Uncle Albert Posted 8 February 2008 Author Posted 8 February 2008 Same here pal.It's been bubbling for quite a while and it seems many have been pissed on enough now. If only we'd took the attitude of the Germans and we wouldn't be anywhere near the state we're in now. Standupandsing is now in Germany with friends. He's gone to experience the German culture and gone to lower league and Bundesliga matches. Obviously with the safe standing areas. When he gets back and hears this, it will be a smack back to reality. German games can be class. My uncle lives in Germany and is a soldier for the British Army. So i have been to a few Monchengladbach games, I am here to tell you they are nothing like ours. The fans are better, but the quality of football isnt. Monchengladbach stadium is one of the best i have been to aswell.
Simi Posted 8 February 2008 Posted 8 February 2008 German games can be class. My uncle lives in Germany and is a soldier for the British Army. So i have been to a few Monchengladbach games, I am here to tell you they are nothing like ours. The fans are better, but the quality of football isnt. Monchengladbach stadium is one of the best i have been to aswell. Link They're in a completely different league.
Joe. Posted 8 February 2008 Posted 8 February 2008 LinkThey're in a completely different league. Just had a quick read through that SUSD Germany trip thread and that bloke's Hannover experience. Looks immense to be honest, like you say, totally different to anything you'd get here. Just a shame England is so health and safety conscious and obsessed with every penny they can grab from fans these days.
Uncle Albert Posted 8 February 2008 Author Posted 8 February 2008 LinkThey're in a completely different league. Thats disgusting. The Germans can get thier fans to do it, but we cant. I wish the Walkers could do that. The stewards would be loving it.
LeeCovFox Posted 8 February 2008 Posted 8 February 2008 LinkThey're in a completely different league. Pardon my ignorance, because I'm supportive of the idea of safe standing, but how is it that it is made safe compared to what we used to have here? Presumably its related to lower allocation of tickets and thus more space in these areas?
Simi Posted 8 February 2008 Posted 8 February 2008 Pardon my ignorance, because I'm supportive of the idea of safe standing, but how is it that it is made safe compared to what we used to have here? Presumably its related to lower allocation of tickets and thus more space in these areas? Seats are taken back and fastened in. Perfectly safe - no trouble whatsoever in Germany. They can be used as seats as well for matches in Europe.
LeeCovFox Posted 8 February 2008 Posted 8 February 2008 Seats are taken back and fastened in. Perfectly safe - no trouble whatsoever in Germany. They can be used as seats as well for matches in Europe. That sounds like common sense though. No wonder we don't have it here.
Simi Posted 8 February 2008 Posted 8 February 2008 That sounds like common sense though. No wonder we don't have it here. Exactly! <_<
Simi Posted 8 February 2008 Posted 8 February 2008 Thats disgusting. The Germans can get thier fans to do it, but we cant. I wish the Walkers could do that. The stewards would be loving it. No. It's not safe. Lots of people would be hurt. It would ruin the matchday experience for families. ...apparently.
Uncle Albert Posted 8 February 2008 Author Posted 8 February 2008 No.It's not safe. Lots of people would be hurt. It would ruin the matchday experience for families. ...apparently. Ow yes. We wouldn't want them bleeding cheap skates in the Family Stand to feel intimidated.
davieG Posted 8 February 2008 Posted 8 February 2008 I never thought I'd be saying this but Hurrah for Harry Rednapp & Gareth Southgate!! From Sky, nice to see they've taken a balanced cross section of opinion, Oh wait a minute but don't fans have something to do with football actually existing!!!!!!!!!!!!! The Premier League's proposal for an 'international round' of matches has divided opinion throughout the game. Here, skysports.com looks at the opinions of the managers, players, chairmen and owners on the ground-breaking proposal. For Arsene Wenger (Arsenal): "My instinctive reaction is not to be against innovation. To give access to these people for me is along the right lines. How to do it? I don't know." Roy Keane (Sunderland): "It doesn't matter where we are playing, we will always have a fair amount of fans home and away. Change is good sometimes." Steve Coppell (Reading): "It's good, it's innovative. We are the prime league in the world at the moment and I heard on the TV this morning that English Premier League football is seen in 200 countries across the world. I know there are problems with it - the idea of having seeding is crazy - but to take our domestic game to the world is a good idea." Gary Megson (Bolton): "I think it's great. I don't think it will be a huge problem and the benefits will far out-weigh the cons." Phil Neville (Everton defender): "I can understand what the traditionalists may say, but the Premier League is worldwide." Daniel Levy (Tottenham chairman): "We mustn't disguise the fact that all clubs have overseas fans, the Premier League is broadcast to 200 countries on a weekly basis and therefore it's not just the domestic fans we need to think about." David Gold (Birmingham co-owner): "I think it will be great for the Premier League. It's one game and gives the opportunity, particularly to smaller clubs, to take your brand and take it global and I find that very exciting." Bill Kenwright (Everton chairman): "We are the leading league in the world and have to look at ideas to ensure that English football keeps developing." Against Harry Redknapp (Portsmouth): "In the end we'll be playing on in England and the rest will be around the world. It will be like Harlem Globetrotters." Gareth Southgate (Middlesbrough): "Is it April Fool's Day? I find it highly unlikely it would happen. I can't see it being a realistic proposition." Robbie Savage (Derby midfielder): "From a player's point of view, it's daunting. It will certainly take its toll physically if we are flying halfway around the world and back before starting domestically again." On the fence Sir Alex Ferguson (Manchester United): "These issues should be discussed internally by clubs before they come to this position we are today but until I speak to David Gill again I have nothing more to say about it." Rafa Benitez (Liverpool): "I think it would work, but no team should gain advantage or disadvantage if the points were to go towards the final table." Roy Hodgson (Fulham): "I would have to have a clearer picture of what is behind this marketing idea - I would have to find out more about it. One extra game of football a year, as long as the calendar can be sorted out, that doesn't seem to be a deal-breaker." Steve Bruce (Wigan): "It wouldn't surprise me because we have got the best product. It is the best league in the world. We have to cherish it. It is a wonderful product. It wouldn't surprise me if one of the big clubs goes and plays somewhere else." Niall Quinn (Sunderland chairman): "We would not be comfortable if we felt one club would be getting more than others. It has to be right for our football club." John Williams (Blackburn chairman): "There are some logistical concerns and I'll sit down with Mark Hughes to see what he thinks. There are the fans as well."
Simi Posted 8 February 2008 Posted 8 February 2008 The FA said Play a 39th game Are you having a laugh You should be ashamed Or It's time to stop It's got out of control We're fighting back To reclaim the soul To the tune of this
Daggers Posted 8 February 2008 Posted 8 February 2008 I'm starting to bore me on this - I've just had a fifteen minute rant in the kitchen on the subject...the wife & dog looked deeply interested. I am so angry with the entire notion of the proposal that I realise I am entirely losing perspective. I hope my tequila drinking pre-match chums are equally as vexed by the issue otherwise I'm heading for a ranting cul-de-sac tomorrow.
Koke Posted 8 February 2008 Posted 8 February 2008 I don't wanna get promoted. This is the equivalent of nearly getting a sexy Anna Kournikova look-a-like bird in your bed, but then you find out that she in fact is a shemale, and luckily you escaped last minute. That's how I feel. Lets stay down here.
Bluemoon Posted 8 February 2008 Posted 8 February 2008 I'm starting to bore me on this - I've just had a fifteen minute rant in the kitchen on the subject...the wife & dog looked deeply interested.I am so angry with the entire notion of the proposal that I realise I am entirely losing perspective. I hope my tequila drinking pre-match chums are equally as vexed by the issue otherwise I'm heading for a ranting cul-de-sac tomorrow. you're boring me. what are you going to do about it??. Don't tell me, drink tequila and get angry. That should sort the problem. There comes a time dear Daggers when all that ranting starts to haunt you. Have you ever thought of reacting differently?
Daggers Posted 8 February 2008 Posted 8 February 2008 you're boring me. what are you going to do about it??. Don't tell me, drink tequila and get angry. That should sort the problem. There comes a time dear Daggers when all that ranting starts to haunt you. Have you ever thought of reacting differently? Twat.
Guest Posted 8 February 2008 Posted 8 February 2008 Personally if they are to have these game's surely it would be easier to have them at the start of the season? They do - they're called "pre-season friendlies", but according to Arsey Wenger that's not good enough for his side. Oh no. I hope my tequila drinking pre-match chums are equally as vexed by the issue otherwise I'm heading for a ranting cul-de-sac tomorrow. I haven't stopped ranting, and this is without any alcohol consumption at all!
Bluemoon Posted 8 February 2008 Posted 8 February 2008 Twat. Do you want salt with that? Good luck with the rants.
Ultra Posted 8 February 2008 Posted 8 February 2008 Robbie Savage (Derby midfielder): "From a player's point of view, it's daunting. It will certainly take its toll physically if we are flying halfway around the world and back before starting domestically again." Sav's delusion that he may in some way be affected by this scheme is one of the very few amusing aspects to it. However, the chairmen's weasel words don't impress me. They had the chance to speak out at the meeting and chose not to take it. Niall Quinn should perhaps know better, but clearly doesn't..
act smiley Posted 8 February 2008 Posted 8 February 2008 It does sound like Niall Quinn has been proven to be the naieve fool that we all took him for. Presumably his backers have talked him into it.
Daggers Posted 8 February 2008 Posted 8 February 2008 Do you want salt with that? Good luck with the rants. Don't read them then, numbnuts.
when_you're_smiling Posted 8 February 2008 Posted 8 February 2008 It's unlikely at the moment, more because of where we are more than anything....... But if the worst was to come to the worst with regards this playing abroad bollocks it's possible that someone might try and arrange a nationwide stay away from football one weekend or maybe two weekends (so everyone dosen't get one home crowd) as a protest against this crap. I've heard it mentioned as a possibility. Would people boycott a Leicester match, or in future season's if the club did decide to support it would you boycott the club in anyway to show your support for the anti-abroad movement. Just hypothetically really. I'm not sure what I can do because it would take me a lot to stay away from Leicester on purpose but I really feel strongly about this extra game bullshit.
Nationwider Posted 8 February 2008 Posted 8 February 2008 Roy Keane (Sunderland): "It doesn't matter where we are playing, we will always have a fair amount of fans home and away. Change is good sometimes." Prawn sandwich, anyone?
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