if you could pick.....

[turkish14]

20 teams to start in a new premier league what teams would you choose...

my 20 are based on size of cities/population, size of stadia, histories of clubs, fanbase and trophies won.

my 20 are....

1) Manchester United

2) Liverpool

3) Arsenal

4) Leeds United

5) Chelsea

6) Newcastle

7) Tottenham Hotspur

8) Aston Villa

9) Everton

10) West Ham United

11) Nottingham Forest

12) Manchester City

13) Wolverhampton Wanderers

14) Sunderland

15) Fulham

16) Leicester City

17) Sheffield Wednnesday

18) Derby County

19) Sheffield United

20) Southampton

Possibles....Bolton/Portsmouth/Middlesborough/Blackburn/West brom/Birmingham/Cardiff/Burnley/C.palace/Covscum/Norwich/Preston

Bit of a random thread but was bored, and its a question thats been bugging me.What would your choices be?

[Bryn]

1 Manchester United

2 Liverpool

3 Arsenal

4 Wolverhampton Wndrs

5 Preston North End

6 Aston Villa

7 Sheffield United

8 Sunderland

9 Everton

10 Burnley

11 Blackburn Rovers

12 Bolton Wanderers

13 West Bromwich Albion

14 Newcastle United

15 Manchester City

16 Derby County

17 Notts County

18 Bristol City

19 Sheffield Wednesday

20 Nottingham Forest

All time league table. We're 25th. Not the 20 teams I personally would associate the most with the top flight, nor the 20 biggest clubs in my opinion, but in terms of points earned in their history that's it. I tried to find the one that was based purely on points earned in the top flight but I couldn't find it, I think we were 21st in that.

[lildave3]

1. Arsenal

2. Aston Villa

3. Chelsea

4. Everton

5. Liverpool

6. Man City

7. Man United

8. Newcastle

9. Tottenham

10. West Ham

11. Derby

12. Leeds

13. Leicester

14. Wolves

15. Notts Forest

16. Sunderland

17. Birmingham

18. Preston

19. Sheffield Wednesday

20. Bolton

Probably.

[GLC]

1) Manchester United

2) Liverpool

3) Arsenal

4) Portsmouth

5) Chelsea

6) Newcastle

7) Tottenham Hotspur

8) Aston Villa

9) Everton

10) West Ham United

11) Nottingham Forest

12) Manchester City

13) Wolverhampton Wanderers

14) Sunderland

15) Fulham

16) Leicester City

17) bolton

18) Derby County

19) reading

20) hinkley

[Finnegan]

1. Arsenal.

2. Chelsea.

3. Man Utd.

4. Liverpool.

5. Newcastle.

6. Forest.

7. Derby.

8. Leicester.

9. Birmingham.

10. Villa.

12. Celtic.

13. Rangers.

14. Aberdeen.

14. Swansea

15. Cardiff.

16. Wrexham.

17. Linfield.

18. Glentoran.

19. Shelbourne.

20. Bohemians.

All prize money, TV rights funds and sponsorship cash to be distributed evenly. Wage cap to be put in place.

[Fosse Boy]

Keep things the way they are, teams deserve their place in the league system based on the way they play at the moment, not any other factors. That's my input.

[Joe.]

1. Man Utd

2. Arsenal

3. Liverpool

4. Chelsea

5. Aston Villa

6. West Brom

7. Leicester City

8. Nottingham Forest

9. Derby County

10. Sheffield Wednesday

11. Crystal Palace

12. Tottenham Hotspur

13. West Ham

14. Wigan Athletic

15. Manchester City

16. Everton

17. Newcastle

18. Portsmouth

19. Fulham

20. Leeds United

[turkish14]

4) Portsmouth

14. Wigan Athletic

[lildave3]

Wigan is a bold call Joseph!

[Uncle Albert]

1. Manchester United

2. Manchester City

3. Liverpool

4. Everton

5. Arsenal

6. Tottenham Hotspur

7. Leicester City

8. Nottingham Forest

9. Newcastle United

10. Leeds

11. Millwall

12. Chelsea

13. Sheffield United

14. Sheffield Wednesday

15. West Ham United

16. Aston Villa

17. Birmingham City

18. Derby County

19. Cardiff

20. Coventry City

I did have Southampton in mine but I have swapped them for Millwall. Good fanbase and European team in this Century so had to really.

[Joe.]

Wigan is a bold call Joseph!

Gotta love a bit of the inoffensive Wigan.

[stevie909]

FC united of manchester

AFC wimbledon

AFC liverpool

(insert othe fan made clubs here)

[GLC]

4) Portsmouth

ok ill change it to stoke and we can send them down!

[Finnegan]

FC united of manchester

AFC wimbledon

AFC liverpool

(insert othe fan made clubs here)

FC Talking of Foxes.

[Ashley]

1. Leicester City

2. Coventry City

3. Nottingham Forest

4. Derby County

5. Sheffield United

6. Sheffield Wednesday

7. Sunderland

8. Newcastle United

9. Norwich City

10. Ipswich Town

11. Birmingham City

12. Aston Villa

13. Everton

14. Liverpool

15. Manchester United

16. Manchester City

17. Arsenal

18. Chelsea

19. Portsmouth

20. Southampton

[JakeShingler]

1) Manchester United

2) Liverpool

3) Millwall

4) Leeds United

5) Chelsea

6) Newcastle

7) Bristol Rovers

8) Aston Villa

9) Everton

10) West Ham United

11) Nottingham Forest

12) Manchester City

13) Wolverhampton Wanderers

14) Luton

15) Swansea

16) Leicester City

17) Covscum

18) Derby County

19) Cardiff

20) Burnley

[Ultra]

1) Manchester United

2) Liverpool

3) Arsenal

4) Chelsea

5) Aston Villa

6) Everton

7) Newcastle

8) Manchester City

9) Sunderland

10) Tottenham

11) West Ham

12) Leicester

13) Wolves

14) Derby

15) Leeds

16) Sheffield Wednesday

17) Middlesbrough

18) Southampton

19) Ipswich

20) Nottingham Forest

[Koke]

1. Manchester United

2. Arsenal

3. Liverpool

4. Chelsea

5. Aston Villa

6. West Bromwich Albion

7. Leeds United

8. Sheffield Wednesday

9. Leicester City

10. Southampton

11. Nottingham Forest

12. Tottenham

13. West Ham

14. Newcastle United

15. Sunderland

16. Derby County

17. Middlesbrough

18. Manchester City

19. Everton

20. Ipswich Town

[Ultra]

1 Manchester United

2 Liverpool

3 Arsenal

4 Wolverhampton Wndrs

5 Preston North End

6 Aston Villa

7 Sheffield United

8 Sunderland

9 Everton

10 Burnley

11 Blackburn Rovers

12 Bolton Wanderers

13 West Bromwich Albion

14 Newcastle United

15 Manchester City

16 Derby County

17 Notts County

18 Bristol City

19 Sheffield Wednesday

20 Nottingham Forest

All time league table. We're 25th. Not the 20 teams I personally would associate the most with the top flight, nor the 20 biggest clubs in my opinion, but in terms of points earned in their history that's it. I tried to find the one that was based purely on points earned in the top flight but I couldn't find it, I think we were 21st in that.

Couldn't believe this.

But according to this site, it's absolutely true.

We're still ahead of some big names, though. Chelsea are 27th, Spurs are 39th, Leeds are 44th and West Ham are 64th.

Oh, and Cov are 68th.

In the all-time Premier League table, we're in 20th spot, though Fulham are about to overtake us..

[Ultra]

This is the all-time table for the top-flight

1 Liverpool

2 Arsenal

3 Everton

4 Manchester United

5 Aston Villa

6 Newcastle United

7 Tottenham Hotspur

8 Chelsea

9 Manchester City

10 Sunderland

11 Blackburn Rovers

12 Sheffield Wednesday

13 West Bromwich Albion

14 Bolton Wanderers

15 Derby County

16 Leeds United

17 Nottingham Forest

18 Middlesbrough

19 Wolverhampton Wndrs

20 Sheffield United

21 West Ham United

22 Birmingham City

23 Burnley

24 Stoke City

25 Leicester City

26 Preston North End

27 Southampton

28 Coventry City

29 Portsmouth

30 Huddersfield Town

In the all-time table for second-tier matches, we're in 2nd place behind Barnsley.

[turkish14]

By the time we hopefully get back to the prem i think sunderland would of overtaken us in the alltime prem league table as there 52 points behind.

[Ultra]

By the time we hopefully get back to the prem i think sunderland would of overtaken us in the alltime prem league table as there 52 points behind.

It depends if they stay up this year.

[turkish14]

I think they will stay up as that sbragia (or watever his name is) has got the confidence back in the players. next season is a different matter though. Hopefully we will be back in the prem in 2010-2011 season so Sunderland wont increase there lead too much.

[Ultra]

Ricky Sbragia is unproven as a manager.

He should keep them up but there are no guarantees, especially this season.