BNP membership list leaked online

[LeeCovFox]

See your not reading inbetween the lines here, i am a true true patriot and believe in all things British. I believe charity begins at home and look after your own first then try to rescue the rest of the world. We are biting off more than we can chew and it will come back to haunt us. There is a very real danger out there and no politician or propaganda minister will pull the wool over my eyes and tell me that we live in such a fruitful country where everything goes.

I really do believe that we should live and let live. Unfortunately there are scumbags out there who call themselves British but hate this country. They are the ones who are a threat and they live silently just waiting for that call from whoever willing to give themselves to the cause.

We live in dangerous times and a heated one too. Anyone who thinks its all rosy is a fool.

One of my instances is a person i work with who blamed America for the new year tsunami. Said it was their fault as they had the technology and didn't warn everyone. Said that America had it "coming"afterwards.

This is a genuine person who i used to have a lot of time and respect for.

As much as some Americans are jumped up egotistical kn*bs i must say i know which side im batting for.

Im not in sympathy with the BNP i just believe we should tread carefully in dangerous times.

Dont forget 9/11 and 7/7.

I wear my help for heroes band with pride. I just wish i was 10 yrs younger cause i'd be in the army and over there.

Does this make me BNP or racist???

Its a serious post, im worried for the future.

See, this is the kind of thing I really don't get. The United States is as foreign as, say, Pakistan. So why is it that America is on 'our side' and nations in which the predominant population is non-white or non-christian are not? This debate is about the BNP essentially, so I'm not going to go into too much detail here, but the United States has done as much, if not more harm to this nation as any other has.

[wirralsimon]

See your not reading inbetween the lines here, i am a true true patriot and believe in all things British. I believe charity begins at home and look after your own first then try to rescue the rest of the world. We are biting off more than we can chew and it will come back to haunt us. There is a very real danger out there and no politician or propaganda minister will pull the wool over my eyes and tell me that we live in such a fruitful country where everything goes.

I really do believe that we should live and let live. Unfortunately there are scumbags out there who call themselves British but hate this country. They are the ones who are a threat and they live silently just waiting for that call from whoever willing to give themselves to the cause.

We live in dangerous times and a heated one too. Anyone who thinks its all rosy is a fool.

One of my instances is a person i work with who blamed America for the new year tsunami. Said it was their fault as they had the technology and didn't warn everyone. Said that America had it "coming"afterwards.

This is a genuine person who i used to have a lot of time and respect for.

As much as some Americans are jumped up egotistical kn*bs i must say i know which side im batting for.

Im not in sympathy with the BNP i just believe we should tread carefully in dangerous times.

Dont forget 9/11 and 7/7.

I wear my help for heroes band with pride. I just wish i was 10 yrs younger cause i'd be in the army and over there.

Does this make me BNP or racist???

Its a serious post, im worried for the future.

That's how the BNP operate. An arm around the shoulder to people worried in uncertain times, reassurance that they understand and are patriotic like you.

There's a vile agenda there and some truly unpleasant people that you would never be aware of while you are being groomed for support/membership, but that comes later.

In truth many of the 10,000 or so on that list will already be lapsed members because they will have seen for themselves that the BNP is a modestly successful home for a protest vote but laughably ill-equipped for serious office. Where that becomes dangerous is if they can ride a political wave like Jean-Marie le Pen did in France.

[Thracian]

The point is that Policemen are supposed to be unbiased by race, gender, sex, creed, et cetera.

By signing up for the BNP you are readily agreeing to beliefs that separate people by one or more of the above criteria.

It isn't about making pariahs out of people for their personal beliefs, it's about their personal beliefs being incompatible with serving a multicultural society.

Are you saying that someone can't act in an unbiased way in their professional life but be biased privately. Cos I just don't believe it.

And what you don't seem to understand is that society has changed dramatically for some people.

While young people have grown up in multi-cultural Britain and been bombarded with edicts about equality as part of their education, older people grew up in a predominently white Britain.

My father never said one word that I can remember about Germans. But when he came home from the War in Holland he never once wanted to set foot on foreign soil again...and he never did.

He never spoke of or to a German for the rest of his time either. I don't know if he became racist. He was such a Christian person that I'd doubt it. But what if he was? What if he hated Germans? What if he seen those people do things he never felt able or willing to describe?.

I wonder how racist some of you smug-sounding theorists would be if you'd seen your pals with their legs shot off or their entrails spilling out onto the muddy floor of some trench. Day after day.

So what would you do about all those guys returning from five year bloodbath who perhaps didn't want to sing the praises of all things foreign. Give their jobs to Romanians and sack our soldiers for their unforgiveably anti-social standpoint.

Get real fella. Racism has and will always exist and will be expressed or supressed according to the circumstances of the day. And it is as relevent now as ever.

I sold a ring to an 18-year-old who had not long returned from Afghanistan the other day. The ring had to go on his left hand cos the right hand was shattered. It shattered cos the faulty weapon he'd kindly been supplied with by the shits who serve for our government exploded as he tried to fire it.

He felt no real bitterness about that. Cos all his bitterness concerned the kids of his unit who hadn't come back, whose bodies or lives were ended or left in pieces by the viciousness of that pointless and endless conflict.

Are you saying now that he shouldn't be a policeman, a teacher, a fireman or a medic if deep down he hated Afghans or even Arabs in general?

Are you saying that not just his hand but his working life should be fecked just because he had different feelings to yours?

Cos I'd say his life's experience might well hold him in good stead for all of those jobs.

And so long as he kept his prejudices to himself and just got on with his job and rebuilding his life what's the big deal? Lots of surgeons try to cure people they probably can't stand the sights of.

And if our authorities ever develop a mental monitoring system they could probably justify sacking everyone on a given day - either for a racist thought, an inappropriate thought, a sudden surge of hatred for the boss or a colleague or whatever.

Racial harmony won't come about by sacking people and making them hate even deeper.

It will come about through the opportunity to exchange views, to play sports together, and to develop understanding through friendship and communication.

It comes about by a gradual building of mutual respect. It comes from sitting in a pub with someone like Singhy and liking the guy's company or from building trust with people of all races on a market stall. People who are as wary or you as you might be of them at first.

Harmony will come with more of that and less of the fecking warfare.

And certainly not through the social manipulating of some political theorists who've never put themselves in a position where they're likely to feel hatred.

[LeeCovFox]

See your not reading inbetween the lines here, i am a true true patriot and believe in all things British. I believe charity begins at home and look after your own first then try to rescue the rest of the world. We are biting off more than we can chew and it will come back to haunt us. There is a very real danger out there and no politician or propaganda minister will pull the wool over my eyes and tell me that we live in such a fruitful country where everything goes.

I really do believe that we should live and let live. Unfortunately there are scumbags out there who call themselves British but hate this country. They are the ones who are a threat and they live silently just waiting for that call from whoever willing to give themselves to the cause.

We live in dangerous times and a heated one too. Anyone who thinks its all rosy is a fool.

One of my instances is a person i work with who blamed America for the new year tsunami. Said it was their fault as they had the technology and didn't warn everyone. Said that America had it "coming"afterwards.

This is a genuine person who i used to have a lot of time and respect for.

As much as some Americans are jumped up egotistical kn*bs i must say i know which side im batting for.

Im not in sympathy with the BNP i just believe we should tread carefully in dangerous times.

Dont forget 9/11 and 7/7.

I wear my help for heroes band with pride. I just wish i was 10 yrs younger cause i'd be in the army and over there.

Does this make me BNP or racist???

Its a serious post, im worried for the future.

I do not for one moment subscribe to the view that those who died on that day deserved to. But to ignore the contribution of the Western world to that horrible collection of events is to display ignorance bordering on the ludicrous. Also, 9/11 was not an attack by this notional 'them' on 'us. It was perpetrated by extremists. The nationality of these people was not the reason for the attacks. But just in case people believe that is was a factor, remember that fifteen of the hijackers were from Saudi Arabia, a nation regarded as a vital ally by the West, Britain and the US included.

[Bazaldo]

That's how the BNP operate. An arm around the shoulder to people worried in uncertain times, reassurance that they understand and are patriotic like you.

There's a vile agenda there and some truly unpleasant people that you would never be aware of while you are being groomed for support/membership, but that comes later.

In truth many of the 10,000 or so on that list will already be lapsed members because they will have seen for themselves that the BNP is a modestly successful home for a protest vote but laughably ill-equipped for serious office. Where that becomes dangerous is if they can ride a political wave like Jean-Marie le Pen did in France.

Not at all i have my own mind, im a patriot thats all, love my country like i do my football team with a passion and its worth defending. I dislike the BNP like the next bloke, bunch of racists thats why they are hidden in a political point of view pretty much like hitler.

Im just saying be on your toes cause they do walk among us.

And it'll get worse.

Hook hand was claiming for years from us.

Preaching how we're gonna get it. from Great Britain.....from here!!!......the infadels!!!!

Do you not feel shameful we have harboured these people?

Surely you cant stick up for that???

Our shitty rules failed in the deportation of such people but it goes on in such mass numbers.

Think we are crazy not to have our guard up.

[Bazaldo]

Are you saying that someone can't act in an unbiased way in their professional life but be biased privately. Cos I just don't believe it.

And what you don't seem to understand is that society has changed dramatically for some people.

While young people have grown up in multi-cultural Britain and been bombarded with edicts about equality as part of their education, older people grew up in a predominently white Britain.

My father never said one word that I can remember about Germans. But when he came home from the War in Holland he never once wanted to set foot on foreign soil again...and he never did.

He never spoke of or to a German for the rest of his time either. I don't know if he became racist. He was such a Christian person that I'd doubt it. But what what if he was? What if he hated Germans? What if he seen those people do things he never felt able or willing to describe?.

I wonder how racist some of you smug-sounding theorists would be if you'd seen your pals with their legs shot off or their entrails spilling out onto the muddy floor of some trench. Day after day.

So what would you do about all those guys returning from five year bloodbath who perhaps didn't want to sing the praises of all things foreign. Give their jobs to Romanians and sack our soldiers for their unforgiveably anti-social standpoint.

Get real fella. Racism has and will always exist and will be expressed or surpressed according to the circumstances of the day. And it is as relevent now as ever.

I sold a ring to an 18-year-old who had not long returned from Afghanistan the other day. The ring had to go on his left hand cos the right hand was shattered. It shattered cos the faulty weapon he'd kindly been supplied with by the shits who serve for our government exploded as he tried to fire it.

He felt no real bitterness about that. Cos all his bitterness concerned the kids of his unit who hadn't come back, whose bodies or lives were ended or left in pieces by the viciousness of that pointless and endless conflict.

Are you saying now that he shouldn't be a policeman, a teacher, a fireman or a medic if deep down he hated Afghans or even Arabs in general?

Are you saying that not just his hand but his working life should be fecked just because he had different feelings to yours?

Cos I'd say his life's experience might well hold him in good stead for all of those jobs.

And so long as he kept his prejudices to himself and just got on with his job and rebuilding his life what's the big deal? Lots of surgeons try to cure people they probably can't stand the sights of.

And if our authorities ever develop a mental monitoring system they could probably justify sacking everyone on a given day - either for a racist thought, an inappropriate thought, a sudden surge of hatred for the boss or a colleague or whatever.

Racial harmony won't come about by sacking people and making them hate even deeper.

It will come about through the opportunity to exchange views, to play sports together, and to develop understanding through friendship and communication.

It comes about by a gradual building of mutual respect. It comes from sitting in a pub with someone like Singhy and liking the guy's company or from building trust with people of all races on a market stall. People who are as wary or you as you might be of them at first.

Harmony will come with more of that and less of the fecking warfare.

And certainly not through the social manipulating of some political theorists who've never put themselves in a position where they're likely to feel hatred.

spot on

[Bazaldo]

I do not for one moment subscribe to the view that those who died on that day deserved to. But to ignore the contribution of the Western world to that horrible collection of events is to display ignorance bordering on the ludicrous. Also, 9/11 was not an attack by this notional 'them' on 'us. It was perpetrated by extremists. The nationality of these people was not the reason for the attacks. But just in case people believe that is was a factor, remember that fifteen of the hijackers were from Saudi Arabia, a nation regarded as a vital ally by the West, Britain and the US included.

Because they would die for allah, its a muslim country. They hate all things western. They preach it. its a danger to what we're talking about now.

What our forefathers fought for.

democracy. Freedom of speech.

No-one should have a go at the western world for trying to keep order and democracy in my point of view.

Otherwise things like this very forum would be up sh*t creek and we'd be stoned. (and i dont mean a spliff either )

[Bazaldo]

Wheres daggers?

Dont worry i realise he is simple

try to fuel things, i get it now

[LeeCovFox]

Because they would die for allah, its a muslim country. They hate all things western. They preach it. its a danger to what we're talking about now.

What our forefathers fought for.

democracy. Freedom of speech.

No-one should have a go at the western world for trying to keep order and democracy in my point of view.

Otherwise things like this very forum would be up sh*t creek and we'd be stoned. (and i dont mean a spliff either )

Islamic extremists preach it. Like the British-born Richard Reid, better known as the Shoe-Bomber. Extremism is not preached based on one's nationality. Christians in some African nations have been known to stone women to death for adultery. So how being a Christian country is preferable to being a Muslim on is beyond me. And the Iraq War is certainly not about keeping order or promoting democracy. You may scoff at the argument that the war was about Iraq's oil supply. Bu, please. tll me why we invaded Iraq for having bastard heading up an undemocratic regime in a nation which posed no direct threat to us, yet have never even considered intervention in a nation such as Zimbabwe. I also want to take issue with a comment you made earlier. I may have misinterpreted it and if so I apologise in advance. I certainly hope I have. I can't remember it exactly, but the inference was that British is best. How can any intelligent being believe that superiority in any context is confined within borders?

[LeeCovFox]

Wheres daggers?

Dont worry i realise he is simple

try to fuel things, i get it now

I don't know Daggers, and I do not agree with everything that he posts. But I have been a member of this forum long enough to know that he does believe the views which he has expressed in this thread. He holds a view which is polar opposite of your own, and to be honest tends to express his opinions in a far more measured and intelligent way than you have managed to in this thread.

[Thracian]

My Grandfather came here as a refugee in 1934 having been imprisoned by Adolf Hitler for 'unauthorised' political activities. He hard worked all his life including a spell as a teacher in Zambia and Ethiopia when he worked hard to build tolerance and understanding between communities because he had seen at first hand the awful consequences of bigotry and racial hatred.

He became a British citizen and spent the whole of the second world war serving in the British Army fighting for the freedoms we now have, not an easy task for a German. Hardly a dole-scrounging asylum seeker, do not fall for sterotypes.

He devoted all of his life to fighting to build a just and tolerant society wherever he went. Do not presume that the brave men and women who fought in the two world wars did so to try and build a white supremacist unjust intolerant society, it is people like you and the intolerance and bigotry you represent that they would be ashamed of.

Bert Trautmann was another who earned the admiration of thousands at a time when it must have been so difficult to be a German face in Britain. It perhaps goes to prove my point that racial harmony is earned over time and by example.

[Bazaldo]

Islamic extremists preach it. Like the British-born Richard Reid, better known as the Shoe-Bomber. Extremism is not preached based on one's nationality. Christians in some African nations have been known to stone women to death for adultery. So how being a Christian country is preferable to being a Muslim on is beyond me. And the Iraq War is certainly not about keeping order or promoting democracy. You may scoff at the argument that the war was about Iraq's oil supply. Bu, please. tll me why we invaded Iraq for having bastard heading up an undemocratic regime in a nation which posed no direct threat to us, yet have never even considered intervention in a nation such as Zimbabwe. I also want to take issue with a comment you made earlier. I may have misinterpreted it and if so I apologise in advance. I certainly hope I have. I can't remember it exactly, but the inference was that British is best. How can any intelligent being believe that superiority in any context is confined within borders?

Nah good point, i didn't put British is best (even though we are ) but i wonder why we surrender everything this country has done since our last succesful invasion of 1066, why oh why do we sit here and forget why we have such a very very proud heritage, a heritage that is the envy of the world and we are taken the pi** out of. We all sit there on 11/11 and do our 2 mins silence and remember the fallen. Those generations dead for what we believe in. I think we are too soft in how we present ourselves to the world. We are not this great country anymore, we allow allcomers to openly ridicule us. I know a lot of foreigners who openly admit the country they are from and cheer their own national football team, (which is great for banter by the way) but when they openly admit to me they are here for the ride it really gets to me. They take and take and take. Then there is the middle (couldron) east. One big hellhole. There are a lot of fanatical believers out there. Ones who want to do serious harm to us, its a fact they do. Because we stick up for Kuwait against a totally unprovoked attack from saddam, (ok oil was an issue too) they see it right to fly planes into innocent civillians??

And 7/7 i dont get it myself. Also they Bombed the towers way before any of that shi*.

Thing is they think they are superior, superior beings who are martyrs to the cause.

We harbour them here too.

This is not BNP either just looking out for ones own.

We need to get our sense of pride back

Thraics post was brill.

[Bazaldo]

I don't know Daggers, and I do not agree with everything that he posts. But I have been a member of this forum long enough to know that he does believe the views which he has expressed in this thread. He holds a view which is polar opposite of your own, and to be honest tends to express his opinions in a far more measured and intelligent way than you have managed to in this thread.

Hey i might not come across as the most intelligent but i know my history fella and thats the future.

Learn from it and make yourself better.

Also i hope thats not an insult...........i have my opinions ya know

[wirralsimon]

Is the same middle east that countless thousands of British people work in to earn a quick buck while openly admitting that they are not there for the culture or the long term?

Simon

[LeeCovFox]

Nah good point, i didn't put British is best (even though we are ) but i wonder why we surrender everything this country has done since our last succesful invasion of 1066, why oh why do we sit here and forget why we have such a very very proud heritage, a heritage that is the envy of the world and we are taken the pi** out of. We all sit there on 11/11 and do our 2 mins silence and remember the fallen. Those generations dead for what we believe in. I think we are too soft in how we present ourselves to the world. We are not this great country anymore, we allow allcomers to openly ridicule us. I know a lot of foreigners who openly admit the country they are from and cheer their own national football team, (which is great for banter by the way) but when they openly admit to me they are here for the ride it really gets to me. They take and take and take. Then there is the middle (couldron) east. One big hellhole. There are a lot of fanatical believers out there. Ones who want to do serious harm to us, its a fact they do. Because we stick up for Kuwait against a totally unprovoked attack from saddam, (ok oil was an issue too) they see it right to fly planes into innocent civillians??

And 7/7 i dont get it myself. Also they Bombed the towers way before any of that shi*.

Thing is they think they are superior, superior beings who are martyrs to the cause.

We harbour them here too.

This is not BNP either just looking out for ones own.

We need to get our sense of pride back

Thraics post was brill.

Not true. Honestly, read up on your history, there have been many incidences of Western foreign policy which helped fuel the hatred which is felt by extremists and which culminated in the atrocities of 9/11. And do not make the mistake of believing that state sponsored terrorism (the invasion of Iraq being a prime example) is better in anyway than any other form.

[LeeCovFox]

Hey i might not come across as the most intelligent but i know my history fella and thats the future.

Learn from it and make yourself better.

Also i hope thats not an insult...........i have my opinions ya know

No it wasn't.

History is very open to interpretation. You may know of historical events, but this alone doesn't equate to an understanding of history, only the ability to interpret it within the parameters of your own beliefs.

[Bazaldo]

Not true. Honestly, read up on your history, there have been many incidences of Western foreign policy which helped fuel the hatred which is felt by extremists and which culminated in the atrocities of 9/11. And do not make the mistake of believing that state sponsored terrorism (the invasion of Iraq being a prime example) is better in anyway than any other form.

So your not proud to be a westerner then? just asking cause it seems to me you sympathise with these people.

Even make it sound ok that they do this?

Would you rather live under muslim rule?

cause thats what it'd be, dictatorship?

make your 4 wives wear a burka?

cut your hand off for thieving, (although thats not a bad thing)

slap your misses for showing any sense of intelligence?

I'll keep my western ideologies thanks.

Cant sympathise with them never will, its rammed down my throat too much and i have my own mind thanks.

How can you even say that, like the hatred wasn't there before?

It again goes back centuries into religion and our ways are better than yours. Whereas a lot of good people are trying to understand that the East will not rest till they rule the world.

[Bazaldo]

No it wasn't.

History is very open to interpretation. You may know of historical events, but this alone doesn't equate to an understanding of history, only the ability to interpret it within the parameters of your own beliefs.

Not just what happened but why it happened. Cause and effect.

[The People's Hero]

Not just what happened but why it happened. Cause and effect.

It's not quite that simple, is it?

[Finnegan]

what?

Since when do all Muslims slap their wives, chop off hands, believe in fascist dictatorships and enforce the wearing of a chadri in public?

[Benji]

You see now Thracian you've put me in a little situation because in principle what you've put in your essay reflects the point I was trying to make earlier, which, generally speaking, means agreeing.

I in no way endorse the kind of party the BNP are or the beliefs that they stand for, but sickeningly you can see why people may vote for them. We are currently at a stage where the big two (debateably three) political parties artificially debate over problems that behind the scenes they support each other on. They are so close in what they support and believe in that they might as well just make a coalition and nit-pick over the fine details in conference. The BNP are completely different and in extreme situations people vote for extremists; look no further than post-Weimar Republic and how Hitler used this to his advantage. So with all the problems people are facing at the moment, whether real (economic crisis) or speculative (immigration), they look for an answer and see only one alternative... far right. Unfortunately there is no inbetween and so those who agree with an extreme party on some key policies are tarred with the racist neo-nazi brush. One thing to be learnt from the list becoming public, as their leader rightly said, is that it isn't just skinheaded oiks that are voting BNP. Well educated and independent individuals believe they are the answer... or at least they are the lesser of the two evils.

It is up to these so called big three to stop holding hands and offer better alternatives to our current problems and democratically make this unwanted party non-existent. However this isn't the way to do it. All major parties will promote liberty, freedom of expression, access to human rights and the rest, so you can't suddenly make an exception to silence a group of people that do not agree with you, it's hypocrasy at its worst. Fair enough the policies that the party represent may mean that exceptions need to be made with jobs such as the police force but then you're not giving those members of the public access to their fundamental rights by restricting who they can support. It is a very hard balance to achieve and while personally I agree with Thracian that it would be wrong to say no member of the BNP is capable of separating private life from his or her line of work, it is going over the top to both do this and then publish all these details and not think something is morally wrong. It's almost as if we're making an exception to what we believe in to deal with people who don't agree

All the list will do is provoke violence and hatred towards a particular group of society, which makes such people just as bad as the group they are condoning and attacking. Again obvious why, if such an injunction as referred to by the BNP does exist, was granted in the first place.

[The People's Hero]

what?

Since when do all Muslims slap their wives, chop off hands, believe in fascist dictatorships and enforce the wearing of a chadri in public?

Since it was easier to adopt an 'us and them' attitude than actually try to develop any understanding of the issues.

[Bazaldo]

what?

Since when do all Muslims slap their wives, chop off hands, believe in fascist dictatorships and enforce the wearing of a chadri in public?

All muslim men are the rulers of the household, what they say goes, the women have no rights whatsoever.

Also its a fact in muslim Countries they chop the hands off thieves.

Stone people to death still for sleeping with other people, only the other week it happened, one of her children tried to protect her and got stoned to death too. Buried upto her neck and stoned.

Middle ages stuff if you ask me

[Bazaldo]

Since it was easier to adopt an 'us and them' attitude than actually try to develop any understanding of the issues.

Thats the thing are these people trying to understand us??

[Benji]

Nah good point, i didn't put British is best (even though we are ) but i wonder why we surrender everything this country has done since our last succesful invasion of 1066, why oh why do we sit here and forget why we have such a very very proud heritage, a heritage that is the envy of the world and we are taken the pi** out of. We all sit there on 11/11 and do our 2 mins silence and remember the fallen. Those generations dead for what we believe in. I think we are too soft in how we present ourselves to the world. We are not this great country anymore, we allow allcomers to openly ridicule us. I know a lot of foreigners who openly admit the country they are from and cheer their own national football team, (which is great for banter by the way) but when they openly admit to me they are here for the ride it really gets to me. They take and take and take. Then there is the middle (couldron) east. One big hellhole. There are a lot of fanatical believers out there. Ones who want to do serious harm to us, its a fact they do. Because we stick up for Kuwait against a totally unprovoked attack from saddam, (ok oil was an issue too) they see it right to fly planes into innocent civillians??

And 7/7 i dont get it myself. Also they Bombed the towers way before any of that shi*.

Thing is they think they are superior, superior beings who are martyrs to the cause.

We harbour them here too.

This is not BNP either just looking out for ones own.

We need to get our sense of pride back

Thraics post was brill.

It's good you have an opinion, that's what it's all about and I don't think anyone on here in their right mind would rather you didn't, they might not agree but that's life. The problem is you generalise about a race in its entirety. Yes there are people that believe terrorist acts will result in a better life for them, but you write as if that's the view of every muslim that enters our country. Unfortunately that's exactly what the BNP does and reflects what I've said above about there being no inbetween. I don't think the current government does enough, but that's not to say kicking everyone out with a non-uk ancestor is the answer. It's all about contribution for me, but the BNP will look merely at skin colour and not whether they offer our country anything.