Who you all voting for?

[Thracian]

So who you voting for?

Given the absence of Jon The Hat or The Singh as an option there's not much of a choice.

In fact, of four alternatives, none of them truly or even nearly represent my views.

So much for democracy and the chance to vote black, blue, red or green when your favourite colour is orange.

I'm reminded of why I've not voted for years.

[Ultra]

If the BNP didn't have its ridiculous plan to encourage repatriation of immigrants as one of its fundamental principles then it would be a lot more tempting to the electorate.

But don't ask me to decide whether anti-black discrimination is better or worse than anti-white discrimination because neither is in in the least acceptable to me.

And right now the only party in any position to practice racism effectively is Labour and you've only got to observe the changes in our society to realise how amazingly well they've performed in that way. They don't even hide their racism from anyone prepared to open their eyes.

I have to concede, you don't believe in tainting a good rant with any shred of evidence to back it up.

[Edmund]

If the BNP didn't have its ridiculous plan to encourage repatriation of immigrants as one of its fundamental principles then it would be a lot more tempting to the electorate.

But don't ask me to decide whether anti-black discrimination is better or worse than anti-white discrimination because neither is in in the least acceptable to me.

And right now the only party in any position to practice racism effectively is Labour and you've only got to observe the changes in our society to realise how amazingly well they've performed in that way. They don't even hide their racism from anyone prepared to open their eyes.

I don't think it's a question of which one is worst than the other, it's just that the bnp are racist and labour aern't (well not openly anyway).

In fact, of four alternatives, none of them truly or even nerly represent my views.

So much for democracy and the chance to vote black, blue, red or green when your favourite colour is orange.

I'm reminded of why I've not voted for years.

Totally agree.

[Guest Mee-9]

To be honest, I have more intrest in who's going to win britains got talent, than the European elections.

That shows my faith in Politics and the government.

[Fosse Boy]

To be honest, I have more intrest in who's going to win britains got talent, than the European elections.

Good for you. <_<

[Thracian]

I have to concede, you don't believe in tainting a good rant with any shred of evidence to back it up.

Are all Left-wingers in denial as part of their psychological make-up?

The latest evidence, absolutely clear to see, is in the decision of police chiefs in the West Midlands to increase the proportion of new recruits from black of minoriy ethnic groups to 12% and to increase the number of women to 42%. The targets are also to increase by 2 per cent each year until 2012.

None of this has anything to do with selection on merit.

Forces across the country were ordered by the government to recruit ethnic minority officers in direct proportion to the make-up of their community.

With the immigration gates remaining wide open - despite the lengthening queues of jobless - and the proportions referred to increasing, it is abundantly clear that white applicants will and are being discriminated against.

How much clearer evidence do you want? And, seeing as it is your own party's doing, then I'm quite sure you well aware of policy.

Imagine you are a young, white applicant and consider how fair it is that his chances of a job are reduced because of this blatant bias.

We are all expected to treat people equally and on merit but Labour blatantly ensures that some are treated "more equal than others". While also ensuring that the percentage of white people in the overall population is steadily eroded therefore ensuring the need for continued ehtnic "correction".

Funny I never hear Labour politicians - in the interests of balancing their equality principles in a global context - arguing that more whites should be encouraged to settle and be given jobs and positions of power or responsibility in Africa or the Middle East.

No, the entire thrust of their attack is anti-white and specifically anti-white male (women now being a newly protected and advantaged species under the Harriet Harperson theory of social correctness).

And that at a time when so many white men are struggling to find work and opportunity anywhere and when their fathers are also losing their jobs or being subject to short time working.

[Thracian]

I don't think it's a question of which one is worst than the other, it's just that the bnp are racist and labour aern't (well not openly anyway).

In fact it's the BNP who might theoretically wish to enforce an arguably racist policy but Labour who have actually set one in motion.

Whether you choose to see it or acknowledge it is quite another matter.

[Finnegan]

Given the absence of Jon The Hat or The Singh as an option there's not much of a choice.

I knew you'd vote Finners!

[Thracian]

To be honest, I have more intrest in who's going to win britains got talent, than the European elections.

That shows my faith in Politics and the government.

You reap what you sow I suppose.

And while you plant the seeds of indifference and disinterest, all sorts of people with vested interests in wresting positions of power in this land and in Europe diligently go about their work.

And while you may opt out of having anything to do with that process, you will certainly be subject to the consequences.

[Thracian]

I knew you'd vote Finners!

:D Despite your misgivings I still expect you to line up with Ultra's lot. Old habits die hard among folk from the Valleys.

[Finnegan]

:D Despite your misgivings I still expect you to line up with Ultra's lot. Old habits die hard among folk from the Valleys.

Meh. I'm a naive idealist. You'd stand to lose nothing in my world, your life situation's not miles from mine and we tend to serve our own despite our best intentions. Nobody on here earns enough to stand to lose much walking in a Finner wonderland.

Until, yanno, reality kicks in.

[Thracian]

Meh. I'm a naive idealist. You'd stand to lose nothing in my world, your life situation's not miles from mine and we tend to serve our own despite our best intentions. Nobody on here earns enough to stand to lose much walking in a Finner wonderland.

Until, yanno, reality kicks in.

:D I'd doubt that "your world" would be worse than the political world we've got. Perhaps you should form a "Finner Wonderworld" party.

[Jon the Hat]

Common sense. Not all parties have the same Ethos. This for me is the complete opposite to the approach of Labour over the last 12 years.

In fact - read all four if you have time.

[Fosse Boy]

I'm still not sure who to vote for. Think it'll be one of the minor parties in the European elections though. Probably be Lib Dems in the council elections...

[Thracian]

Common sense. Not all parties have the same Ethos. This for me is the complete opposite to the approach of Labour over the last 12 years.

In fact - read all four if you have time.

Reading that it's quite tempting to give Cameron a chance.

At least he sounds as if he wants to treat all people decently and with respect instead of coming across as the misguided, financially and morally irresponsible, deceptive, corrupt, bullying, racist, sexist, power-mad, social experimentalists that make up the character the modern Labour Party under the guidance of their control freak leader.

Whether he'll be committed enough and radical enough to reverse the awful government of this administration I really don't know.

There is nothing said about closing the doors of this country until we are seen to be dramatically shortening the jobless queues thus reducing demand on an already overstretched welfare system, little or nothing about protecting and re-invigorating British industry, little said about restoring our eonomic credibility and nothing about seeing that above basic rewards in British society go to people who earn them and deserve them.

Proper education though - including genuine choices - makes a worthwhile start and so does ridding ourselves of the nanny state culture.

[stez]

well, i've received propaganda from the tories and ukfirst party (whoever they are) i eagerly await the info from labour, bnp and the lib dems.....but they tend not to think it's worth informing anyone of anything round here, so i won't hold my breath.

[Jon the Hat]

Whether he'll be committed enough and radical enough to reverse the awful government of this administration I really don't know.

I take a lot of encouragement from the frankly ruthless approach he has taken to the Expenses Scandal. It is an huge opportunity and one he is not letting pass him by. He is clearing out some old school Tory MP's who he doesn't need. He is opening debate on a wide range of issues including parliamentary reform and our approach to Europe. He is opening the doors of the Conservative party to those who might otherwise run as independents, thus bringing in some new ideas.

All good, intelligent stuff, and the kind of wholesale change that we need to see to break from the mes Labour are leaving behind. We cannot fix it all, so we need to just ditch a lot of it.

[Finnegan]

Can we all agree that, regardless of your politics, David Cameron has a really, really slappable face?

[Jon the Hat]

Can we all agree that, regardless of your politics, David Cameron has a really, really slappable face?

What do you want to do to Gordon? That is the question.

[Thracian]

well, i've received propaganda from the tories and ukfirst party (whoever they are) i eagerly await the info from labour, bnp and the lib dems.....but they tend not to think it's worth informing anyone of anything round here, so i won't hold my breath.

Why not just head for their websites. You get a lot more than just mailshot titbits.

http://bnp.org.uk/

http://www.libdems.org.uk/

http://www.labour.org.uk/

[Babylon]

Stunning just how much momentum the UK Independence Party and BNP have gotten over the past few years.

Purely on the basis that they actually stand for something, no matter how wrong/right that might be.

I honestly couldn't tell you what Labour the Conservatives or the Lib Dems Stand for. The positions they take only ever seem to be the complete opposite of who's in charge or what's flavour of the month.

If they took a stand, said this is what we stand for, this is what we believe is right... I might be inclined to vote for one of them.

[Jon the Hat]

Purely on the basis that they actually stand for something, no matter how wrong/right that might be.

I honestly couldn't tell you what Labour the Conservatives or the Lib Dems Stand for. The positions they take only ever seem to be the complete opposite of who's in charge or what's flavour of the month.

If they took a stand, said this is what we stand for, this is what we believe is right... I might be inclined to vote for one of them.

Labour do not stand for anything. They know they are toast and are merely clinging onto their pay packets for as long as possible while failing to govern.

For a Tory vision read the link I posted above (previous page). text of a Speech David Cameron gave to the Open University this morning.

[Finnegan]

What do you want to do to Gordon? That is the question.

Gordon Brown just inspires pity, really. He's such a pathetic bloke.

Cameron inspires rage.

[Jon the Hat]

Gordon Brown just inspires pity, really. He's such a pathetic bloke.

Cameron inspires rage.

They have the opposite affect on me. Brown has had 12 years of influence in the one of the most profligate governments in history and have done little but saddle us with debt and unsustainable running costs.

[Finnegan]

But he's just no way near as sleazey, smug or creepy.