RESPECT

[Tevez]

Today we had to shake hands of every player on the opposition team and one of their players was mouthing off then.

Today I and many others seen another match where the Ref walked away for misconduct when a cup game was 2-2

Today I also seen a player sent off in the first half hour for constant mouth.

I really don't know what do think, being a ref is a hard job but some of the decisions are pretty poor at times. Could you be a referee? What do players think of giving more respect to oppenents/the ref?

[Matt]

I think referees have a hard job, Everyone makes mistakes, They can't see every single thing, and they do get some out of order abuse, However to some extent I see this respect stuff abit of a farse, Referees are seen as tin gods, You can't stick up for yourself. Prime example the phantom goal, understandably and deservedly the Watford players were trying to state a case against the 'goal' and all the referee did (almost instantly) was book the player(s).

As I said I respect referees for what they do, but the respect campaign to me just seems like you can't state a case or say a bad work about referee when they are making blatant bad decisions.

As for lining up before a game and shaking the opponents hands that ain't gonna change anything, It just papers over the cracks and makes everything seem friendly, but when that first tackle goes in where's the friendly respect gone then?

[Simi]

The FA are managing to make a mockery of the campaign at the moment.

Punishing Boothroyd for the phantom goal was ridiculous. Sometimes the FA have to accept mistakes are going to be made and when they are, they MUST realise that a lot is resting on managers getting results.

My step-dad went and refereed this morning after being at Telford yesterday. One of the teams was a predominantly muslim team and when told there was going to be a minutes silience, a lot of them refused to take part and started talking during it. He then gave them an ultimatum, shut up or don't have the game played. They were soon quiet.

[Uncle Albert]

Ref's bring alot of it on themselves. A ref abandoned a game a FT and refused to play extra time, so one of the teams kicked off (rightly so) and the ref asked to be escorted by the other team.

The demand to much respect for me, our ref earlier failed to book someone for handballing it twice on purpose and some horrock tackling. Player safety went out the window today.

I had a school game last Thursday against some College in Leamington. fook me they stamped on us and I even got punched on the back of the head and the ref asked the oher teams manager to sub him, not send the **** off for punching me.

[Manwell Pablo]

This arguement all depends at what level you're talking about, Theres a massive difference between Sunday league refs and Proffesional league refs and the way they act. And rightly so.

[Sparky]

Today we had to shake hands of every player on the opposition team and one of their players was mouthing off then.

Today I and many others seen another match where the Ref walked away for misconduct when a cup game was 2-2

Today I also seen a player sent off in the first half hour for constant mouth.

I really don't know what do think, being a ref is a hard job but some of the decisions are pretty poor at times. Could you be a referee? What do players think of giving more respect to oppenents/the ref?

Ref's bring alot of it on themselves. A ref abandoned a game a FT and refused to play extra time, so one of the teams kicked off (rightly so) and the ref asked to be escorted by the other team.

The demand to much respect for me, our ref earlier failed to book someone for handballing it twice on purpose and some horrock tackling. Player safety went out the window today.

I had a school game last Thursday against some College in Leamington. fook me they stamped on us and I even got punched on the back of the head and the ref asked the oher teams manager to sub him, not send the **** off for punching me.

Involved an Alliance team but not allowed to talk about it on their site , what occured ? I also hear an ambulance was called pre match for somebody hit in the face with a ball ? Shed any light ?

[Uncle Albert]

Yea Quorn Royals v someone. The ref had a mare really, sent off a lad for nothing and was card happy after that. It was Royal's who got the game abandoned because of their abue to the referee but he deserved it, cost them in the cup down to 9 men and another 30 minutes of extra time.

Didnt know an ambulance came down.

[JoeyB]

I give my fair share of abuse to ref's but i only do it when poor decsions are made.

My 5 a-side game got abandoned for a sending off the other day (see 5 a-side thread) and i went mental, cost us the league.

Anyway if the FA can't keep hold of the campaign its the FA who have lost it not the Ref's.

[Lovejoy]

I've always been told that you have to earn respect . And some of these referees, well...

[The Stig]

I wonder how long it will be until DB11 has his say on this! Yes they have a hard job and some don't deserve the stick they get, some react to critisism in totally the wrong way and bring it on themselves. As for could I be a ref, yes I could, and intend to become one after I've passed my driving test.

[Bazaldo]

The FA are managing to make a mockery of the campaign at the moment.

Punishing Boothroyd for the phantom goal was ridiculous. Sometimes the FA have to accept mistakes are going to be made and when they are, they MUST realise that a lot is resting on managers getting results.

My step-dad went and refereed this morning after being at Telford yesterday. One of the teams was a predominantly muslim team and when told there was going to be a minutes silience, a lot of them refused to take part and started talking during it. He then gave them an ultimatum, shut up or don't have the game played. They were soon quiet.

gets my blood boiling that kind of behaviour, really having to stop myself on that!!!

so i will, wouldn't want to come over all racist or non pc

bunch of c**ts!!

disrespectful, non deserving British citizens!!!!

i would respect any race if they wanted a minutes silence for their fallen heroes.

Cocks!!!

[Lovejoy]

The FA are managing to make a mockery of the campaign at the moment.

Punishing Boothroyd for the phantom goal was ridiculous. Sometimes the FA have to accept mistakes are going to be made and when they are, they MUST realise that a lot is resting on managers getting results.

My step-dad went and refereed this morning after being at Telford yesterday. One of the teams was a predominantly muslim team and when told there was going to be a minutes silience, a lot of them refused to take part and started talking during it. He then gave them an ultimatum, shut up or don't have the game played. They were soon quiet.

I'm sorry if this sounds controversial, but if a predominantly white team did that to Muslims, there would be pandemonium. That is fooking outrageous !

[Bazaldo]

I'm sorry if this sounds controversial, but if a predominantly white team did that to Muslims, there would be pandemonium. That is fooking aotrageous !

Never is that controversial, they are the ones who are bang out of order, the only reason we have our multi racial society is because of these very fellas (and ladies) that have given their life in aid to keep us the very free country that some people just seem to love to abuse.

If i was reffing it i'd abandon the game award the points to the other team and say they dont fookin deserve to play football on this green and pleasant land!!

brainwashed tw*ts!!

[Dr The Singh]

Never is that controversial, they are the ones who are bang out of order, the only reason we have our multi racial society is because of these very fellas (and ladies) that have given their life in aid to keep us the very free country that some people just seem to love to abuse.

If i was reffing it i'd abandon the game award the points to the other team and say they dont fookin deserve to play football on this green and pleasant land!!

brainwashed tw*ts!!

Unfortunately those ignorant fookers give a bad name to the rest of there kin, atleast the ref made them shut up, majority would just let them get away with it!!

[Bazaldo]

Unfortunately those ignorant fookers give a bad name to the rest of there kin, atleast the ref made them shut up, majority would just let them get away with it!!

Spot on

works like that in all walks of life eh.

grrrrr

minority, majority etc etc

[DB11]

I agree with a lot of things. A referee has to earn respect and no campaign, no punishment, nothing, will stop a player from mouthing off at you if you make a bad decision; it's instinctive.

As for the handshake, that was because it was County Cup and it had to be done, and will be done for every future game in the County Cup.

But the ones who say that the FA shouldn't have punished Boothroyd and the Referee shouldn't have cautioned Watford players are wrong. Dissent is dissent, regardless of what has happened and dissent should be a caution.

And those who say refereeing is hard, well sometimes it is but mostly it is easy. You just have to be in a good position and anyone can tell whether it is a foul or not It's just being able to give the decision and be able to manage what is said after etc.

And the 'referees' who just turn up to get get paid, don't leave the centre circle all game, don't make an effort to communicate with the players. Those sort of referees will never get respect and, quite frankly, don't deserve it either.

If you, as a player, understand that your referee is here to enjoy the game and allow it to be played as per the LOAF then you should at least respect him for doing that, surely?

And an example above where a Referee asked for a player to be subbed instead of sent off is stupid and I don't believe is right. Personally, if something is mandatory then even at U11s I will administer what needs to be. If a player handballs it on the line in the first or last minute, if his team are losing 10-0 at the time or whatever I will still have to red card for it (youths play by the same laws as adults).

Things like that is annoying when you are just doing your job and what needs to be done but people don't respect you then. I mean at that age if it is a foul that would be last man then you could say that due to his age and level he is playing at he does not have the level of skill to have deliberately done it and then get away without dismissing, but handball (unless you can sell that it was an accident but then selling that no penalty should be given) then you have no choice (the player has to learn!!)

But yeah, I think the respect thing is kinda unorganised. I mean as Referees we were supposed to go to some workshop to be told how it is going to work and what we are expected to do (according to my RA) but I haven't been to one yet and no one else I know has. Stuff like that.

Anyway, yeah, that's it

[Samilktray]

I agree with a lot of things. A referee has to earn respect and no campaign, no punishment, nothing, will stop a player from mouthing off at you if you make a bad decision; it's instinctive.

As for the handshake, that was because it was County Cup and it had to be done, and will be done for every future game in the County Cup.

But the ones who say that the FA shouldn't have punished Boothroyd and the Referee shouldn't have cautioned Watford players are wrong. Dissent is dissent, regardless of what has happened and dissent should be a caution.

And those who say refereeing is hard, well sometimes it is but mostly it is easy. You just have to be in a good position and anyone can tell whether it is a foul or not It's just being able to give the decision and be able to manage what is said after etc.

And the 'referees' who just turn up to get get paid, don't leave the centre circle all game, don't make an effort to communicate with the players. Those sort of referees will never get respect and, quite frankly, don't deserve it either.

If you, as a player, understand that your referee is here to enjoy the game and allow it to be played as per the LOAF then you should at least respect him for doing that, surely?

And an example above where a Referee asked for a player to be subbed instead of sent off is stupid and I don't believe is right. Personally, if something is mandatory then even at U11s I will administer what needs to be. If a player handballs it on the line in the first or last minute, if his team are losing 10-0 at the time or whatever I will still have to red card for it (youths play by the same laws as adults).

Things like that is annoying when you are just doing your job and what needs to be done but people don't respect you then. I mean at that age if it is a foul that would be last man then you could say that due to his age and level he is playing at he does not have the level of skill to have deliberately done it and then get away without dismissing, but handball (unless you can sell that it was an accident but then selling that no penalty should be given) then you have no choice (the player has to learn!!)

But yeah, I think the respect thing is kinda unorganised. I mean as Referees we were supposed to go to some workshop to be told how it is going to work and what we are expected to do (according to my RA) but I haven't been to one yet and no one else I know has. Stuff like that.

Anyway, yeah, that's it

Could you please summarise.

[DB11]

Could you please summarise.

I was just writing all my thoughts so it is a bit of waffle

[Tevez]

Well DB11 it's all being well with your shield and protecting the refs. But some of your previous posts in the Sunday League thread are a joke, no wonder you don't get the respect you do when you say "I sent him off because he's chubby" (Example)

Have a quiet word.

[Joe.]

I bet DB's just a younger version of Paul Durkin.

[Tevez]

I was thinking more of a Gherkin.

[DB11]

Well DB11 it's all being well with your shield and protecting the refs. But some of your previous posts in the Sunday League thread are a joke, no wonder you don't get the respect you do when you say "I sent him off because he's chubby" (Example)

Have a quiet word.

I've never sent anyone off

And as each game goes by, I learn something new as I am quite a new referee. If you compare my last performance to my very first there will be a massive difference but I improve by getting experience and learning to read the game better too. I bet that in 10 years I will look back on now and see a massive difference, like I am doing from now to last season.

[Sparky]

I agree with a lot of things. A referee has to earn respect and no campaign, no punishment, nothing, will stop a player from mouthing off at you if you make a bad decision; it's instinctive.

As for the handshake, that was because it was County Cup and it had to be done, and will be done for every future game in the County Cup.

But the ones who say that the FA shouldn't have punished Boothroyd and the Referee shouldn't have cautioned Watford players are wrong. Dissent is dissent, regardless of what has happened and dissent should be a caution.

And those who say refereeing is hard, well sometimes it is but mostly it is easy. You just have to be in a good position and anyone can tell whether it is a foul or not It's just being able to give the decision and be able to manage what is said after etc.

And the 'referees' who just turn up to get get paid, don't leave the centre circle all game, don't make an effort to communicate with the players. Those sort of referees will never get respect and, quite frankly, don't deserve it either.

If you, as a player, understand that your referee is here to enjoy the game and allow it to be played as per the LOAF then you should at least respect him for doing that, surely?

And an example above where a Referee asked for a player to be subbed instead of sent off is stupid and I don't believe is right. Personally, if something is mandatory then even at U11s I will administer what needs to be. If a player handballs it on the line in the first or last minute, if his team are losing 10-0 at the time or whatever I will still have to red card for it (youths play by the same laws as adults).

Things like that is annoying when you are just doing your job and what needs to be done but people don't respect you then. I mean at that age if it is a foul that would be last man then you could say that due to his age and level he is playing at he does not have the level of skill to have deliberately done it and then get away without dismissing, but handball (unless you can sell that it was an accident but then selling that no penalty should be given) then you have no choice (the player has to learn!!)

But yeah, I think the respect thing is kinda unorganised. I mean as Referees we were supposed to go to some workshop to be told how it is going to work and what we are expected to do (according to my RA) but I haven't been to one yet and no one else I know has. Stuff like that.

Anyway, yeah, that's it

We didnt do the handshake , did everybody else ??

[Tevez]

We did. Some lad was a right cooont doing it. Just glad I licked my hand before.

[Sparky]

The ref walked in to our dressing room before the game for a chat , he said

" Alright gentleman , now i want no trouble from you boys today , remember this is a council estate and there are lots of children about , do you get what im saying "

Errrm not really