes of AFL for popularity. Excuse me, but despite what you may have been told, there are actually 20 clubs in the Premier League, not just four. Would your mates go to see Bolton v Fulham at the MCG? Thought not... Even if you are allocated a decent game or two, they're hardly going to make folk more likely to watch Tiatto and co battle it out in the A-league. And the AFF know this, which is why they're less than happy with the idea.
Daggers Posted 8 February 2008 Posted 8 February 2008 The whole thing smacks of the cultural imperialism that has managed to dick over most of the Third World...and the argument that the clubs need to cater for the 90% of their fanbase (opposed to the 10% who attend matches) is deeply offensive and insults my intelligence. Grr...I am going to be ranting about this into my beer all night.
LeeCovFox Posted 8 February 2008 Posted 8 February 2008 Just finished speaking to my dad online. This is the man who, despite being a Birmingham City fan, encouraged me to support Leicester, because it is where I was born. He even once gave me a cuff around the head when as a kid I told him I was switching to support Keegan's Newcastle side. "You can go to bed and have a think" were his words. I never really liked football until I was 9. But still he would take me to games, particularly all Midlands games against Birmingham, for his own reasons, and Wolves, for whom my uncle played, trying hard to encourage my involvement each time. Eventually I caught the bug. Some of my greatest memories come from attending football matches with my dad. Gary Coatsworth scoring at Molineux on the final day of 1993/94, securing a play off place for City, whilst the scoreboard confirmed Birmingham's relegation to what was then Division 2. Steve Claridge putting us into the Premier League with "that" goal. Julian Joachim scoring a last minute equaliser at Filbert Street against Grimsby as I was begging my dad not to make me leave the ground early to catch the bus. And many, many more. These are just some of the memories, all happy, because whatever the result, it was something we shared and which can never be taken away,we talked of in the phone conversation which we have just had. Football gave us these memories. Yet we both concluded the call on the same note. We have been betrayed. Football used us for all those years. It made us happy, but it didn't really care. We were just necessary at the time. For both of us, if this happens, it will be the final straw. There are only so many beatings we can take, even from a loved one. And even though we care, and even though it will sadden us, we are now, for the first time, we are seriously talking about leaving home.
Daggers Posted 8 February 2008 Posted 8 February 2008 Gold, the mendacious little shit, is on 5Live now
Guest Posted 8 February 2008 Posted 8 February 2008 Make your opinions known...if you wish Job Done. I had a few choice comments for 'em in the little box at the bottom of the page too
Uncle Albert Posted 8 February 2008 Author Posted 8 February 2008 Could the league title come down to a game in bleeding LA? Please tell me it cant, please.
Simi Posted 8 February 2008 Posted 8 February 2008 Could the league title come down to a game in bleeding LA? Please tell me it cant, please. No, it can't. Because it's in January. But it's still a ****ing disgrace.
Uncle Albert Posted 8 February 2008 Author Posted 8 February 2008 No, it can't.Because it's in January. But it's still a ****ing disgrace. Thanks mate My heart was pumping then... I would hate to see this happening especially when we are in "The Prem" in a few years time.
LeeCovFox Posted 8 February 2008 Posted 8 February 2008 Could the league title come down to a game in bleeding LA? Please tell me it cant, please. I'm afraid so. And because of the random nature of the fixtures generated, if two sides are vying to finish top, one could face, say Derby, and the other be faced with, for example, Aston Villa. So the winners could be crowned by virtue of having beaten Derby three times in a season as compared to their nearest challengers being able to gain only 7 of 9 available points from Aston Villa.
Simi Posted 8 February 2008 Posted 8 February 2008 How Scudamore keeps calling this "fair" is beyond me.
Uncle Albert Posted 8 February 2008 Author Posted 8 February 2008 I'm afraid so. And because of the random nature of the fixtures generated, if two sides are vying to finish top, one could face, say Derby, and the other be faced with, for example, Aston Villa. So the winners could be crowned by virtue of having beaten Derby three times in a season as compared to their nearest challengers being able to gain only 7 of 9 available points from Aston Villa. Ched said it cant... Make your minds up boys. My heart just got back to its normal rate
LeeCovFox Posted 8 February 2008 Posted 8 February 2008 No, it can't.Because it's in January. But it's still a ****ing disgrace. It doesn't matter when the game is played though. It is still an extra game. And the extra game will be looked upon as potentially decisive. It may not be the very last game, but because it is extra to the normal fixture list, the points will be very influential.
Joe. Posted 8 February 2008 Posted 8 February 2008 I've signed both petitions too. Should get plenty of interest that won't even be considered on both of them as well.
LeeCovFox Posted 8 February 2008 Posted 8 February 2008 Ched said it cant... Make your minds up boys. My heart just got back to its normal rate Basically we are both correct. I'm saying that the extra game could be ultimately decisive because it is an extra game and points are at stake which wouldn't be ordinarily. But Ched is saying that no side will be relegated, or no champion will be crowned immediately after the game because of when it takes place. But we are both on the same page. Its fvcking disgusting.
Simi Posted 8 February 2008 Posted 8 February 2008 It doesn't matter when the game is played though. It is still an extra game. And the extra game will be looked upon as potentially decisive. It may not be the very last game, but because it is extra to the normal fixture list, the points will be very influential. Without a doubt yeah, I'm just saying it wont be decisive if there is still something to play for on the final day of the normal season. But of course it will be influential. This decsion really seems to have united football fans. Reading reactions on SUSD and other forums, it seems as though something pro-active will come of this.
Uncle Albert Posted 8 February 2008 Author Posted 8 February 2008 Personally if they are to have these game's surely it would be easier to have them at the start of the season?
LeeCovFox Posted 8 February 2008 Posted 8 February 2008 Without a doubt yeah, I'm just saying it wont be decisive if there is still something to play for on the final day of the normal season. But of course it will be influential. This decsion really seems to have united football fans. Reading reactions on SUSD and other forums, it seems as though something pro-active will come of this. I hope so. I really am getting the feeling that for the first time in my lifetime, football fans are gearing up to stand up and make their voices heard in unison. And do you know what? I can't wait. This perversely, could result in the game being given back to the fans at some level. Because the rich bastards who are planning this may be forced to realise that without us, there is no them. However on the flipside, I'm also quite fearful though, that this initial wave of protest may be as far as it goes. I think the powers that be have been quite cute in their own way. Getting this news out now, ratifying it in the summer, and starting the freak show two years later when football fans have been brain washed into becoming receptive to the idea, or have simply tired of the fight. This could go either way.
Simi Posted 8 February 2008 Posted 8 February 2008 I hope so. I really am getting the feeling that for the first time in my lifetime, football fans are gearing up to stand up and make their voices heard in unison. And do you know what? I can't wait. Same here pal. It's been bubbling for quite a while and it seems many have been pissed on enough now. If only we'd took the attitude of the Germans and we wouldn't be anywhere near the state we're in now. Standupandsing is now in Germany with friends. He's gone to experience the German culture and gone to lower league and Bundesliga matches. Obviously with the safe standing areas. When he gets back and hears this, it will be a smack back to reality.
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