Thracian Posted 20 November 2008 Posted 20 November 2008 Isn't it ironic that the BNP have complained to the police that leaking the list breaches their rights under......you guessed it.....the Human Rights Act! Bunch of hypocritical tossers if you ask me! Simon The comment I read was that they "couldn't have bought the publicity". And any action against their members will only bring them more publicity.
Bazaldo Posted 20 November 2008 Posted 20 November 2008 You're right.. but you're fighting a losing battle.The prevalent view will always be the lowest common denominator crap peddled by the tabloids and clung to by those who are looking for excuses of why their life isn't as it could be. If these people looked at themselves and the way they operate, they might notice that whilst immigration is a concern (in terms of keeping it controlled, legal and keeping the infrastructure to a point where the population can be adequately accomodated) it is something which is going to happen in this day and age and perhaps make changes to their own lives to make themselves happier. Happy with my life and happy the way i am, just uncertain by the future. When two muslim sisters claim £10 mil i know we're in a fooked up country. Army boys get £100's for losing limbs Magic. Imagine two white sisters getting that??? Nah didn't think so Thats why the future is grim
skinnydipper Posted 20 November 2008 Posted 20 November 2008 Happy with my life and happy the way i am, just uncertain by the future.When two muslim sisters claim £10 mil i know we're in a fooked up country. Army boys get £100's for losing limbs Magic. Imagine two white sisters getting that??? Nah didn't think so Thats why the future is grim Muslim ,black and female. You must be thinking of emigrating
Bazaldo Posted 20 November 2008 Posted 20 November 2008 The comment I read was that they "couldn't have bought the publicity". And any action against their members will only bring them more publicity. yeah cause thats the british attitude, feel sorry for the picked upon. Cant stand by our actions cause worried by what people think. Stand in a queue when you prob dont know what its for. Say sorry to someone who bumps into you. We're too soft!!!
Bazaldo Posted 20 November 2008 Posted 20 November 2008 Muslim ,black and female.You must be thinking of emigrating Nah just the call of the old racism malarky again. Think its all bollox. I have no worries on skin colour, just the people who play it like their sooooo hard done to. Get on with it, pick yourself up and be better is what i say. Getting 10 mil, its ludicrous. Worlds gone mad!!! Ok maybe they were unfaily treated but 10mil!!!! crazy
stez Posted 20 November 2008 Posted 20 November 2008 yeah cause thats the british attitude, feel sorry for the picked upon. Cant stand by our actions cause worried by what people think.Stand in a queue when you prob dont know what its for. Say sorry to someone who bumps into you. We're too soft!!! i've never done that one, but i do always apologise when myself and somebody else, accidentally bump into each other. don't make me soft, that makes me polite
Joe. Posted 20 November 2008 Posted 20 November 2008 I think we should just all agree that very few people really know what they're talking about when it comes to immigration. I think this thread shows it.
LeeCovFox Posted 20 November 2008 Posted 20 November 2008 Close the doors simple. Why should we be the c'est pit of everyother countries unwanted. Charity starts at home.Europeans and foreigners laugh at us, soft touch. Yes i do know, yes i know a lot who laugh at us British, they openly take the pi**. Why should we let them in? Get Britains off their arse and into work. People of the early 20th century would be turning in their graves to see whats happened. All that the boys fought for is totally undermined. We have such a softly softly approach to things its unreal. Bring back national service too. And yes i'd do it tomorrow before you ask. Make people realise that this country is worth fighting for. Im really worried by the youth of today sitting there going braaap and all the crap they come out with. Perhaps im too old fashioned for my age. First of all, we are European ourselves. A point you have so kindly emphasised by referring to a 'c'est pit'. And there has always been a youth culture. Why does it matter what the influences are? I disagree that you are too old fashioned for your age. You are simply too ignorant, regardless of your age. I have no idea what a c'est pit is by the way.
Bazaldo Posted 20 November 2008 Posted 20 November 2008 i've never done that one, but i do always apologise when myself and somebody else, accidentally bump into each other. don't make me soft, that makes me polite I know what you mean, it is polite but they've bumped into you. They have knocked into you and you say sorry. What im trying to say its the british way. Instead of waiting for the other persons apology we say sorry. Why? We've not bumped into them. im really typing all this The way we all are. I just think we as a nation should toughen up a bit. Been rolled over for far too long.
LeeCovFox Posted 20 November 2008 Posted 20 November 2008 I know more than enough immigrants that don't do fook all to help the economy out, scrounging bastardsYou pose a good argument Bet their English is better than yours though.
Shrenchel Posted 20 November 2008 Author Posted 20 November 2008 I know more than enough immigrants that don't do fook all to help the economy out, scrounging bastardsYou pose a good argument As brilliant as I'm sure Britain would be doing if we based our immigration policy on the immigrants you know, probably the most comprehensive study done (this one: http://www.channel4.com/news/dispatches_pd..._immigrants.pdf ) showed that overall every single immigrant group makes a positive contribution to the British economy apart from Somalians i.e. they pay more in tax than they 'scrounge' in benefits and use of the NHS etc. If you read it you can also see that despite apparently working for peanuts there are 15 immigrant nationalities on a higher yearly wage than British born people, there are 18 immigrant nationalities who work more hours a week than British born people and there are 13 groups that contribute more in tax and NI than British people. There are many immigrant groups claiming less unemployment benefit than British born people, including the Polish, who actually have so few people on unemployment benefit that their percentage rounds to zero. There are 15 immigrant populations which claim less income support than British born people, and only 10 which claim more. There are 19 immigrant nationalities who claim less sickness or disability benefit than British people, and only 6 that claim more (again the Polish actually have so few people that their percentage rounds to zero.) You can prove anything with facts though eh.
Bazaldo Posted 20 November 2008 Posted 20 November 2008 First of all, we are European ourselves. A point you have so kindly emphasised by referring to a 'c'est pit'. And there has always been a youth culture. Why does it matter what the influences are? I disagree that you are too old fashioned for your age. You are simply too ignorant, regardless of your age.I have no idea what a c'est pit is by the way. Im not a European, you might be but im certainly not. We're in the EU yes but again we subsidise so much more to Europe than we get. We are being taken the pi** out of. French farmers love us, they get so much money from the EU than they put in its great for them. Can't remember the figures but we're being conned agian by Labour. Look it up. We get sh*t from Europe its one big fu*k up. And a c'est pit is basically a medieval toilet my friend.
LeeCovFox Posted 20 November 2008 Posted 20 November 2008 Im not a European, you might be but im certainly not.We're in the EU yes but again we subsidise so much more to Europe than we get. We are being taken the pi** out of. French farmers love us, they get so much money from the EU than they put in its great for them. Can't remember the figures but we're being conned agian by Labour. Look it up. We get sh*t from Europe its one big fu*k up. And a c'est pit is basically a medieval toilet my friend. No it isn't. A cess pit is. I'm not talking about Europe as a political entity. As a continental entity we are European.
Bazaldo Posted 20 November 2008 Posted 20 November 2008 No it isn't. A cess pit is. I'm not talking about Europe as a political entity. As a continental entity we are European. Yep in a geographical point of view we are. But lets keep it at that. VOTE BNP Nah bunch of tossers
LeeCovFox Posted 20 November 2008 Posted 20 November 2008 Yep in a geographical point of view we are. But lets keep it at that. You see although I don't agree with that view, thats an acceptable view to have. Views which are in sympathy with a party rife to the very top with racism and xenophobia however, are not.
skinnydipper Posted 20 November 2008 Posted 20 November 2008 VOTE BNP Does your mum know your up this late?
Tilley Posted 20 November 2008 Posted 20 November 2008 Joe is right, the majority (me being one) know nothing about immigration, assylum seekers etc, Hence I haven't wrote shit about something I know very little about. People write stuff, then don't know how to back it up or emphasise their point, idiots.
LeeCovFox Posted 20 November 2008 Posted 20 November 2008 I would like to add by the way, that I do not subscribe to the view that the BNP should be banned. I think their policies are unacceptable and abhorrent, but banning the tossers would only drive them underground. 'Keep your friends close and your enemies closer' is the saying I believe. I want these scumbags right where we can see them, so that the general public can see them for what they are. There is a certain irony in attempting to defeat facist organisations by banning them.
LeeCovFox Posted 20 November 2008 Posted 20 November 2008 Joe is right, the majority (me being one) know nothing about immigration, assylum seekers etc,Hence I haven't wrote shit about something I know very little about. People write stuff, then don't know how to back it up or emphasise their point, idiots. I would agree with that. I have been careful not to speak about immigration in this thread as I have nowhere near enough knowledge on the subject to do any argument justice. My general feeling though is that immigration is good for the country. I do however, think that it is perfectly acceptable to oppose the views expressed by those who admit to supporting the BNP or the policies which it advocates. That works both ways of course.
wirralsimon Posted 20 November 2008 Posted 20 November 2008 Im not a European, you might be but im certainly not.We're in the EU yes but again we subsidise so much more to Europe than we get. We are being taken the pi** out of. French farmers love us, they get so much money from the EU than they put in its great for them. Can't remember the figures but we're being conned agian by Labour. Look it up. We get sh*t from Europe its one big fu*k up. And a c'est pit is basically a medieval toilet my friend. This reminds me of my other Grandad from the other side of the family. (see a few posts ago) When the family were all gathered together he would swig a couple of large whisky and ginger ales, and start a conversation with the words "Of course it was never the same after they let the blacks in" at which point mayhem would ensue as we all took turns to disagree with him. He died many years ago and to be honest I have no idea what he really thought, but deep down I think he just enjoyed the attention he got. Simon
Bazaldo Posted 20 November 2008 Posted 20 November 2008 You see although I don't agree with that view, thats an acceptable view to have. Views which are in sympathy with a party rife to the very top with racism and xenophobia however, are not. See your not reading inbetween the lines here, i am a true true patriot and believe in all things British. I believe charity begins at home and look after your own first then try to rescue the rest of the world. We are biting off more than we can chew and it will come back to haunt us. There is a very real danger out there and no politician or propaganda minister will pull the wool over my eyes and tell me that we live in such a fruitful country where everything goes. I really do believe that we should live and let live. Unfortunately there are scumbags out there who call themselves British but hate this country. They are the ones who are a threat and they live silently just waiting for that call from whoever willing to give themselves to the cause. We live in dangerous times and a heated one too. Anyone who thinks its all rosy is a fool. One of my instances is a person i work with who blamed America for the new year tsunami. Said it was their fault as they had the technology and didn't warn everyone. Said that America had it "coming"afterwards. This is a genuine person who i used to have a lot of time and respect for. As much as some Americans are jumped up egotistical kn*bs i must say i know which side im batting for. Im not in sympathy with the BNP i just believe we should tread carefully in dangerous times. Dont forget 9/11 and 7/7. I wear my help for heroes band with pride. I just wish i was 10 yrs younger cause i'd be in the army and over there. Does this make me BNP or racist??? Its a serious post, im worried for the future.
Bazaldo Posted 20 November 2008 Posted 20 November 2008 As brilliant as I'm sure Britain would be doing if we based our immigration policy on the immigrants you know, probably the most comprehensive study done (this one: http://www.channel4.com/news/dispatches_pd..._immigrants.pdf ) showed that overall every single immigrant group makes a positive contribution to the British economy apart from Somalians i.e. they pay more in tax than they 'scrounge' in benefits and use of the NHS etc.If you read it you can also see that despite apparently working for peanuts there are 15 immigrant nationalities on a higher yearly wage than British born people, there are 18 immigrant nationalities who work more hours a week than British born people and there are 13 groups that contribute more in tax and NI than British people. There are many immigrant groups claiming less unemployment benefit than British born people, including the Polish, who actually have so few people on unemployment benefit that their percentage rounds to zero. There are 15 immigrant populations which claim less income support than British born people, and only 10 which claim more. There are 19 immigrant nationalities who claim less sickness or disability benefit than British people, and only 6 that claim more (again the Polish actually have so few people that their percentage rounds to zero.) You can prove anything with facts though eh. Hey fair shout
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