This Manager talk

[Kilworthfox]

I don't Want Billy Davies, Mike Newell, Nigel Worthington, Iain Dowie, Paul Ince, Darren Ferguson, Roberto Martinez, Mickey Adams, John Collins, Joe Royle, Jean Tigana, Glenn Hoddle, Kenny Jacket, Craig Levein, Sean O' Driscoll, or Ron Fooking Manager

We have a manager! He may not be perfect, but give the bloke a fair crack before we disregard yet ANOTHER manager! Has no-one learned that the constant change is bad for a football club? The club does badly AGAIN! so what do the fans want? NEW MANAGER???????????? Well goes to show how much Milan and other chairmen should listen to the masses.

Pleat had to go

Adams had to go

Levein had to go

Kelly had to go

Worthington had to go

Allen had to go, although I did not think it at the time

Remember The Supporters called for O'Neill's head after only a few games, it took him time to get it right! I am in no way suggesting that Holloway has done everything right, it would be as ridiculous as suggesting everything he does is wrong, but maybe we will reap the rewards of stability after we beat Stoke on Sunday and shove other spiteful fans ill timed words down their throats :fox:

[volpeazzurro]

I don't Want Billy Davies, Mike Newell, Nigel Worthington, Iain Dowie, Paul Ince, Darren Ferguson, Roberto Martinez, Mickey Adams, John Collins, Joe Royle, Jean Tigana, Glenn Hoddle, Kenny Jacket, Craig Levein, Sean O' Driscoll, or Ron Fooking Manager

We have a manager! He may not be perfect, but give the bloke a fair crack before we disregard yet ANOTHER manager! Has no-one learned that the constant change is bad for a football club? The club does badly AGAIN! so what do the fans want? NEW MANAGER???????????? Well goes to show how much Milan and other chairmen should listen to the masses.

Pleat had to go

Adams had to go

Levein had to go

Kelly had to go

Worthington had to go

Allen had to go, although I did not think it at the time

Remember The Supporters called for O'Neill's head after only a few games, it took him time to get it right! I am in no way suggesting that Holloway has done everything right, it would be as ridiculous as suggesting everything he does is wrong, but maybe we will reap the rewards of stability after we beat Stoke on Sunday and shove other spiteful fans ill timed words down their throats :fox:

Stability does not equal success. Ollie has had more than a fair crack of the whip both in terms of time and financial support, his statistics don't lie, where have you been? Constant changing of the team lin-up, constant changing of tactics, constant playing people out of position when there are better options, constant poor ill thought out substitutions. On what grounds do you think he can improve? Such 'stability' will take us down to the Vauxhall Conference and oblivion, wake up, loyalty isn't everything. Burying your head in the sand bleating 'stability' won't work.

[davieG]

Not another Ollie must stay thread!

[Kilworthfox]

I listen to the radio, and have formed my accurate opinion from John Barber and Steve Welsh, where have you been? trying to learn how to post on here in my quotes?

[Kilworthfox]

Not another Ollie must stay thread!

Just because you don't agree does not mean it is boring, and there are more threads about how he must go so I think I will keep my frustrations in and not yawn in all of those

[Webbo]

Basically, I agree with Kilworth.

[volpeazzurro]

I listen to the radio, and have formed my accurate opinion from John Barber and Steve Welsh, where have you been? trying to learn how to post on here in my quotes?

Do you really honestly think either Barber or Walsh would say anything too controvesial on the radio in public? As for your quotes, do you walk round your garden shouting get orf my land! and burst childrens balls that dare to get kicked over your fence?

[clazkel]

I don't Want Billy Davies, Mike Newell, Nigel Worthington, Iain Dowie, Paul Ince, Darren Ferguson, Roberto Martinez, Mickey Adams, John Collins, Joe Royle, Jean Tigana, Glenn Hoddle, Kenny Jacket, Craig Levein, Sean O' Driscoll, or Ron Fooking Manager

We have a manager! He may not be perfect, but give the bloke a fair crack before we disregard yet ANOTHER manager! Has no-one learned that the constant change is bad for a football club? The club does badly AGAIN! so what do the fans want? NEW MANAGER???????????? Well goes to show how much Milan and other chairmen should listen to the masses.

Pleat had to go

Adams had to go

Levein had to go

Kelly had to go

Worthington had to go

Allen had to go, although I did not think it at the time

Remember The Supporters called for O'Neill's head after only a few games, it took him time to get it right! I am in no way suggesting that Holloway has done everything right, it would be as ridiculous as suggesting everything he does is wrong, but maybe we will reap the rewards of stability after we beat Stoke on Sunday and shove other spiteful fans ill timed words down their throats :fox:

The fans did call for O'Neill's head and smashed windows at the ground and they were wrong, and Holloway may need more time to prove himself and changing manager may not help the club but what worries me is his tactics and substitutions. Imo he has made so many mistakes with the subs he has brought on and where he plays players and i can't see him changing that. Maybe he wont go for experience if we are still up next season and he will give some of the youngsters the chance they deserve. The other thing that worries me about Ollie is after the game he never blames himself he always blames the players and i think sometimes he should take a look at himself and where he is playing players. Also i didn't like it when he came to Leicester and criticised the players we already had at the club by saying they aren't good enough, personally i think we were good enough he just had to get the best out of them and maybe add afew players to the squad.

I do agree that he should be given more time though and he is passionate and seems a decent bloke, but i do worry if he is still with us next season the tactics he will play

[renards]

I don't Want Billy Davies, Mike Newell, Nigel Worthington, Iain Dowie, Paul Ince, Darren Ferguson, Roberto Martinez, Mickey Adams, John Collins, Joe Royle, Jean Tigana, Glenn Hoddle, Kenny Jacket, Craig Levein, Sean O' Driscoll, or Ron Fooking Manager

We have a manager! He may not be perfect, but give the bloke a fair crack before we disregard yet ANOTHER manager! Has no-one learned that the constant change is bad for a football club? The club does badly AGAIN! so what do the fans want? NEW MANAGER???????????? Well goes to show how much Milan and other chairmen should listen to the masses.

Pleat had to go

Adams had to go

Levein had to go

Kelly had to go

Worthington had to go

Allen had to go, although I did not think it at the time

Remember The Supporters called for O'Neill's head after only a few games, it took him time to get it right! I am in no way suggesting that Holloway has done everything right, it would be as ridiculous as suggesting everything he does is wrong, but maybe we will reap the rewards of stability after we beat Stoke on Sunday and shove other spiteful fans ill timed words down their throats :fox:

Your entitled to your opinion.

Although I disagree with most of it.

Hollow has no pedigree. ' if you haven't got socks you can't pull them up.

The man is clueless, even if we beat Stoke

[Daggers]

Basically, I agree with Kilworth.

I agree with him in C++, Java and LISP

[Kilworthfox]

The fans did call for O'Neill's head and smashed windows at the ground and they were wrong, and Holloway may need more time to prove himself and changing manager may not help the club but what worries me is his tactics and substitutions. Imo he has made so many mistakes with the subs he has brought on and where he plays players and i can't see him changing that. Maybe he wont go for experience if we are still up next season and he will give some of the youngsters the chance they deserve. The other thing that worries me about Ollie is after the game he never blames himself he always blames the players and i think sometimes he should take a look at himself and where he is playing players. Also i didn't like it when he came to Leicester and criticised the players we already had at the club by saying they aren't good enough, personally i think we were good enough he just had to get the best out of them and maybe add afew players to the squad.

I do agree that he should be given more time though, but i do worry if he is still with us next season what players he will play where

I like your thinking behind your doubts, at least you have pin pointed why you believe where he is going wrong, unlike many on here who just say he is an idiot and has to go you have given your reasons.

I have said that he is not always correct, but deserves more time.

On the players I believe that Allen and Holloway are correct, as the previous failures in the leauge I believe tells us. We need better players, we need more fight and desire to play for us. We must stay up and me should give Holloway a chance.

[Kilworthfox]

I agree with him in C++, Java and LISP

Bloody hell speak English! I know it's not easy when your surrounded by Brummays calling every one spud and yamming all over the shop, but do try to set an example whilst representing Leicester David

[clazkel]

I like your thinking behind your doubts, at least you have pin pointed why you believe where he is going wrong, unlike many on here who just say he is an idiot and has to go you have given your reasons.

I have said that he is not always correct, but deserves more time.

On the players I believe that Allen and Holloway are correct, as the previous failures in the leauge I believe tells us. We need better players, we need more fight and desire to play for us. We must stay up and me should give Holloway a chance.

The only thing i would say is that i think if Ollie didn't play Howard upfront and played Hume and Fryatt or Hayles and stuck with them rather than sticking with Howard i don't think we would be in the position we are in, i don't think it works with Howard upfront as it encourages us to knock long balls, yet we have players who are capable of playing good football. Don't get me wrong Howard is a decent player but i don't think it works for us. I'm sure Ollie will play Howard upfront on Sat (and i hope he plays well and gets another hat trick like west brom) but i hope he plays Hume and Fryatt or Hayles as its more of an attacking team. Hume is our best striker and he needs someone to support him and link up with him, as on Sat Hume was getting frustrated as he wasn't getting support as Howard seemed to be playing more of a midfield role at times (that must've been Ollies instructions tho). Howard will probably score to keep us up by scoring against Stoke and he will be my hero!

[Kilworthfox]

The only thing i would say is that i think if Ollie didn't play Howard upfront and played Hume and Fryatt or Hayles and stuck with them rather than sticking with Howard i don't think we would be in the position we are in, i don't think it works with Howard upfront as it encourages us to knock long balls, yet we have players who are capable of playing good football. Don't get me wrong Howard is a decent player but i don't think it works for us. I'm sure Ollie will play Howard upfront on Sat (and i hope he plays well and gets another hat trick like west brom) but i hope he plays Hume and Fryatt or Hayles as its more of an attacking team. Hume is our best striker and he needs someone to support him and link up with him, as on Sat Hume was getting frustrated as he wasn't getting support as Howard seemed to be playing more of a midfield role at times (that must've been Ollies instructions tho). Howard will probably score to keep us up by scoring against Stoke and he will be my hero!

Lets all hope so

Hue is our best striker, he has been top scorer in the past 3 seasons now? (ish?) Hume has really good desire levels and won't give up when it's tough going. Fryatt has missed sitter this year and not just a few times! I do rate him as a player but he somehow seems to have lost that nack of scoring which he had when he first joined. Howard is a good player in this division, we somehow are not utilising him effectively.

Fook knows lets just hope they give everything on Sunday?

[Cheese Me]

I don't Want Billy Davies, Mike Newell, Nigel Worthington, Iain Dowie, Paul Ince, Darren Ferguson, Roberto Martinez, Mickey Adams, John Collins, Joe Royle, Jean Tigana, Glenn Hoddle, Kenny Jacket, Craig Levein, Sean O' Driscoll, or Ron Fooking Manager

We have a manager! He may not be perfect, but give the bloke a fair crack before we disregard yet ANOTHER manager! Has no-one learned that the constant change is bad for a football club? The club does badly AGAIN! so what do the fans want? NEW MANAGER???????????? Well goes to show how much Milan and other chairmen should listen to the masses.

Pleat had to go

Adams had to go

Levein had to go

Kelly had to go

Worthington had to go

Allen had to go, although I did not think it at the time

Remember The Supporters called for O'Neill's head after only a few games, it took him time to get it right! I am in no way suggesting that Holloway has done everything right, it would be as ridiculous as suggesting everything he does is wrong, but maybe we will reap the rewards of stability after we beat Stoke on Sunday and shove other spiteful fans ill timed words down their throats :fox:

No he didn't, looking back we were in a much better state then.

Otherwise spot on, changing managers all the time means no time for continuity. Holloway certainly isn't perfect but another kneejerk reaction will do us no good whatsoever

[Kilworthfox]

No he didn't, looking back we were in a much better state then.

Otherwise spot on, changing managers all the time means no time for continuity. Holloway certainly isn't perfect but another kneejerk reaction will do us no good whatsoever

Matter of opinion as always, I thought we had a side similar we took up 2 years previous, anyway matter of opinion.

[Chimp]

Hume is our best striker, he has been top scorer in the past 3 seasons now? (ish?) Hume has really good desire levels and won't give up when it's tough going.

So you condone him being played on the wing for most of the season?

[Thracian]

The fans did call for O'Neill's head and smashed windows at the ground and they were wrong, and Holloway may need more time to prove himself and changing manager may not help the club but what worries me is his tactics and substitutions. Imo he has made so many mistakes with the subs he has brought on and where he plays players and i can't see him changing that. Maybe he wont go for experience if we are still up next season and he will give some of the youngsters the chance they deserve. The other thing that worries me about Ollie is after the game he never blames himself he always blames the players and i think sometimes he should take a look at himself and where he is playing players. Also i didn't like it when he came to Leicester and criticised the players we already had at the club by saying they aren't good enough, personally i think we were good enough he just had to get the best out of them and maybe add afew players to the squad.

I do agree that he should be given more time though and he is passionate and seems a decent bloke, but i do worry if he is still with us next season the tactics he will play

Mentioning MON and Holloway in the same breath almost amounts to sacrilege in my eyes. I see no comparison whatsoever.

It is far more than just results that worries me about Holloway and whether he wins on Sunday or not won't make the slightest difference to that.

[Chimp]

Otherwise spot on, changing managers all the time means no time for continuity. Holloway certainly isn't perfect but another kneejerk reaction will do us no good whatsoever

Is it a kneejerk reaction after 6 months, 35 games, 8 or so players brought in and over 3 million spent on transfer fees? I don't think so.

[Cheese Me]

Is it a kneejerk reaction after 6 months, 35 games, 8 or so players brought in and over 3 million spent on transfer fees? I don't think so.

Kneejerk is probably an emotive term.

What I really mean is we should give someone time to develop a team, squad, mentality, etc and it takes time to do that and really make a club your own. Sacking Holloway would just set us back again - plus who in their raight mind would come to be our 7th manager in 14 months or whatever it is???

[act smiley]

I agree with him in C++, Java and LISP

mapcar(agree '(Disco, Webbo)) I believe? I hate LISP, bloody degree-score-buggering thing that it is

[Kilworthfox]

So you condone him being played on the wing for most of the season?

Hmmmm an interesting 1!

I can see the reasons for doing so! He played at right wing vs Watford and scored a cracker in a great team performance when the players knew he was gone. Not just Holloway has played him there.

He can play there because:

He has the tallent

He has the ability

He has the tricks

He has the desire

He has the work rate

The reason for playing him there was that vs Blackpool we played Wesolowski there and the poor planning in pre season left us with little option. Holloway sorted this problem in January with signing the Huns, Etuhu and then Hendrie and Bell. Hendrie however got injured along with Etuhu. he had to play someone at left mid Bell so it was either Hume or Chambers or Lazsko. I personally rate Lazsko and wish he could acclimatise himself quicker but that is life, and football i suppose.

I don't like seeing him there but can understand it to a point when we are short as he can temporarily fill a hole

[clazkel]

Mentioning MON and Holloway in the same breath almost amounts to sacrilege in my eyes. I see no comparison whatsoever.

It is far more than just results that worries me about Holloway.

I am not comparing them as i know there is no comparison but i thought it was unfair the way MON was treated at first at Leicester. Ollie has had great support from the fans seeing as the results we have been getting, maybe support that he hasn't deserved!

And i agree there are more than just results that are worrying about Holloway.

[Daggers]

Kneejerk is probably an emotive term.

Seeing as I have used it around 28 times in the last two days - I disagree.

66% wanted IH to stay two weeks ago, 75% last week (after Barnsley) and now 40something%...what's a better way to describe such brainless fluctuations?

People who have always held an opinon, irrespective if it doesn't agree with mine, fair enough - kudos to them.

[act smiley]

The thing is, I think a lot of people would be of the opinion "get rid only if we go down" and those results may well be down to the confidence of those people in our ability to stay up.