Army Shootings in Northern Ireland.

[Finnegan]

Worrying.

[DB11]

Maybe it was just a random attack if it was a "drive by". Hope so anyway

[Finnegan]

Who "randomly" decides to go shoot up their nearest military facility?

[Scow]

Who "randomly" decides to go shoot up their nearest military facility?

DB11's army.

[Munzie]

Maybe it was just a random attack if it was a "drive by". Hope so anyway

Been watching too many 'gansta' films?

The only drive-by's in NI are Mcdonalds & KFC!

[fox123]

I lived in Northern Ireland 10 Years ago, a place called Castlederg which is in between Omagh (where the bombs went off) and Strabane (which is 80% Catholic) I had so much shit when I was there mainly from, believe it or not protestants.

There was one particular night when I was in the Castlederg village, it was the marching season - the Orange order had just gathered with there British and English flags, about to walk and antagonise the Catholic community of the village... they did there walk, had a few beers, and I was there with my Girlfriend at the time... come 11pm at night when the protestants had done their March, downed a few beers and got high on the local manure, they decided to turn on me because I was English... It ended up I had about 15 of the fuckers following me round the village calling me an English willy puller, a English piece of shit, had death threats and all sorts of bollocks that night... something I would liken to strong racist abuse - luckily my gf's family (at the time) were well known in the Village so I missed a good beating...

Unless you're there, you assume it's Catholic v Protestant - that isn't the case, from what I saw the Protestants were the fucking antagonising wankers that caused alot of unneeded crap.

[Finnegan]

Hah, yes actually, I know a lad from Durham I was working with at GAME and his family had gone to Northern Ireland when he was a kid. I'd recognised his accent as Belfast and had called him Irish and he corrected me.

We got talking and he asked about my accent and said had I adopted the English accent intentionally to fit in. I thought about it and laughed a little and said no the Welsh valleys accent had just died with time and he said that he'd almost forced himself to sound Northern Irish when he went there because he actually got a hell of a lot of stick from both sects of the community.

Strikes me as funny, really. How can the Unionists be so feverently anti-English yet so passionately Brittish?

Odd. It's almost like they don't really want to be associated with London, they just don't want the republicans to "win."

[fox123]

Yet surprisingly when you go down South, Dublin for example, the folk there are so warm and welcoming...it's like a totally different Country that just want to take your money off you.

If you goto Portrush (Northern/North of Ireland) there is a place called Kellys that everyone goes too during the summer, and there are organised fights on the beach there (again protestants).

[Finnegan]

Dublin's a tourist attraction.

The Irish are like the Welsh, essentially quite laid back and fairly casual people so I would imagine you're going to encounter friendly types most of the way around the rural areas.

Anyone who wants to convince themselves they're 100% welcoming, mind, should take a trip round the Gaeltacht regions of the West Coast. You'll find it far more insular and native English will probably come back with the same complaints as from a trip round Y Fro Gymraeg "they all bloody started speaking foreign" .

[Head Honcho]

Yet surprisingly when you go down South, Dublin for example, the folk there are so warm and welcoming...it's like a totally different Country that just want to take your money off you.

If you goto Portrush (Northern/North of Ireland) there is a place called Kellys that everyone goes too during the summer, and there are organised fights on the beach there (again protestants).

Brilliant club

[fox123]

Brilliant club

I loved Kellys when I was there, the atmosphere prior to the clubbing was very strange, though once the shot was out the way and the clubbing started haappening...what a fucking night...beats Belfast clubs hands down

[Tevez]

Fucking Politics. Bastards.

[Simi]

Didn't someone on here mention the other day that the IRA were still considered a bigger threat than Al Quaeda?

[Thracian]

Maybe it was just a random attack if it was a "drive by". Hope so anyway

I don't think so...

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/21/20090308/tuk-r...rs-6323e80.html

[Ultra]

Although it's deeply distressing for the families of the two murdered soldiers, they're apparently the first to be murdered in Northern Ireland for twelve years.

Given the incidents that took place on a weekly, even daily, basis there during the 70s and 80s, the province has moved on a long way since then.

And apart from a few diehards on both sides, there's no desire among the wider community to return to those dark days.

[Finnegan]

Didn't someone on here mention the other day that the IRA were still considered a bigger threat than Al Quaeda?

Although it's deeply distressing for the families of the two murdered soldiers, they're apparently the first to be murdered in Northern Ireland for twelve years.

Given the incidents that took place on a weekly, even daily, basis there during the 70s and 80s, the province has moved on a long way since then.

And apart from a few diehards on both sides, there's no desire among the wider community to return to those dark days.

Exactly. I'm sure if you live in Ulster it's a different story but I don't really think the days of the P/RIRA being the biggest terrorist threat to the UK are still on us.

[MPH]

Hah, yes actually, I know a lad from Durham I was working with at GAME and his family had gone to Northern Ireland when he was a kid. I'd recognised his accent as Belfast and had called him Irish and he corrected me.

We got talking and he asked about my accent and said had I adopted the English accent intentionally to fit in. I thought about it and laughed a little and said no the Welsh valleys accent had just died with time and he said that he'd almost forced himself to sound Northern Irish when he went there because he actually got a hell of a lot of stick from both sects of the community.

Strikes me as funny, really. How can the Unionists be so feverently anti-English yet so passionately Brittish?

Odd. It's almost like they don't really want to be associated with London, they just don't want the republicans to "win."

Must of visited Belfast 15 times over the last 7-8 years and i can honestly say i have never had a single bit of trouble from a protestant only ever been spoken bad at by Catholic people.

but reading what has already been written in this thread ..it just goes to show that it isnt as clear cut as the catholics hating the english and the protestants hating the english. so to me there can only be one conclusion..

people from both sides consider hatred and intolerance as an acceptable way of life...

[Thracian]

Although it's deeply distressing for the families of the two murdered soldiers, they're apparently the first to be murdered in Northern Ireland for twelve years.

Given the incidents that took place on a weekly, even daily, basis there during the 70s and 80s, the province has moved on a long way since then.

And apart from a few diehards on both sides, there's no desire among the wider community to return to those dark days.

So it would seem...

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/21/20090309/tuk-r...es-6323e80.html

[Simi]

Exactly. I'm sure if you live in Ulster it's a different story but I don't really think the days of the P/RIRA being the biggest terrorist threat to the UK are still on us.

I for one will be looking forward to hearing the "**** the Pope and the IRA" chants on Saturday.

<_<

[Steven]

Why haven't we asked NATO for support to carpet bomb Dublin yet?

[Dr The Singh]

Why haven't we asked NATO for support to carpet bomb Dublin yet?

Is there any oil or AL Queda in Dublin OR maybe our master the US will just turn a blind eye to it????

[Steven]

Is there any oil or AL Queda in Dublin OR maybe our master the US will just turn a blind eye to it????

I was being a little flippant and my sympathies go to the soldiers' families. However the point is well made when what can the justicfication be for spending billions and killing millions in foreign lands if you are not prepared to take the same line when these acts happen on your own doorstep. <_<

[Munzie]

Why haven't we asked NATO for support to carpet bomb Dublin yet?

Don't bomb Temple Bar There's no where better to spend a small fortune (especially at current exchange rates) on proper pints of Guinness

[Finnegan]

Must of visited Belfast 15 times over the last 7-8 years and i can honestly say i have never had a single bit of trouble from a protestant only ever been spoken bad at by Catholic people.

1. You went as a tourist. We're talking about people who have lived there.

2. You'd expect a degree of disdain from the Republicans. That isn't weird, to be honest, I think it's somewhat more eccentric to receive that level of hate from a group of people literally fighting to remain associated with you.

Why haven't we asked NATO for support to carpet bomb Dublin yet?

Just... satisfy my curiosity, you are joking, right?

[Steven]

1. You went as a tourist. We're talking about people who have lived there.

2. You'd expect a degree of disdain from the Republicans. That isn't weird, to be honest, I think it's somewhat more eccentric to receive that level of hate from a group of people literally fighting to remain associated with you.

Just... satisfy my curiosity, you are joking, right?

Er yes I am kidding , but if you thought that attacking Afghanistan or Iraq was a proportionate response to the events of 11/9 then a lot of hand wringing by the Government now displays both racism and hypocrisy. <_<