Lazza Posted 28 March 2005 Posted 28 March 2005 What does it take for young Wesolowski to get a run in the first team ? The lad has the ability and the class to play in the top grade and has the determination to more than match it with more experienced players. What has CL got to lose by promoting some young talented players. I wonder what CL has in mind for youngsters like Wesolowski. Does he want to bring through what little talent we have in the lower grades and be known as a manager who can foster talent or does he want to be known as a manager who only looks forward to the next match. Our success at this club depends on the future of young players like Wesolowski. The last thing we need is our talent being frustrated by a manager who has no vision. Give the talented youngsters a go. They can't go much worse than some of our failed so-called 'stars'.
Steven Posted 28 March 2005 Posted 28 March 2005 Good points but isn't this thread similar. http://www.foxestalk.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=4974
step Posted 28 March 2005 Posted 28 March 2005 I dont think you can justify saying CL is not a visionary.
Jonbluefox9 Posted 28 March 2005 Posted 28 March 2005 I was talking to a relative of one of the youngsters at the club and he said that our academy has had so many cut backs over the last few years due to financial difficulties that it needs a long look at sooner rather than later. Levein is looking at the academy in the summer and seeing how it's structure can be improved but according to this bloke we've lost entire age groups over the last few years due to administration and not being able to stay up last season. It's probable that we'll have a lot of under 18s brought in on trials to plug the gaps in the youth teams in the next few years.
Foxes_Trust Posted 28 March 2005 Posted 28 March 2005 I was talking to a relative of one of the youngsters at the club and he said that our academy has had so many cut backs over the last few years due to financial difficulties that it needs a long look at sooner rather than later. Levein is looking at the academy in the summer and seeing how it's structure can be improved but according to this bloke we've lost entire age groups over the last few years due to administration and not being able to stay up last season. It's probable that we'll have a lot of under 18s brought in on trials to plug the gaps in the youth teams in the next few years. 84300[/snapback] Yes Craig said at the Trust AGM that they would need to bring in some youngsters released from other clubs (Premiership perhaps) to fill the gap in the 18-19yo age range as there was a lack of quality in our squad currently
Lazza Posted 28 March 2005 Author Posted 28 March 2005 I dont think you can justify saying CL is not a visionary. 84249[/snapback] Why not ? Tell me what his vision is for GOOD youngsters like Wesolowski ? Have we seen Weso on the bench ? Does he train with the firsts ? A fine youngster like him should have at least been on the bench early in the New Year. It's a bit late to talk about giving these youngsters a chance now that the season is almost over. Does CL even bother to chat with any of these youngsters after a game ? Sir Alex had vision at Man U and developed a Cups winning side by nurturing talent. He built relationships with players and made good footballers out of them. CL likes to think he's another Martin O'Neill but he won't be until he can have his players wanting to play for HIM and that includes players right down to Academy level. It's one thing to dream about what you would like to achieve, it's another to be capable of implementing it. I think CL is just a dreamer.
Stuliasz Posted 28 March 2005 Posted 28 March 2005 A mate of mine spoke to Richard Stearman in Loughborough on Saturday night, and the reason Levein isn't giving a chance to the youngsters at the moment is because of the predicament we are in. Apparently once we are safe he has guaranteed Stearman a run in the team. I for one can understand his mentality in not throwing in the youngsters while we are in such a precarious position.
Lazza Posted 28 March 2005 Author Posted 28 March 2005 A mate of mine spoke to Richard Stearman in Loughborough on Saturday night, and the reason Levein isn't giving a chance to the youngsters at the moment is because of the predicament we are in. Apparently once we are safe he has guaranteed Stearman a run in the team. I for one can understand his mentality in not throwing in the youngsters while we are in such a precarious position. 84400[/snapback] That's now, but why weren't they brought through early in the New Year when the season was only half over and some of the older players were feeling a bit weary. Some of these youngsters would be winning games for us now. CL MUST BUILD RELATIONSHIPS WITH GOOD YOUNGSTERS LIKE WESO AND HAVE THEM WANT TO PLAY FOR HIM. That's how you build a Cup winning side of the future. Anyway, what's wrong with young Weso ? Does Levein think he's got the pox ?
Steven Posted 28 March 2005 Posted 28 March 2005 Hasn't/wasn't Wesolowski (been) injured when he went down under to play for Australia or some time shortly after that?
Lazza Posted 28 March 2005 Author Posted 28 March 2005 Hasn't/wasn't Wesolowski (been) injured when he went down under to play for Australia or some time shortly after that? 84407[/snapback] Don't think he was injured then. Apparently the side he played in won in a record for any Australian team 19-0, albeit against weak opposition. All reports were that Wesolowski orchestrated many of the goals and scored a few himself. Anyway, he certainly wasn't injured around New Year. As I said, though, does Levein think he's got the pox ? Does Levein even know who he is ?
Louise Posted 28 March 2005 Posted 28 March 2005 Hasn't/wasn't Wesolowski (been) injured when he went down under to play for Australia or some time shortly after that? 84407[/snapback] Dawson is injured at the moment too isn't he? People might have complaints about how the youngsters are treated, but surely it's better now that what it was. Now they train with the first team frequently, CL watches them play, he's acknowledged Dawson and has given Stearman two full games... Personally I agree with him that at the moment it would be a very difficult time to put the reserve/youth players in, but if we win our next two games I would imagine 4/5 at least will be given a go before the end of the season.
Steven Posted 28 March 2005 Posted 28 March 2005 Hasn't/wasn't Wesolowski (been) injured when he went down under to play for Australia or some time shortly after that? 84407[/snapback] Dawson is injured at the moment too isn't he? People might have complaints about how the youngsters are treated, but surely it's better now that what it was. Now they train with the first team frequently, CL watches them play, he's acknowledged Dawson and has given Stearman two full games... Personally I agree with him that at the moment it would be a very difficult time to put the reserve/youth players in, but if we win our next two games I would imagine 4/5 at least will be given a go before the end of the season. 84423[/snapback] Agree with this. Under CL if any of the players have "it", then I think they have much more chance of playing in the First team than they would have under MA and many other managers.
Chandler Posted 29 March 2005 Posted 29 March 2005 I share Lazza's appreciation of young Weso. But he's double wrapped in cotton wool at the moment and for good reason. Whilst he is probably the most talented youngster we've probably had on our books since a certain injury prone starlet left for Sunderland, he is not ready yet to handle the physical demands of grown up footer. Bring 'em on too early and you'll wreck their careers. If he had been pumped up with health 'supplements' like one or two England prodigies seem to have been then Weso might already have been thrown him into the fray. Barring accidents, I should think we will see him on the bench midway through next season.
Lazza Posted 29 March 2005 Author Posted 29 March 2005 I share Lazza's appreciation of young Weso. But he's double wrapped in cotton wool at the moment and for good reason. Whilst he is probably the most talented youngster we've probably had on our books since a certain injury prone starlet left for Sunderland, he is not ready yet to handle the physical demands of grown up footer. Bring 'em on too early and you'll wreck their careers. If he had been pumped up with health 'supplements' like one or two England prodigies seem to have been then Weso might already have been thrown him into the fray. Barring accidents, I should think we will see him on the bench midway through next season. 84450[/snapback] Young Weso has the strength, balance, timing, determination, discipline, ability to read a game and, most importantly, will to win. HE IS READY !
Chandler Posted 29 March 2005 Posted 29 March 2005 I share Lazza's appreciation of young Weso. But he's double wrapped in cotton wool at the moment and for good reason. Whilst he is probably the most talented youngster we've probably had on our books since a certain injury prone starlet left for Sunderland, he is not ready yet to handle the physical demands of grown up footer. Bring 'em on too early and you'll wreck their careers. If he had been pumped up with health 'supplements' like one or two England prodigies seem to have been then Weso might already have been thrown him into the fray. Barring accidents, I should think we will see him on the bench midway through next season. 84450[/snapback] Young Weso has the strength, balance, timing, determination, discipline, ability to read a game and, most importantly, will to win. HE IS READY ! 84458[/snapback] I'd like to see him too Lazza. You never know. Levein might bring him on as a sub against the Pilgrims last game of the season. Roy of the Rovers stuff. 0-2 with five minutes to go and young Weso scores a hat-trick to beat the drop. Then all the sheep on here say what a great job Levein did in the battle against relegation. Refusing to admit, of course, that relegation had never appeared on the radar until Levein took the controls... PS By the way, in your long last of accolades, you forgot to mention SKILL (a bit of a useful thing to have).
Lazza Posted 29 March 2005 Author Posted 29 March 2005 Young Weso has the strength, balance, timing, determination, discipline, ability to read a game and, most importantly, will to win. HE IS READY ! 84458[/snapback] I'd like to see him too Lazza. You never know. Levein might bring him on as a sub against the Pilgrims last game of the season. Roy of the Rovers stuff. 0-2 with five minutes to go and young Weso scores a hat-trick to beat the drop. Then all the sheep on here say what a great job Levein did in the battle against relegation. Refusing to admit, of course, that relegation had never appeared on the radar until Levein took the controls... PS By the way, in your long last of accolades, you forgot to mention SKILL (a bit of a useful thing to have). 84463[/snapback] Yes, I forgot - young Weso also has SKILL and CLASS ! BTW, What the players do on the field make a manager good. It's the manager's job to motivate those players to get them to play to the best of their ability and beyond if possible. I'm not so sure Levein has the communication skills to do it.
kenny Posted 29 March 2005 Posted 29 March 2005 Donald Duck me Chandler, that was nearly a sensible conversation!! Are you feeling ok? Im sure CL will bring on wesolowski when he is good and ready. Fortunately it will be sooner than MA would have done as he will not be 35 for a while yet!
Chandler Posted 29 March 2005 Posted 29 March 2005 Young Weso has the strength, balance, timing, determination, discipline, ability to read a game and, most importantly, will to win. HE IS READY ! 84458[/snapback] I'd like to see him too Lazza. You never know. Levein might bring him on as a sub against the Pilgrims last game of the season. Roy of the Rovers stuff. 0-2 with five minutes to go and young Weso scores a hat-trick to beat the drop. Then all the sheep on here say what a great job Levein did in the battle against relegation. Refusing to admit, of course, that relegation had never appeared on the radar until Levein took the controls... PS By the way, in your long last of accolades, you forgot to mention SKILL (a bit of a useful thing to have). 84463[/snapback] Yes, I forgot - young Weso also has SKILL and CLASS ! BTW, What the players do on the field make a manager good. It's the manager's job to motivate those players to get them to play to the best of their ability and beyond if possible. I'm not so sure Levein has the communication skills to do it. 84468[/snapback] Out of the mouths of babes...
stez Posted 29 March 2005 Posted 29 March 2005 What does it take for young Wesolowski to get a run in the first team ? The lad has the ability and the class to play in the top grade and has the determination to more than match it with more experienced players. What has CL got to lose by promoting some young talented players. I wonder what CL has in mind for youngsters like Wesolowski. Does he want to bring through what little talent we have in the lower grades and be known as a manager who can foster talent or does he want to be known as a manager who only looks forward to the next match. Our success at this club depends on the future of young players like Wesolowski. The last thing we need is our talent being frustrated by a manager who has no vision. Give the talented youngsters a go. They can't go much worse than some of our failed so-called 'stars'. 84196[/snapback] I dont think you can justify saying CL is not a visionary. 84249[/snapback] Why not ? Tell me what his vision is for GOOD youngsters like Wesolowski ? Have we seen Weso on the bench ? Does he train with the firsts ? A fine youngster like him should have at least been on the bench early in the New Year. It's a bit late to talk about giving these youngsters a chance now that the season is almost over. Does CL even bother to chat with any of these youngsters after a game ? Sir Alex had vision at Man U and developed a Cups winning side by nurturing talent. He built relationships with players and made good footballers out of them. CL likes to think he's another Martin O'Neill but he won't be until he can have his players wanting to play for HIM and that includes players right down to Academy level. It's one thing to dream about what you would like to achieve, it's another to be capable of implementing it. I think CL is just a dreamer. 84397[/snapback] A mate of mine spoke to Richard Stearman in Loughborough on Saturday night, and the reason Levein isn't giving a chance to the youngsters at the moment is because of the predicament we are in. Apparently once we are safe he has guaranteed Stearman a run in the team. I for one can understand his mentality in not throwing in the youngsters while we are in such a precarious position. 84400[/snapback] That's now, but why weren't they brought through early in the New Year when the season was only half over and some of the older players were feeling a bit weary. Some of these youngsters would be winning games for us now. CL MUST BUILD RELATIONSHIPS WITH GOOD YOUNGSTERS LIKE WESO AND HAVE THEM WANT TO PLAY FOR HIM. That's how you build a Cup winning side of the future. Anyway, what's wrong with young Weso ? Does Levein think he's got the pox ? 84406[/snapback] Hasn't/wasn't Wesolowski (been) injured when he went down under to play for Australia or some time shortly after that?  84407[/snapback] Don't think he was injured then. Apparently the side he played in won in a record for any Australian team 19-0, albeit against weak opposition. All reports were that Wesolowski orchestrated many of the goals and scored a few himself. Anyway, he certainly wasn't injured around New Year. As I said, though, does Levein think he's got the pox ? Does Levein even know who he is ? 84419[/snapback] I share Lazza's appreciation of young Weso. But he's double wrapped in cotton wool at the moment and for good reason. Whilst he is probably the most talented youngster we've probably had on our books since a certain injury prone starlet left for Sunderland, he is not ready yet to handle the physical demands of grown up footer. Bring 'em on too early and you'll wreck their careers. If he had been pumped up with health 'supplements' like one or two England prodigies seem to have been then Weso might already have been thrown him into the fray. Barring accidents, I should think we will see him on the bench midway through next season. 84450[/snapback] Young Weso has the strength, balance, timing, determination, discipline, ability to read a game and, most importantly, will to win. HE IS READY ! 84458[/snapback] Young Weso has the strength, balance, timing, determination, discipline, ability to read a game and, most importantly, will to win. HE IS READY ! 84458[/snapback] I'd like to see him too Lazza. You never know. Levein might bring him on as a sub against the Pilgrims last game of the season. Roy of the Rovers stuff. 0-2 with five minutes to go and young Weso scores a hat-trick to beat the drop. Then all the sheep on here say what a great job Levein did in the battle against relegation. Refusing to admit, of course, that relegation had never appeared on the radar until Levein took the controls... PS By the way, in your long last of accolades, you forgot to mention SKILL (a bit of a useful thing to have). 84463[/snapback] Yes, I forgot - young Weso also has SKILL and CLASS ! BTW, What the players do on the field make a manager good. It's the manager's job to motivate those players to get them to play to the best of their ability and beyond if possible. I'm not so sure Levein has the communication skills to do it. 84468[/snapback] are you his agent/boyfriend/girlfrind? i'm sure he's very good, but i'd prefer some old heads to get us out of the mess we're currently in
Lazza Posted 29 March 2005 Author Posted 29 March 2005 are you his agent/boyfriend/girlfrind? i'm sure he's very good, but i'd prefer some old heads to get us out of the mess we're currently in 84475[/snapback] No, no relationship. I just appreciate that he is a class player. Apparently I'm not the only person who thinks so. There have been many posts over the last year or so about our young talent and the fact that they should be given a chance. I'd also like to see Dawson giiven his chance. I agree that the old heads should get us out of the mess but they haven't.
Ric Flair Posted 29 March 2005 Posted 29 March 2005 For anyone who takes a keen interest in the academy and reserves like myself will know that Wesolowski, Dawson and Stearman are quality prospects. Levein has outlined that he is keen to give youth a chance and if you look at his track record he has done this at Hearts. Let's not get him mixed up with Micky Adams who was reknowned for treating youngsters badly. I have spoke to the mighty Levein regarding the youngsters after I had the same views as you, I was getting frustrated and wanted to know what was happening. A few months he outlined exactly what his plans were and I am confident he'll carry these promises out. Levein wants to give Stearman and Dawson first team football at Leicester, he also mentioned Alan Sheehan as a good prospect. Wesolowski was away with Australia for a month or two in January and it's common knwoledge this lad is talented. Let's just hope the big clubs that were after him when we signed him, don't come sniffing before he's put in a good shift at Leicester. Anyway Levein has said he wants to play these lads, but he's also got to make sure the time is right and that he doesn't ruin them. The youngsters will learn more if they play in a confident team and not a team that couldn't polish a turd. Levein has said recently that he wants us to pick up some quick points so the promising youngstrs can get a taster of first team football. Bloody sensible if you ask me. If the old pro's don't get these points quick, then again Levein might look at it and think what the hell some of these kids can't be any worse than Dublin, Greasy and Nalis and stick them in. What you also need to remember is that Hughes, McCarthy and Moore are young players aswell and it was important they were given a good run of games for us first. It's a slow process, we can't throw 5 or 6 young players in and expect them to perform. I think Stearman deserves a starting spot, Dawson and Weso deserve a few sub appearances to see how they do. If not perhaps a cheeky loan spell at a good passing lower level team. Chill out, and get behind Levein (support wise) he's no wannabe or blagger. Quality always comes through and Levein certainly has that. In 3 years time, Wesolowski and Stearman will be full internationals and Dawson could easily be aswell given the chance. But remember we also have quality players in their position in Williams and Hughes who deserve their place in the team at the minute. Stearman should be captain now and moulded in to the nucleus of our team.
Lazza Posted 29 March 2005 Author Posted 29 March 2005 Hoof , thanks very much for the information. I'm glad CL spoke to somebody about our juniors but it was only just recent that he made some public comments. Perhaps he's on the right track but we can't afford for these young lads to get frustrated when they sit back in the lower grades watching a first team that doesn't perform. I hope CL does follow through because as I said before these youngsters are our future.
Ric Flair Posted 29 March 2005 Posted 29 March 2005 Hoof , thanks very much for the information.I'm glad CL spoke to somebody about our juniors but it was only just recent that he made some public comments. Perhaps he's on the right track but we can't afford for these young lads to get frustrated when they sit back in the lower grades watching a first team that doesn't perform. I hope CL does follow through because as I said before these youngsters are our future. 84495[/snapback] There was an article appear in the mercury a few months ago where Levein outlined his plans for Stearman, Dawson and Sheehan and a few others. He said they are all talented, but was eager to recruit more youngsters as he wants 8 or 9 youngsters capable of first team football.
Ric Flair Posted 29 March 2005 Posted 29 March 2005 he is still only 16! 84507[/snapback] He is nearly 18 actually.
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