Gascoigne sectioned

[Fez of Mahrez]

Right, forget my ill-fated trip to Teignmouth/Tiverton/Tavistock/whichever T in Devon in was, we're going to Cockermouth.

Me and Bellend McChoplin are gonna find us a lighthouse to live in, we'll keep labradiiii. Oh and move the lighthouse inland to Cockermouth town centre. We'll be the talk of the town (and the greater lighthouse dwelling community).

Wasn't it Taunton in Somerset, home of the mighty Peacocks?

[The People's Hero]

Wasn't it Taunton in Somerset, home of the mighty Peacocks?

That was another one.

Are we in Taunton Town's division yet or shall I diary it for next year?

[Alexikokopops]

Right, forget my ill-fated trip to Teignmouth/Tiverton/Tavistock/whichever T in Devon in was, we're going to Cockermouth.

Me and Bellend McChoplin are gonna find us a lighthouse to live in, we'll keep labradiiii. Oh and move the lighthouse inland to Cockermouth town centre. We'll be the talk of the town (and the greater lighthouse dwelling community).

Wasn't it Taunton in Somerset, home of the mighty Peacocks?

That was another one.

Are we in Taunton Town's division yet or shall I diary it for next year?

It was Ilfracombe.

Jesus wept.

[Miquel The Work Geordie]

Just out of interest, how come?

He's had numerous chances to change himself, and has a solid base of friends who offer him support during his troubled periods.

I know that once addicted to something it can be difficult to wean yourself off of it, but Gascoigne is in a better position to quit the drink than alot of alcholics in this country.

Yes, he was a great footballer, a great character and a great bloke, but the downward spiral since his retirement from football has been nothing short of remarkable.

The man has very weak willpower, and, for that, I can have no sympathy for him.

[Ultra]

He's had numerous chances to change himself, and has a solid base of friends who offer him support during his troubled periods.

You sure about that?

I know that once addicted to something it can be difficult to wean yourself off of it, but Gascoigne is in a better position to quit the drink than a lot of alcoholics in this country.

Really? The evidence contained in his autobiography suggests he's had issues for some time, but while he could play football he was usually able to keep them at bay.

Yes, he was a great footballer, a great character and a great bloke, but the downward spiral since his retirement from football has been nothing short of remarkable.

But it's hardly unique, is it? He's not the first ex-player to turn to drink.

The man has very weak willpower, and, for that, I can have no sympathy for him.

You seem very sanctimonious and judgemental. Do you have any idea on what he may have been through to put him into the state he's now in?

[potter3]

It was Ilfracombe.

Jesus wept.

I've been to Ilfracombe. It's got a big hill next to the sea and a chip shop.

[ASH17LCFC]

Sad thing about this is he will die soon. He will be another George Best.

[Ultra]

Sad thing about this is he will die soon. He will be another George Best.

It looks that way.

He needs help badly, and doesn't seem to be getting it.

[Miquel The Work Geordie]

You sure about that?

Yes. When He was sectioned earlier this year the outcry of support from the media as well as the public was absolutely enormous. Their is no doubt that close firends would've attempted to resolve his issues.

Really? The evidence contained in his autobiography suggests he's had issues for some time, but while he could play fottball he was usually able to keep them at bay.

That is no excuse. When he did become re involved with football (management at Kettering), he was fired because he returned to drink. If he loved football enough to keep these "demons" at bay whilst playing, then surely whilst managing he should've done the same?

But it's hardly unique, is it? He's not the first ex-player to turn to drink.

Obviously it's not unique, but never has someone with the immense talent of Gascoigne, a figure who was (is?) loved so much by everyone slumped to such a low that they have had to be sectioned under the Mental Health Act. You can point out endless examples of players who have turned to alchol, (Merson, Adams) but they have exorcised such problems from their lives, and now both have very successful careers post-playing.

You seem very sanctimonious and judgemental. Are you Daggers/Disco Bob/Zapata in yet another disguise?

Please don't call me sanctamonious or judgemental. I have every sympathy for those who make an active effort to abandon addictions. But Gascoigne has had so many chances to sober up, and time and time again, he returns to booze, the great problem solver.

[Ultra]

From the posts in this thread it is clear you have very little understanding of what mental illness is and how badly it can affect people.

Gascoigne, by his own admission, has had to battle with it on numerous occasions during his life. His behaviour, although often eccentric, was tolerated, even indulged during his playing career, by those who could and should have done a lot more to help him. His apparent relapse into alcoholism seems to be a symptom of an even darker, long-term malaise.

He has the talent to continue a life within the game, maybe not as a writer/commentator like Stan Collymore (who has battled through similar troubles), but certainly as a coach to young players. Perhaps in time he should be encouraged to pursue the option further.

First of all, though, he has to be taken in hand by those closest to him and given all the help he needs to recover from his illness, even if it means a prolonged time away from the limelight.

Having worked in the past in this field, I'd say recovery was possible for him, but only if he really does have a patient, sympathetic network of close friends (NOT hangers-on or gold-diggers) and family willing to stand by him and support him through some hard times. If he doesn't, then a further relapse (possibly a terminal one) is pretty much inevitable.

It would be tragic if Gazza was to be remembered as a football version of Amy Winehouse or Pete Doherty.

[The People's Hero]

Ultra, shut up.

Right - Ilfracombe or Cockermouth?

Ilfracombe is in Devon-ish. Cockermouth is in Cumbria, I think.

Are we playing in those places this year?

[Master Fox]

Do I hell.

It was my search engine.

I am currently seeking a divorce from my laptop.

Oh, i didn't realise you were Zapata. I've been ingnoring all of your posts.

[MC Prussian]

That picture of Gazza being taken away in a wheelchair-like device is quite a sad sight.

[Bellend Sebastian]

Ultra, shut up.

Right - Ilfracombe or Cockermouth?

Ilfracombe is in Devon-ish. Cockermouth is in Cumbria, I think.

Are we playing in those places this year?

Cockermouth isn't that far from Carlisle. I'm sure that's nearest

[The People's Hero]

Cockermouth isn't that far from Carlisle. I'm sure that's nearest

That's the one then.

[Miquel The Work Geordie]

He has the talent to continue a life within the game, certainly as a coach to young players. Perhaps in time he should be encouraged to pursue the option further.

First of all, though, he has to be taken in hand by those closest to him and given all the help he needs to recover from his illness, even if it means a prolonged time away from the limelight.

Having worked in the past in this field, I'd say recovery was possible for him, but only if he really does have a patient, sympathetic network of close friends (NOT hangers-on or gold-diggers) and family willing to stand by him and support him through some hard times. If he doesn't, then a further relapse (possibly a terminal one) is pretty much inevitable.

It would be tragic if Gazza was to be remembered as a football version of Amy Winehouse or Pete Doherty.

I do agree with you on most of these points. It's definately time his closest friends made a serious effort to help him.

I believe that everyone on here just wants him to recover as quickly as possible and continue his life healthily.

I don't think that my posts put across what I was trying to say. I really want Gascoigne to return to a healthy mental state, but I wasn't shocked when I heard this news, unfortunately.

[Guest]

He's had numerous chances to change himself, and has a solid base of friends who offer him support during his troubled periods.

I know that once addicted to something it can be difficult to wean yourself off of it, but Gascoigne is in a better position to quit the drink than alot of alcholics in this country.

Yes, he was a great footballer, a great character and a great bloke, but the downward spiral since his retirement from football has been nothing short of remarkable.

The man has very weak willpower, and, for that, I can have no sympathy for him.

You sure about that?

Really? The evidence contained in his autobiography suggests he's had issues for some time, but while he could play football he was usually able to keep them at bay.

But it's hardly unique, is it? He's not the first ex-player to turn to drink.

You seem very sanctimonious and judgemental. Do you have any idea on what he may have been through to put him into the state he's now in?

From the posts in this thread it is clear you have very little understanding of what mental illness is and how badly it can affect people.

Gascoigne, by his own admission, has had to battle with it on numerous occasions during his life. His behaviour, although often eccentric, was tolerated, even indulged during his playing career, by those who could and should have done a lot more to help him. His apparent relapse into alcoholism seems to be a symptom of an even darker, long-term malaise.

He has the talent to continue a life within the game, maybe not as a writer/commentator like Stan Collymore (who has battled through similar troubles), but certainly as a coach to young players. Perhaps in time he should be encouraged to pursue the option further.

First of all, though, he has to be taken in hand by those closest to him and given all the help he needs to recover from his illness, even if it means a prolonged time away from the limelight.

Having worked in the past in this field, I'd say recovery was possible for him, but only if he really does have a patient, sympathetic network of close friends (NOT hangers-on or gold-diggers) and family willing to stand by him and support him through some hard times. If he doesn't, then a further relapse (possibly a terminal one) is pretty much inevitable.

It would be tragic if Gazza was to be remembered as a football version of Amy Winehouse or Pete Doherty.

I can't believe I am agreeing with something Ultra wrote.

[Miquel The Work Geordie]

I can't believe I am agreeing with something Ultra wrote.

Don't rub it in. I was the one that got owned by him.